Alright, so call me insane, batshit crazy..

[walldude]

But I swear, that over the past 8 years some really serious shit went down. I can't quite recall what any of it was but I think it might have been seriously fucked up.

Of course what do I know, for all I know everything I have heard could all be true.

The economy is just "hitting a rough patch".

The war is going great! The surge is working!

Our health care system is the best in the world.

Illegal Immigrants are ruining our country and stealing our jobs!

We're going to MARS! :rofl:


So you have two choices, you can vote for the Democratic candidate, whoever it is and pray to god we get back on the right track. Or you can piss and moan and complain about "the other candidate" or even better, "the other candidates supporters", and swear up and down that they are so evil that you would never vote for them in a million years, and wake up next year in Naziville, satisfied and smug in the fact that you fucked us all...

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. Wake up in Naziville?

Ever think about how many ways the government has you completely hemmed in right now?

They've got a full blown genocide going on in Iraq for the last 5 years & nobody in this country cares.

[walldude]

4. Yes I do... and I can only imagine what they'll think

they can get away with if they get voted in again. You get McCain you get all the neo-con baggage that goes with him. I for one am not prepared to deal with 4 or 8 more years without health insurance for my family.

[KAZ]

2. Hey, insane, batshit, crazy... You're right.

[KAZ]

3. Forgot to mention. REC!

[Warren DeMontague]

5. What have you got against Mars?

No, I'm serious. We piss away money on a lot of stupid shit- The Drug War, the Military-Industrial Complex, to name a couple- but NASA isn't one of those things. They get a pittance, and the investments we put in there (but! but! ---- yes, even into manned space exploration) pay off like gangbusters.

Going to Mars? We're already there. Some folks at JPL designed two scrappy little rovers that were supposed to survive a fucking month on the surface. They've been out there doing science for over four fucking YEARS. As far as I'm concerned, the people at JPL who pulled this thing off deserve some kind of Nobel Prize.

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/overview/


And one day, humans will follow. It is my great hope that I live to see that day.

[walldude]

6. Dude.. chill out..

You are talking to a guy from a NASA family. My grandfather worked on the moon landing, he was instrumental in designing the moon "buggy". I couldn't agree with you more. I posted it along with all the other lies, the only reason I put the smiley there was because it was the most outrageous lie they told. The minds running the Bush administration couldn't put together a single intelligent thought let alone enough to think highly of space exploration(unless there's money in it for them) to finance it. I'm the first in line to unite and explore space. Hope I see it in my lifetime.

[Warren DeMontague]

8. Right on. Sorry if I overreacted.

:hi:

Certainly there hasn't been a hell of a lot of respect for science from the flat-Earthers in the Bush Administration.

[eppur_se_muova]

11. So, you heard about the tight budget for the Mars rovers?

No sooner had news hit the web that NASA had cut funding to the Mars Exploratory Rovers (MER), NASA took a huge U-turn and voided the letter that was sent to MER mission scientists. Apparently both Spirit and Opportunity can continue to roll around the Mars landscape as if nothing had ever happened; in fact the two robots will probably be unaware of the drama that unfolded here on Earth in the last 24 hours. Talk about a storm in a teacup…

more: http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/25/nasa-u-turn-over-mars-rover-funding/

[calimary]

7. "They hate us for our freedom!" One of my alltime faves.

"We've GOT to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here!"

"When the Iraqis stand up, we'll stand down!"

"We're making progress in Iraq!"

"It's yer money!"

I've got lots of these. Unfortunately, so do they.

[Splinter Cell]

9. Hillary is no better then McCain

So this whole "let's support WHOEVER the nominee is" vibe is BS. She doesn't stand for my values as a progressive, and I won't vote for her. It's that simple.

[PetraPooh]

10. Ditto.