WOAH NELLY Michael Sneed in the Chicago Sun-Times: Is Hillary broke?

[wndycty]

Is Hillary broke?

March 28, 2008


BY MICHAEL SNEED Sun-Times Columnist

Scoop du jour? Sneed hears major money problems in the Clinton camp may soon become a coroner knocking on her campaign door.

• To wit: Word is the cash feeding into Hillary Clinton's campaign coffers has not only slowed down in a big way, undisclosed campaign debts that have yet to be made public could signal the end and have insiders biting their nails.

• Translation: "It won't necessarily be politics which may force her out of the race," said a top Dem source. "There is no hanky panky going on, but Hillary needs to raise money to stay alive . . . and word is she may not be able to climb out of the money hole."

• The buckshot: "I think it's safe to say Hillary's not going to dip into her pocket again," the source added. "And if her employees start taking pay cuts while chasing the dream . . . it's usually the beginning of the body becoming totally cold."
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http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/865494,CST-NWS-SNEED28.article

At link there is also an item about the possibility of Edwards endorsing Hillary

[democrattotheend]

1. I think they are just lowballing expectations for the quarter

I actually think she might outraise Obama for March. Obama himself hinted that his fundraising has slowed this month. I'm worried about it.

[dkf]

4. Obama said that? Where?

[democrattotheend]

23. Here

http://www.knx1070.com/pages/1869700.php?

``February was pretty exceptional,'' Obama told reporters in Oregon, adding that the campaign surprised even itself with the level of Internet fundraising. ``I don't think we would expect to sustain that pace because we don't have a primary every week.''

If Obama supporters here haven't given this month and are able to I recommend it. You can use my page if you want: http://my.barackobama.com/page/outreach/view/main/democrattotheend

[Barack_America]

14. Hard to imagine that is the case...

Obama hit one million donors at the end of February. He is now over TWO MILLION. That is one million donors in one month alone. If the average donation drops to $25 dollars (it was $100), that's still $25 million dollars.

He'll be fine.

Money is a big part of his strategy right now. It's one of the reasons he has expanded his campaigning to IN and NC, thus forcing Clinton, who is broke, to follow suit. It's attrition.

[democrattotheend]

25. I thought the counter was broken

And that it was just updating automatically. Has the campaign posted anything on the blog about 2 million donors? If not, I think the counter might just be broken...they haven't been hyping it.

[Barack_America]

31. Maybe...

But I was watching the counter and it seemed to update sporadically.

That is always a possibility though. Boo.

He'll still be fine. It won't be $55 million again, but he'll still out-raise her. And it really isn't that surprising, given that there's only one contest for much of the month, which sends the psychological impression that he might not *need* that much money.

[Adelante]

35. That's what I read, too, about the counter and 2M

I also think it would be unrealistic to expect a duplication of February in terms of amount raised. That was a very unique month.

[Barack_America]

50. There were so many contests that it had an urgency...

...that we just don't have now.

My estimate is around 25-30 million with Hillary coming in with around half of that.

[redqueen]

41. Thanks for mentioning that... you inspired me to donate just now.

:hi:

[democrattotheend]

46. Good, that was my intention

I donated twice this month because I was worried. I have a fundraising page if anyone wants to use it: http://my.barackobama.com/page/outreach/view/main/democrattotheend

[Perky]

2. And Edward endorement apparntly would hurt her a lot in North Carolina

according the the last poll I saw from PPP

[frogcycle]

5. dd edwrds actly endor hr?

:)

[Kittycat]

10. no

[frogcycle]

18. whers yr snse of hmr?

yu shld hve wrtn "Nt tht I knw of"

:)

[CreekDog]

38. that prty fnny!

:rofl:

[dkf]

3. Looks like she may not get her $5 million back...

unless Mark Penn gives her a discount :evilgrin:

[Barack_America]

16. Seems like she HAS to pay herself back.

If she doesn't, wouldn't it then default to a "donation", which would be a definite campaign finance no-no?

[dkf]

26. I think candidates are allowed to self finance.

Witness Mitt Romney...

[Barack_America]

29. Hmmm...

Yeah, I guess his contributions definitely weren't loans, were they?

That is some kind of fucked up.

Thanks for pointing that out.

ETA: So why the hell is she going through the charade of charging herself interest, if making it a loan isn't really a necessity?

[dkf]

32. She wants it to be a loan so she can get her $ back.

But if there aren't enough donations what can she do?

And she raided her Senatorial account too.

Good think Bill made a ton of $ in speaking fees. They are going to need it.

[democrattotheend]

34. No. She has the option to forgive the loan.

[AllentownJake]

45. She can repay her loan

From GE funds if she isn't the nominee. Trust me she's hedged herself for this.

[Shae]

47. Not sure how that works

I read somewhere that she didn't have to repay herself,
I think that's the case.

[MadBadger]

Maybe its cuz her donors would rather blackmail Nancy Pelosi than give Money to Her

I know, they are probably maxed out.

[Adelante]

6. Edwards gossip item

Word is former Dem presidential hopeful John Edwards is now leaning toward endorsing Hillary . . . but it's still a wait and see.

• Translation: Sneed hears Edwards' wife, cancer survivor Elizabeth Edwards, does NOT favor Barack Obama's candidacy . . . but NOT because of racism. "She feels her husband should have been the man in the center of the presidential sweepstakes, rather than Obama," a source said.

[TwilightGardener]

8. So...Elizabeth is bitter, is that it? I hope not.

[Yael]

11. This is nothing more than Taylor Marsh gossip central

*yawn*

[Adelante]

39. So they say, doggie

But who knows? It's gossip.

[cali]

17. It's been obvious for quite a while that both Edwards

resent the hell out of Obama and believe he "stole" JE's "rightful" place as the anti-Hillary. I've long thought that JE will endorse Clinton for that very reason. I've hardly forgotten Elizabeth's nasty litle attack on Michelle.

[TwilightGardener]

24. What did she say about Michelle? I must have missed that.

[Yael]

28. Because it never happened.

Cali is an Edwards-antagonist from way back.

[BeyondGeography]

30. They still want the White House and Barack would end the dream for them forever

That's the be all and end all of their "confusion" about endorsing.

[TwilightGardener]

44. But, since Barack is the likely nominee, what is to be gained by endorsing

the almost-certain loser, when the winner can offer you a cabinet post? I am almost certain Obama either will offer, or already has offered Edwards something good. He's a talented guy. Why go down with a sinking ship out of what sounds like spite?

[redqueen]

42. I hope that's not the case.

Such a silly reason to determine support. *sigh*

[Yael]

7. I find this VERY hard to swallow

From that link:

Sneed hears Edwards' wife, cancer survivor Elizabeth Edwards, does NOT favor Barack Obama's candidacy . . . but NOT because of racism. "She feels her husband should have been the man in the center of the presidential sweepstakes, rather than Obama," a source said.

Elizabeth Edwards is not that shallow.

This reads like something Taylor Marsh would 'speculate' about (read: print as fact)

[Coexist]

9. I don't believe that for a SECOND about Elizabeth Edwards.

[Renew Deal]

15. It doesn't sound like her

But who knows. If she truly believes that, she's doesn't understand politics. Edwards would have gotten run over by Hillary. That's why he got run over by Obama in Iowa and in general. Obama isn't winning because he's the Hillary alternative. He's winning because he did what it takes to win.

[wndycty]

19. Does she still post on DU?

:kick:

[Renew Deal]

20. Haven't seen her in a while

But I'm sure she still has an ID.

[frogcycle]

43. makes sense to me

she believed in him then and believes in him now

I don't "favor" the candidacy of either of the current contenders. Does not mean I won't be glad if/when one of them is inaugurated, but I don't philosophically "favor" the fact that they are all we are left with. It has nothing to do with being shallow; it has to do with believing I was right then in my opinion of what was best for the country, and nothing has disproved that

[Tarheel_Dem]

12. I don't believe this....

This is just a "free" call to action (reported as "news") to her supporters. She had her best month when supporters found out she'd loaned money to the campaign. This is just more free advertising for her.

[indio55555]

13. It's becuase.

She doesn't menton.... go to www.H*L*A*YC*I**N.com anymore.

[quantass]

21. what a waste of money

[4themind]

22. Leaking this $$ woe problem out there through channels like this...

is possibly a strategy (if history is any guide) to garner more donations,without seeming desperate enough to further draw those who want her to drop out. I wouldn't be surprised and it would benifit her, if this plan garners her more money, like right after super tuesday, it plays into their hands

[TwilightGardener]

27. Who the hell would donate now? You'd have to be a true believer, or

a poor investor.

[meow mix]

36. exactly.. a LOT of people would be questioning the wisdom of spending on her now.

i bet shes so broke it aint funny, because the daily expeditures are huge.

[my3boyz]

37. The Clinton supporters on this board! LOL LOL

[wndycty]

33. That only works once

:kick:

[DrFunkenstein]

40. Out of Money and Out of Time. Buh-Bye.

She may not care about destroying the party, but it looks like she doesn't have enough big donor thugs like the ones blackmailing Pelosi to stay afloat.

[Shae]

48. She can always make herself another loan.

That's what I would do if I were out of money, and sure I was gonna win.

[wndycty]

49. Kick

:kick: