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odelisk8 Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:06 AM
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"Hillary Clinton is the victim of a sleazy Obama campaign"
um...right...

Clinton: Sleeping with the Enemy To Mess Up Obama's Bed?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19617.htm

The Clinton campaign keeps insisting that Hillary Clinton is the victim of a sleazy Obama campaign--though it engages in nasty tactics to denigrate Barack Obama. The Clintonites, it now seems, will even make common cause with the rightwing Hilary-haters to do so.
By MoJo Blog


27/03/08 "MoJo Blog" -- -- As Marc Ambinder reports, the Clinton campaign has distributed an American Spectator article that claims that retired General Merrill McPeak, an Obama foreign policy adviser, is an anti-Semite and a drunk. An anti-Semite? Supposedly because he has noted that the Israel lobby in America influences Mideast policy and because he advocates Israel withdrawing to its pre-1967 borders. Of course, that definition of anti-Semitism is absurd. But for the Clinton campaign to turn to the American Spectator, a rightwing publication that led the Clinton witch-hunts of the 1990s (and which published stories by David Brock and others regarding Bill Clinton's personal life), shows a certain desperation--or a damn-history opportunism. The article argues that Obama is bad for the Jews. The Clintonites are disseminating it. That would be ugly enough. The source renders the episode damn ugly.

Meanwhile, Clinton herself cozied up to the Richard Mellon Scaife--the man who funded the "vast rightwing conspiracy" (which included the American Spectator) that tried to destroy the Clintons in the 1990s--in order to take a swipe at Obama. On Tuesday, Clinton met with editors and reporters of the archly conservative Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, which Scaife owns. At that session, she did what she could to keep the Jeremiah Wright controversy alive by saying, "He would not have been my pastor. You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend." In attendance was Scaife. ("Hell has officially frozen over," rightwing journalist Byron York commented.) So has Clinton no shame? No pride? Or merely a sharp sense of political calculation? Did she ponder the irony of using Scaife's platform (in the key state of Pennsylvania) to discredit a fellow Democrat?

All's fair in love, war, and hotly contested primaries? Maybe. But that doesn't make it right. Clinton might be willing to put aside her grudge against the American Spectator and Scaife because doing so helps her politically. But in the 1990s this band of Clinton-haters were out to ruin not merely her and her hubby but the entire progressive agenda. (They always believed the Clintons to be far more left than Bill and Hillary actually were.) But now, for Hillary Clinton, they're good enough to use against Obama.

On Monday, during a conference call with reporters, Phil Singer, a senior Clinton aide, expressed tremendous outrage that a Clinton supporter in Iowa had blogged that a Bill Clinton remark (which may have been a poke at Obama's patriotism) was "a stain on legacy much worse, much deeper, than the one on Monica's blue dress." Singer went on about how this was proof the Obama camp was running a tawdry campaign reviving the rightwing Clinton hatred of the past. That was hyperbole, of course. But it was hypocritical hyperbole. If Clintonites can use an over-the-top American Spectator article to try to whip up trouble between Obama and Jewish voters and if she can sit politely next to Scaife because doing so affords her a good media opportunity for slamming Obama, her campaign has no basis for comparing criticism from the Obama camp to the misdeeds of Kenneth Starr and the Clinton pursuers of the 1990s. By legitimizing the "vast rightwing conspiracy" so she can put down Obama, Hillary Clinton may be confirming one of the Klinton Krazies perennial talking points about her and her husband: they will do anyting--anything!--to win.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19617.htm
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:07 AM
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1. Murdock. Scaife. The woman keeps some pretty far-right company.
One can't help but notice.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:10 AM
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2. And her weekly prayer group buddies, Inhofe and Sanctimonium.
NGU.


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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:14 AM
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5. Yep. Forgot about them. Delightful bunch.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 11:48 AM
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24. Is she the new hybrid NEOCON/Democrat that Joementum
tried to be?

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 11:53 AM
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26. Some of you are just noticing now - but Clintons were GROOMED in the 80s to protect BushInc
and they did it very well thoughout the 90s as they took the heat on trumped up charges while the serious matters outstanding in IranContra, Iraqgate, BCCI and CIA drugrunning were swept under the oval office rug.

The 90s was a dog and pony show for the bases while the distractions allowed the Global Fascist Agenda to march on with little notice.
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Smelting Pot Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:11 AM
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3. But, but... Hillary's just fighting back! She's a fighter!
Her campaign HAS to hit Obama harder cause she's just a girl! Besides, if you don't want to get hit on the football field, don't go into politics! Or something like that. I might be misquoting that last bit. I'm sleep deprived.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:12 AM
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4. informationclearinghouse
is a banned source on DU. Not sure why, but I had a thread locked because I linked to it.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:18 AM
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8. Perhaps,
but Senator Clinton's currying favor with Richard Mellon Scaife is documented all over the web and media.

I am sickened by her willingness to utterly debase herself in order to win.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 10:35 AM
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19. That's nuts. Informationclearinghouse.info is one of the best websites on the net.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 11:50 AM
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25. That's a damn shame, because it is one of the best news
sources on the web.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:15 AM
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6. Classic Rovian tactics...
accuse the other guy of doing what in fact you yourself are doing. Rove must have lent her a copy of his manual.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:16 AM
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7. My apologies to Clinton supporters, but
to me this election is about the lesser of two evils. The people I wanted to run, either didn't or dropped out (Gore-Edwards). The candidates left do not thrill me, so I am left voting for the one with the least amount of evil in their column. Senator Clinton's is overflowing at this point.

When you start siding with people who bankrolled a multi-million dollar campaign to destroy you and your family, then you are telling me that you will do ANYTHING to win, no matter how immoral, demeaning or soul-destroying.

This is not about sexism, or racism, it is about the fact that there are prices too high to pay for power, and this is one of them. IF she does not respect herself, how can anyone expect me to respect her?

Be honest. We would NEVER tolerate this kind of collaboration with the enemy from another candidate.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:20 AM
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10. great post Kelvin
it usually does come down to a lesser of 2 evils at election time...I too wanted Gore, then Kerry, then Edwards and now Obama and if I have to I WILL vote for Clinton if she's the nominee-I am a democrat 1st and foremost
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:19 AM
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9. Obama/GOP campaign
Key reasons:

She's shown she's willing to fight again for Universal Health Care and Obama has shown he's willing to abandon it. That puts the big money, powerful people on Obama's side.

Clinton has also shown she's willing to take a strong principled stand on economic policy. Again, Obama does his routine of flowery language but no substance. Big money people want Obama.

Right now the GOP is hedging its bets and fluffing up McCain while going after Clinton. They're protecting Obama, saving their attacks for the GE. If he wins the primary and somehow survives the GE, he will be solidly in their pocket.



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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:23 AM
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11. your bitterness and delusion is tres funny...
banky will make it all better;
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:31 AM
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12. How old are you?
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:38 AM
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13. here, i've got a whole case for you bitter folks...
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:55 AM
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15. I'm not bitter, Hillary is going to win this thing. You
keep the blankie, you are gonna need it.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 11:46 AM
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23. The only way she can win
is to go against the popular will of the people and steal the election via Superdelegates. If she does that, the party will split and we will lose in November to McCain.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:28 PM
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27. Something tells me these Shillbots want exactly that.
If "their girl" can't win, they'd rather have McCain.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:04 PM
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28. No, I think it is just a form of
temporary insanity. These folks have invested themselves in Senator Clinton and have just become blind to her faults.

Obama to me is just not was flawed as Clinton. I can't say I an an enthusiastic supporter, but I just can't vote for Clinton. If she wins I'll hold my nose and vote, but I won't be happy about it. She seem to believe that her victory lies to the right, not the left.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:48 AM
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14. Yeah. Whatever.
:rofl:
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 11:43 AM
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21. Principled stand?
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 11:43 AM by Kelvin Mace
She is kissing Richard Mellon Scaife's ass to get elected, how much principle can she have? Please explain to me why any person with even a single electron's worth of self-respect would curry favor from a person who did to her and her family what Scaife did?
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:59 AM
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16. We don't elect "victims" as our President...
The Clinton Campaign really needs to figure that out. Whining about how you're being ill-used will garner you precisely ZERO votes.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 10:01 AM
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17. Can anyone around in the 90s believe it? **MFing Scaife!*** As in, "Clinton murdered her lover"
How the hell can she sit next to that loathsome creature???

Wow, she must REALLY hate her fellow Democratic opponent.

Now, this morning, I'm in total shock watching our former 2 term Democratic President talking up our opponent on the campaign trail.

Damn, for anyone that's been around long enough, this feels like the Earth has reversed polarity.

Somebody needs to do something - like yesterday.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 10:18 AM
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18. When one can step back a moment and view this campaign, one
will see the only way obama would have a chance was to play the race card early and often and hope there was a willing whoremedia to spread it so Hillary were to blame. It sure worked. Even with groups that monitor whether this person or that person is being reported on in a positive or negative light, obama has won that hands down with 83% positives and here again the whoremedia props this phoney man up.

Even when obama lied last week in his "race" speech the media did not say he lied about his association and attendance at sermons where wright proved through his words he was a racist. Hell, they did not report it at all. They were to busy kissing up to obama and making this speech out to be equal to "the sermon on the mount".

As I tried to be fair to obama in my writings, until it became apparent that obama had linked himself with a racist and a bigot there was just too much out there not to call obama, obigot.I even wrote several times this pastor was anti Jew, anti Israel and even in his rantings anti-white. But instead of trying to accept what was written I too along with many hrc supporters were called bigots, racists. Well, how does it feel when you can see and hear the rantings of this pastor that proves he is anti-white, anti Jew, and anti Israel. Now, this same pastor has insulted the Italian people with his comments.All obama can say is even with those statements one cannot overlook the man's life works. Well gee there mr obigot I wish you had been as forgiving of Don Imus whose life work was to provide a haven where kids with cancer and their parents could go and enjoy themselves at the Imus Ranch. Obigot said that did not matter....So now, obigot has created a double standard and the difference between the two; one is white and one is black.

I know I will get hateful words back on this but I can rest well knowing what words written in the past to alert folks of obigot has come full circle, and now this man stands a good shot at being the representative of the democratic party as its nominee.Such a shame when we had this election won until obama decided he had to "unite us". WOW! How is that working out for us?
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odelisk8 Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 10:38 AM
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20. no hate
what you are saying is absurd. proof? nah. dont need it, right? fool.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 11:44 AM
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22. It's called projection.
But it's so glaringly obvious that her campaign is the sleazy one that I doubt if anyone is buying it.
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