Yay! More Clinton Pandering to John McCain: Bill Clinton Calls him a Moderate

[MadBadger]

Does Bill Clinton not understand that we are trying to paint him as a third term of Bush? Instead, Bill Clinton paints him as a moderate. Does Bill want to win the Independent vote?

Clinton Praises "Moderate" McCain
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ABC's Z. Byron Wolf Reports: At a stop in rural Pennsylvania, over winding roads and through rolling hills in small Lewistown, PA, where people lined the streets to watch his motorcade approach, former President Bill Clinton had high praise for the man who has clinched the nomination for the other party.

Mr. Clinton said all three major candidates remaining in the race are talented and special people.

He did not go into detail on Sen. Barack Obama, the Illinois Senator still locked in political combat with Sen. Clinton's wife for the Democratic nomination. Their next battle takes place next month in Pennsylvania.

But McCain, who Mr. Clinton said is a "moderate", "has given about all you can give for this country without dyin' for it."

He said McCain was on the right side of issues like being against torture of enemy combatants and global warming, which "just about crosses the bridge for them (Republicans)."

The praise from Clinton comes as McCain, with the Republican nomination locked up and trying to rebrand his Maverick label, has tried to distance himself from President Bush, most notably on foreign policy. In a speech this week McCain talked about the need for more diplomacy.

But Clinton told the audience in the Lewistown High School auditorium - less partisan than his events in more populated areas if the man in the Huckabee shirt that Clinton pointed out is any indication - that the race should not be about the past, it is about who is going to do more for the country in the future. And that person, he said, is his wife Hillary.


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/03/clinton-praises.html


Oh, and didnt Bill hear, McCain isnt against torture anymore.

[TwilightGardener]

1. Why doesn't Bill just ask McCain to let him be VP? Honest to God, somebody muzzle the Dawg.

[jasmine621]

21. Don't you folks understand that calling McCain a moderate keeps many

conservatives from voting for him? They will just stay home. Bill was always a smarter politician than rest out here. Get a grip and take the hate blinders off. The more the Clintons praise McCain, the more RW nuts will dislike him in the fall.

[TwilightGardener]

24. Then why does McCain have a video of Clinton's kind words about him

on his website, if Dawg's words are so damaging? Please. We all know what he's up to. He's making sure McCain wins.

[JerseygirlCT]

49. And encourages Democrats on the fence to consider

McCain. It's not a winner. Clinton just doesn't care what happens short of his wife getting the nomination.

[Ichingcarpenter]

56. It also confuses independent moderates who may now vote for McCain now

because of Bill's lie that McCain is a moderate.

[jakem]

2. It alsmost seems like the CLintons have something to gain personally by promoting McCain....

I'm ju$t $ayin'


:wtf:

[easy_b94]

3. Ok I see what is going on now...

They are running for 2012.

[jakem]

4. ding ding ding! WINNER!

[Yael]

5. More McCain love out of Camp Clinton while Obama is demolishing Bill's economic legacy

:woohoo:

[niceypoo]

26. More smearing from Obama....

...now he smears the Clinton economic miracle

Obama the smear artist

[TwilightGardener]

33. I thought Bill said the candidates should put their helmets and pads on--

you need to suit up, if you want to play football, right? Because you shouldn't play, if you don't want to get tackled! Why the whining?

[redqueen]

35. The Clinton "economic miracle"?

Really?

His tax policies were more fair than the other side's, but geez Louise... let's not get carried away.

[Yael]

65. "Economic miracle"

The tech bubble and the repeal of Glass-Stegall is an "economic miracle"?

:rofl:

I think I just peed myself a little. :blush:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

73. McCain seems happy to have Bill's endorsement

he has a video of Bill Clinton on his campaign 2008 website,
upper right hand corner.

When you go to that page, the video starts automatically.

[blm]

6. Wake up to the fact that Bill Clinton was BushInc's 4th and 5th term, and Bush2 is 6th and 7th.

The Global Fascism that drove the 80s was almost fully revealed in IranContra and BCCI investigations so BushInc needed a Dem in the WH to protect their secrecy and privilege on those many outstanding matters.

Hillary was supposed to be the 8th term for BushInc to coverup for Bush2 the way Bill did for Poppy.

[niceypoo]

28. 8 years of peace and prosperity...

...must be destroyed by Obama and his scorched earth hate campaign

Unity my ass...

[redqueen]

40. You can't "destroy" history. You can try to educate people

about their misconceptions, and make some corrections that are long past due. And yes, most of those corrections are of right-wing malfeasance... but some were things that Bill supported too.

[cali]

45. put your big girl

pullup panties on and stop whining. Hilly wanted to play kitchen sink politics. Now she and you hillbots better get used to it. Tough shit for you that Obama's not just going to take her lying ass attacks.

[blm]

75. 5 1/2 YEARS OF INVESTIGATIONS into BushInc, swept under the rug by Bill Clinton.

What do you think REALLY led to even the possibility of a Bush planning their return to the WH throughout the 90s?

[Yael]

78. We are in 8 years of peace and prosperity?

Are you sure that you are on the right board?

[Shae]

77. Maybe.

If you don't count Reagan.
Don't you think GHWBush was running things behind the scenes?
Especially in Reagan's more doddering days.

[blm]

79. I DID count Reagan - THREE terms for Reagan-Reagan-Bush. Clinton was 4 and 5

IranContra, Iraqgate, BCCI, CIA drugrunning were Poppy Bush's doings, while Reagan busied himself with USSR.

[zulchzulu]

7. Clue# 1,289,567,923 that you trust Bill Clinton at your peril

I worked the streets for Bill in 1992 and was betrayed by 1994.

Trust Bill Clinton at your peril.

If you look at him historically, he would take Newt's playbook and twiddle with it a tad and then pass the legislation. That's about as close as you'll get to being a DINO.

[Ichingcarpenter]

8. "Right on the issues of torture"........... Excuse me Bill?

McCain voted for torture.. you LIAR..

I don't care what he says about torture

HE FRICKING VOTED FOR TORTURE....... TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH....AND HAS A ZERO
RATING ON THE ENVIRONMENT!!!! And you call that a moderate.....
FUCK YOU BILL



I LOVE YOUR NEW UNDERWEAR!!!!!

[Ichingcarpenter]

9. Nominated and kicked n/t

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

10. This post makes it clear:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5289051&mesg_id=5291428

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. Reprinted here on his ZERO rating as a moderate -Thanks Forkboy

Naral rating - 0%

"If I am fortunate enough to be elected as the next President of the United States, I pledge to you to be a loyal and unswerving friend of the right to life movement."

"I’m proud that we have Justice Alito and Roberts on the United States Supreme Court. I’m very proud to have played a very small role in making that happen."

"I do not support Roe v. Wade. I think it should be overturned."

2007 In 2007 NARAL Pro-Choice America gave Senator McCain a grade of 0.

2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 0 percent in 2006.

2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Planned Parenthood 0 percent in 2006.

2005-2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Family Planning & Reproductive Health Association 0 percent in 2005-2006.

2005-2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Right to Life Committee 75 percent in 2005-2006.

2005 Senator McCain supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 0 percent in 2005.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 0 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Right to Life Committee 82 percent in 2003-2004.

2003 Senator McCain supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 0 percent in 2003.

2001-2002 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Right to Life Committee 33 percent in 2001-2002.

2001 Senator McCain supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 0 percent in 2001.

2001 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Planned Parenthood 0 percent in 2001.

2000 Senator McCain supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 0 percent in 2000.

1999-2002 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Family Planning & Reproductive Health Association 0 percent in 1999-2002.

1999-2000 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Right to Life Committee 66 percent in 1999-2000.

1999 Senator McCain supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 0 percent in 1999.

1999 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Right to Life Committee 60 percent in 1999.

1999 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Planned Parenthood 0 percent in 1999.

1998 Senator McCain supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 10 percent in 1998.

1997-1998 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Right to Life Committee 80 percent in 1997-1998.

1997 Senator McCain supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 5 percent in 1997.

1997 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Right to Life Committee 75 percent in 1997.

1996-2003 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Planned Parenthood 0 percent in 1996-2003.

1996 On the votes that the NARAL Pro-Choice America considered to be the most important in 1996 , Senator McCain voted their preferred position 0 percent of the time.

1996 On the votes that the National Right to Life Committee considered to be the most important in 1996, Senator McCain voted their preferred position 86 percent of the time.

1995-2004 On the votes that the National Family Planning & Reproductive Health Association considered to be the most important in 1995-2004, Senator McCain voted their preferred position 0 percent of the time.

1995-1998 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Planned Parenthood 0 percent in 1995-1998.

1993-1996 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Planned Parenthood 0 percent in 1993-1996.


Boy, that sure is some moderate record....

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

16. And that is mostly the awful anti-choice aspect of McNeocon.

War and economics brings McRightwingNutbag even further out on the cliff of failed policies.

[Ichingcarpenter]

18. This is a moderate in Bill's eye

[niceypoo]

12. Couldn't you find a more vague 'source?'

[Justitia]

13. I just saw him do this on TV - WTF?!?! WTF is he doing singing McCains praises on the trail????

This shit MUST stop.

I saw those words come out of his mouth and my jaw dropped in disbelief.

Our former Democratic President is out at campaign rallies talking up our opponent!!!

How can anyone defend this behavior as not damaging Our Party?

Someone needs to slap a muzzle on him and stuff him in the closet.

Geez, I hope some Super Delegates shut this shit down quick.

[niceypoo]

23. Take everything out of context...

...then smear them with it.

When you cannot hold up your own candidate on his merits you must smear his rivals.

Unity and Hope are nothing more than words.

[Justitia]

32. Bullshit! I just SAW him do this on TV. How can anyone defend what he's doing to us????

This is VERY SERIOUS.

And if you cannot appreciate what a former Democratic President is doing in terms of damage to Our Party with this, it is YOU wearing the blinders.

I am in shock. Never in my life have I seen a former 2 term Democratic President talking up our republican opponent on the campaign trail like this.

I'm sorry, but this is nuts and we need help shutting this down QUICK.

[BeyondGeography]

14. Go McCain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Beacool]

67. Actually, I always liked that photo.

McCain is not exactly my favorite guy, but it's still a good pic.

[BeyondGeography]

71. There's something so Washington-smarmy about it

[Barack_America]

15. Not surprising. Moderate Republicans and the DLC are so close...

...in their beliefs and platforms, that it's no wonder Bill's a little confused which *side* he's on. Very fine line, that one.

[4themind]

17. Come on now

Let's see War policy...yeah he's "moderate"....
Domestic Policy: hmm take a look at his "solution" to the housing crisis, he wants LESS regulation than there is NOW.
check mark on immigration/global warming, but this housing crisis and the effects on the economy has consistently ranked as the TOP domestic issue right now. Regardless of what either of the candidates/their spouses/ or the MSM say about this, I have many reasons to believe that his stance on this issue will weigh HEAVILY (and decisively) on peoples minds and shape their ideas of who's considered a "moderate" or not

[1776Forever]

19. Makes one wonder doesn't it! Too bad for them both - they are losing a lot of respect.

:shrug:

[IsItJustMe]

20. I wonder why the Clintons are so enamored with McCain.

They sure like McCain.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

22. I made a case a couple of years ago that McIdiot was to the right of Santorum.

The ACU had Man-on-dog at an 88.1 rating for 2004. McRidiculouslyCrazy at 82.3.

Close enough to forever dismiss this "moderate" bullshit.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

29. Fwiw: Clinton was rated 9.0 by ACU. Obama at 8.0

[sniffa]

25. *sigh*

I knew it was too good to be true. :eys:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5288114

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

31. #5 in that thread.

The Crystal Ball Award goes to polichick.

[sniffa]

42. Yeah, even I knew it would happen

I just wanted to give her her due (and HRC supporters here, too).

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

46. Yes, it was good to hear.

Finally.

[Autumn]

27. McCain is a fucking moderate n/t

[Ichingcarpenter]

30. He has a Zero Rating as a moderate

care to back up your opinion with facts?

[Autumn]

43. Sorry didn't finish he presents himself as

a fucking moderate,so does the media and some people,I know of three, are stupid enough to believe it.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

37. See post #22.

[redqueen]

34. He just can't say enough good things about McCain!

[TwilightGardener]

36. He has absolutely no reason to even be talking about McCain--and

yet he brings him up over and over, even though McCain is not who Hillary is running against. If people don't see the dark motives here, then they're blind.

[Ichingcarpenter]

38. Good things that are LIES

Even Hillary attacked McCain yesterday and I nominated that thread

Bill is another story and his lies and pandering to the Republicans must stop.

[redqueen]

44. I know... against torture? Moderate? Why is he lying to puff up McCain?

:wtf:

[charlie]

57. Same reason he kept going to bat for Dubya, I guess

I'm not talking about the heavy stuff blm is always going on about. Things like adding his weight to the certainty that Saddam had WMDs. Excusing Bush's "16 words" in the SOTU about Saddam buying uranium with, "well, everybody makes mistakes" and urging us to get over it and move on. Letting dipshit off the hook for his criminal neglect of New Orleans with, "nobody could see that this was going to happen." Grousing about the ill treatment he got for his Iraq stances, "I always defended Bush from the Left on Iraq."

Lieberman isn't the first DLC chairman to go batshit Republican, BTW. Michael Steinhardt quit the position, ironically in disgust over Clinton "returning to his old liberal ways." He went on to found The Sun, New York's newest conservative rag. He also became an early and ardent Bush backer, enthusing that Dubya was exactly what the country needed.

Bill was a DLC chairman. Looks like he's just following a well-worn track. With Harold Ford already out there endorsing Republican candidates, it's amazing the DLC hasn't been tarred, feathered, burned down, and blown to the winds yet.

[redqueen]

59. Ugh.. gawd... thanks for the reminders.

Every time he backed up the neo-con lies, people on here would freak out. Then his wife runs for presdient, and all of a sudden he's THE DAWG WOOT WOOT again.

:eyes:

[charlie]

62. No kidding

Every time I hear that "X years of peace and prosperity" canard, I want to take a 2-by-4 to someone's head. You pull Republicans out of the picture, things automatically get better, even if the replacement is a potted plant. Remove the cattle prod from your ass and the relief is glorious, but it doesn't mean you've landed in Utopia. If they think tepid triangulating Bill is sunshine and ponies, they oughta consider what a real progressive administration would be like, and quit pining for more of the same.

[bvar22]

69. The Clintons....still trying to have it both ways.

The essence of triangulation.

[meow mix]

39. Why do they keep helping McCain? WTF? Hillary supporters you need to explain thier actions

they are pure traitors from my view.

[charlie]

41. Meanwhile

Penn has been repeating the little factoid he "picked up" from the National Journal (I say bullshit, he was waiting for a third party source to give him cover for what he was already going to do) -- Obama is "the most liberal" senator in Washington. The DLC, like their rightwing brethren, love to use Liberal as an epithet. McCain is a Moderate, a sensible, grounded fellow, like oh say... Bill Clinton. Obama is LIBERAL-LIBERAL-LIBERAL, a moonbeam freak. Team Hillary is going to try to Atwaterize Obama.

[City Lights]

47. According to The Clinton, Obama is too far left and McCain is a moderate.

The Clinton can't exit the stage fast enough for me. :puke:

[slinkerwink]

48. John McCain is not a moderate. Bill just contradicted Hillary on that.

[tabasco]

50. Is Hillary going to pull a Lieberman?

Are they so delusional they think Hillary could win as an Independent?

[Ichingcarpenter]

52. No, I just think that Bill is unleashed

as her surrogate attack dog, that allows her to pander to both sides.

[Justitia]

55. But Dammit! A former 2 term Democratic President is doing this to us??? This is nuts!

In all my life, I've never seen such a thing.

We actually have a 2 term, Democratic President, on the campaign trail talking up our opponent.

I just cannot get over the shock of this.

The shock of seeing Hillary sitting next to Scaife this week was enough to stop my heart, and anyone around in the 90s knows exactly what I mean.

We really, really need those Super Delegates to step up.

The damage this is doing to Our Party cannot be overstated.

[futureliveshere]

51. Has he LOST his mind???

The man who
is willing to have permanent bases in Iraq,
wants to bomb Iran,
does not believe in helping out the common man on the mortgage crisis,
flip-flops on torture and
is willing to make permanent the Bush tax-cuts for the wealthy is called a MODERATE.

This would have been funny if it had not come from Bill Clinton. This makes it sad and mighty dangerous. Bill is GOD for many older democrats and the Latinos. This is STUPID, STUPID, STUPID

[high density]

53. Bill Clinton is draining his "political capital" account fast

Actually I think he's bouncing checks off of it at this point.

[Strelnikov_]

54. His account at the bank of loindelrio is overdrawn n/t

[loveangelc]

58. maybe he's trying to piss off conservatives.

[redqueen]

61. The conservatives are already pissed off. They already think of McCain as a RINO.

I like your theory and wish I could think that was the case, but I don't.

[Arugula Latte]

60. What the hell? ... What is wrong with the Clintons?

Have they forgotten they're Democrats?

I guess nothing is more important to them than their own political agenda.

A year ago, I wouldn't have said this, but -- they just disgust me now.

[Beacool]

63. McCain IS a moderate as far as the Republicans go.

He is not a true conservative and is reviled by them. McCain is no extremist, that's why he's attracting some of the Reagan Democrats. 44% of Democrats have a positive view of him.

[redqueen]

64. See post 22. This is a big fat lie.

Just cause gullible people believe it, does not make it true.

[charlie]

66. Yeah, right

McCain is one of the original Reaganauts and was known as a winger's winger back in the day. This fucking stupid accomodation of the moving definition of who's no longer an extremist is why we're chasing a "moderate" middle position that lurches ever rightward. Take a clue. Our job is to paint these rightwing nutjobs as rightwing nutjobs. Republicans got where they are by branding every Democrat who ever dared to get noticed as a Maoist. You ever hear of a Republican charging that his Republican opponent was "too conservative"?

[Beacool]

70. Nope, it's not my job.

For Hillary I'll continue to work my butt off. If she's not the nominee, I won't have a horse in this race and I'll watch from the sidelines. Since I think that Obama & McCain would not be good presidents, whatever happens in November happens......

[charlie]

72. Catapulting the fiction McCain's a "moderate"

isn't your job either. So it's what, your hobby? Something you do in your spare time that feels good? Aping the Clinton's lead?

[charlie]

68. kick n/t

[theredpen]

74. McCain used to be a moderate

Just like Clinton used to be a Democrat.

[anonymous171]

76. Remember when Obama was "too conservative"?

Good times :toast:

[workinclasszero]

80. I swear, Hillary will run as McCain's VP and the Big Dog

will back the ticket 1000 percent!:argh: