Clinton sought Casey's endorsement - Will her campaign demonize him like Richardson?

[powergirl]

Can we put to rest all of the trash talk about Sen. Casey now? He's a good man and Clinton supporters would be commenting on his principled politics, etc. etc. if only Clinton got his endorsement.

"Clinton gave $5,000 to Gov. Bill Richardson. Poor Richardson didn't have the same luck with Obama who gave him zip. Word in the blogosphere was that Richardson was angling for the VP spot with Clinton.

"Other notable superdelegates who cleaned up?

"Sen. Daniel Akaka (HI), Sen. Amy Klobuchar (MN), Sen. Sherrod Brown (OH), Sen. Bob Casey (PA), and Sen. Robert Byrd (WV) each received $10,000 a piece from both candidates, though none have endorsed either yet."



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christine-escobar/obama-clinton-fill-super_b_88114.html


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[OzarkDem]

1. Carville has been sent packing

as he should be.

[PoliticalAmazon]

38. Source, please? Thanks! /nt

[HereSince1628]

2. I think it's fair to say that both campaigns are seeking SD endorsements

When the SD's break one way or another its always going to be possible to say that the SDs support was sought.

No news here unless some idiot lap poodle starts barking again.

[islandmkl]

3. can there be more than one 'Judas'?....

or will they have to come up with Benedict Arnold or someone like that?

[C_U_L8R]

7. Judi? Judae? Judases?

I don't know, can there be more than one?

[DearAbby]

35. Dare I say it?

Pilate?

[IDemo]

4. Does a bear dodge sniper fire in the woods?

[gasperc]

5. we'll hear about her blowing a gasket any hour now

[Inuca]

6. He is a PILATE n/t

[durrrty libby]

8. Is Casey anti-choice?

[gabeana]

9. What does that matter

since Hillary belongs to an Anti-Choice religous group

"Furthermore, The Family takes credit for some of Clinton's rightward legislative tendencies, including her support for a law guaranteeing "religious freedom" in the workplace, such as for pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control prescriptions and police officers who refuse to guard abortion clinics."

Snip

"Sharlet generously attributes Clinton's involvement to the under-appreciated depth of her religiosity, but he himself struggles to define The Family's theological underpinnings. The Family avoids the word Christian but worships Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the "meek." They believe that, in mass societies, it's only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God's "dominion" on earth. Insofar as The Family has a consistent philosophy, it's all about power--cultivating it, building it and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or "cells." "We work with power where we can," Doug Coe has said, and "build new power where we can't."

Obama has given a beautiful speech on race and his affiliation with the Trinity United Church of Christ. Now it's up to Clinton to explain--or, better yet, renounce--her long-standing connection with the fascist-leaning Family. "

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich

[durrrty libby]

23. I have no idea what all that shit is that you wrote and don't care

It was a simple question ans since you couldn't give a straight answer,

I now know what the answer is:rofl:

[gabeana]

37. Of course you don't care

you are part of the ignorant masses, especially if you had to ask about Casey and just found out. This was an issue in his senate run, you simple people make my day:toast

[powergirl]

10. And Clinton sought his edorsement - she wasn't bothered by his policies THEN! N/T

[durrrty libby]

20. So in other words. Yes he is anti-choice. Too bad people

can't answer a question straight-up.

[Alexander]

43. And Hillary belongs to an anti-choice religious group, but you don't care...

Because it says something negative about St. Hillary and your blinders are on tight.

[SoxFan]

28. I'll take this one

Like Sen. Casey, I am a Democrat who is basically pro-life. I disagree with the Democratic party's position on the issue of abortion. However, I did not come to that position out of any animus towards women, or some deep-rooted misogyny.

People like Bob Casey and me believe in what Joseph Cardinal bernardin termed the seamless garment, that is, a respect for the sanctity of life in all its forms and at all stages. While we oppose abortion, we also understand the damage caused by economic inequity, by racial hatred, by ther eckless use of war as an instrument of foreign policy.

Both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton hold a position on abortion that is different than ours. We respect that position. The difference is that I feel that Sen. Obama respects my view, while Sen. Clinton does not. Sen. Clinton's tendency to engage in black-and-white, us-or-them polar politics is a recipe for disaster when dealing with a morally charged issue such as abortion. Sen. Obama's willingness to engage in a principled discussion, to seek common ground on reducing the number of and need for abortions, has great appeal to those of us who came to a pro-life position from a progressive perspective.

You may now commence the snickering and ad hominem attacks...

[OzarkDem]

11. Murtha is a much bigger endorsement than Casey

and will carry much more weight with voters in Pennsylvania.

[grantcart]

12. really ?

I would be interested if someone from PA said that.

Murtha's reputation has been tarnished by his ethics problems.

Casey is known as a man of high principle

[powergirl]

13. So, why did Clinton seek his endorsement? If he is so unimportant???

They are all important. And the Clinton campaign MO is to trash those who don't support her. It has nothing to do with ideology, etc. Notice that Obama didn't give Richardson any $$. And Richardson endorsed him. Enough said.

"Clinton gave $5,000 to Gov. Bill Richardson. Poor Richardson didn't have the same luck with Obama who gave him zip."

[BeyondGeography]

14. He is bigger and he does weigh more

[powergirl]

15. Cage Match!!

:)

[AllentownJake]

17. In one half of the state John Murtha is known

People in Eastern and Central PA don't know who the heck he is. PA is really two states the Philadelphia side and the Pittsburg side.

[cali]

21. No he's not.

Just who of the two has higher approval ratings? Grab a clue.

[tabasco]

26. That's a load of crap if ever I heard one!

If you knew one thing about PA, you would not have made such a stupid statement.

[JimGinPA]

30. No He's Not - Casey Is The Only Democrat Senator In PA...

Murtha is one of many of the congressional reps. He has very little "weight" outside of his district. Sen. Casey's father was very popular in the state, much more than Rendell will ever be. And I have worked and donated to both Casey & Rendell. Talk about something you know about, not something you wish were true.

[PoliticalAmazon]

40. Don't think he's more important, but he's important for a couple of reasons:

1) He was one of the first outspoken congressional critics of the Iraq invasion of the reps who had voted for it.
2) He has such a strong military persona that his support may serve to help polish up HRC's tarnished and soiled history of Iraq policy.

[AllentownJake]

16. The Casey Family

Those familliar with PA politics know that the Casey family owes the Clinton family nothing. Bill treated Bob Sr. with disrespect in the 90s. Calling him Judas assumes everyone owes the Clinton's something.

[Ichingcarpenter]

18. Didn't Casey have a bitter fight against Rendell for Governor?

So it is no surprise that he is against Rendell?

I'm not familiar with PA politics.

[AllentownJake]

19. 2002 Primary

Yep,

Fast Eddie ran only on the Eastern side of the state. Casey carried 57 of 67 counties but still lost by 14 points. The eastern side of the state is where everyone a majority of the population lives and by running up the score there he won a majority and became the nominee.

I like Fast Eddie. Lived in Philly when he was mayor. I know he'll work as hard for the nominee as he is right now for Senator Clinton in PA.

Casey gives Obama some clout with Catholic Voters and people in the rural areas of the state as he's always helped them.

[Ichingcarpenter]

24. Thanks for the info

Last time I was in Pennsylvania, Scranton (r) and Shafer (r) were governors........LOL

[azmouse]

22. Casey will join Richardson under the bus.

[Barack_America]

29. He'll certainly join him ON the bus!

Obama's bus-trip across Pennsylvania, that is!

Actually I'm not sure if Richardson is on the bus trip, but Casey is.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

31. watch out for snipers?

[azmouse]

34. Lucky you being there for the bus trip.

Will you have the chance to hear Obama speak?

I used to live in Reading, PA. Nice area of the country. :hi:

[Beacool]

25. No, Casey was not a personal friend who lied to people to their face.

Richardson deserved to be called "Judas". He lied to Bill, Hillary and several others when, even up to the time that he was about to go on vacation, he told them that he was not planning on endorsing Obama. Meantime, he had already called Obama and told him that he would have his endorsement after his return from his vacation. That's being a duplicitous sack of shit and deserved to be called worse things than Judas!!!

And that's the real reason why Carville said what he said and refused to retract it.

[tabasco]

27. You got a link for that inside information?

Thanks.

[Beacool]

32. Nope, campaign insider info.

No one is going to go on record on that one, but it's what Carville was referring to when he said that there were other issues and when Anderson Cooper asked him what they were, he clammed up. Richardson behaved reprehensibly on a personal level that went beyond politics and many insiders are truly angry at him in a way that they were not at others who sided with Obama. It was personal and I doubt that it'll be soon forgotten.

[powergirl]

36. Carville is the only one who stated this "insider information"

No link to the supposition above, of course.

[madrchsod]

33. judas? --the betraying of christ?

interesting choice of words from carville...

[PoliticalAmazon]

39. Casey said she was "gracious" when he told her...

...so this may be a new approach by Hillary Clinton. Perhaps she's learning that "scorched earth" equals "burned bridges." Her scorched-earth policy also served to highlight her shrewish ham-fisted nature when it comes to getting what she wants.

[powergirl]

41. Richardson said she was gracious as well

I hope this is the case. I am an Obama supporter. But I don't want to see Sen. Clinton go down in flames with anger.

[TexasLady]

42. I just heard that Clinton is about to announce some too

heard it a minute ago.

it's getting interestinger and interestinger.

[AllentownJake]

44. She's in Indiana

Who is left there? She's already got Bayh.

I heard she was getting some mayors that are not SD in the western part of the state.

[TexasLady]

45. eh, it was just a quick blurp on the telly

about an hour ago, then ...nothin..

who knows?
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