ElsewheresDaughter
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:46 AM
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Pennsylvania Poll shows Sen. Hillary Clinton leads Sen. Barack Obama, 51% to 39%. |
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Key findings: Obama leads among men 51% to 38% and Clinton leads among women 61% to 30%. Clinton leads among white voters 60% to 30% and Obama leads among African American voters 83% to 11%. Obama leads 46% to 43% among likely primary voters under 50 and Clinton leads 60% to 32% among likely primary voters 50 and older. March 28, 2008 http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/03/28/arg_poll_clinton_up_by_double_digits_in_pennsylvania.html
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:47 AM
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:48 AM
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2. That type of a lead is going to do nothing for her. She needs waaaaaaay more delegates than that. |
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:48 AM
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3. yep. If Hillary doesn't win by 20, she's done. |
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:52 AM
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7. Sorry, but it's more like 30. |
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Fri Mar-28-08 01:14 PM
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30. More than that, even, when you consider the fact that NC is going for Obama, possibly IN too. |
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Hillary basically has to take PA with 100% of the vote in order to even be competitive... and even then she's STILL behind.
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:49 AM
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4. Those numbers will not do. a 56-44 win would not be enough. |
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:49 AM
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5. not good enough for poor Hill;y |
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12 pts won't do a thing for her, and besides he's still got over 3 weeks to pare her lead down. Today Casey is endorsing him and there's bad news for your gal in all the national polls. Plus Leahy's call for her to drop out is getting a lot of play and will reverberate among uncommitted SDs.
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:51 AM
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6. Today is the first day of the bus tour. nt |
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:54 AM
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The Clinton campaign is finished. It is over. Done. Kaput. It is time to organize for November.
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:54 AM
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9. that's not that bad tbh... |
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:56 AM
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10. Now now, I think ARG has earned its way back into the not good but not awful pollster club. |
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:57 AM
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11. Anything less than double digit loss is a win for Obama. nm |
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:59 AM
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14. Double digits and beginning with the number 2. |
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:58 AM
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12. And I suppose that you think this is GOOD news for HRC... |
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Nope. She would need to be leading by something like 40% at this point to allow for the "inevitable" bite that Obama's campaign in-state will take from her lead, whatever it is. And guess what? It still wouldn't give her anything close to a delegate lead - or the craved "momentum." You need to move right on to delegate poaching and advocating for those "disenfranchised" FL and MI primary voters. Oh, and character assassination of Obama and friends - that works pretty well, doesn't it?
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:59 AM
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13. Similar to the recent Ramussen poll (49%-39%) |
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she's got to do better than that.
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Fri Mar-28-08 11:01 AM
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15. Obama's just getting started there |
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Hillfans should be :scared: by numbers like these.
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Fri Mar-28-08 11:03 AM
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16. Veruca's got the old, ignorant, white woman crowd, but that's not nearly enough. |
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Fri Mar-28-08 11:11 AM
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18. I Want the Presidency and I want it NOW!! |
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Fri Mar-28-08 11:09 AM
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17. Throw in the towel obama |
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It's over. So goes Pennsylvania so goes the country.
:sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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Fri Mar-28-08 11:13 AM
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19. She's slipping.. he's rising.. |
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Fri Mar-28-08 11:44 AM
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20. I'm going to say it. Obama will win PA by 2-3% |
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The Clinton tax returns mid-April (if that happens) are going to hit them again as well as a speech on trade from Obama that peels back the truth behind Hillary Clinton's support of NAFTA while First Lady.
Bookmark this...
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Fri Mar-28-08 12:02 PM
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22. From your keyboard to the voter gods ears I hope. |
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Fri Mar-28-08 12:33 PM
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26. She won't release them |
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There will be an excuse/delay.
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Fri Mar-28-08 11:59 AM
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21. Hillary must win every single vote in PA |
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or it's a huge win for Obama.
:rofl:
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Fri Mar-28-08 12:18 PM
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23. A concern about Pennsylvania polls. |
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They're not likely to include new registrants and party switchers. The county boards are still processing these forms. The campaigns don't yet have access to this data, so I highly doubt the pollsters have it.
On the other hand, if they're cold-calling people, how do they know whether or not these people are telling the truth about their party registration, race, age, etc.?
I'm not sure that any of the polls are going to be able to capture this.
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Fri Mar-28-08 12:23 PM
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24. you sure bring out the ignored |
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spooky having all of those voiceless posts gathered here
Nice poll!!
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:18 PM
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Fri Mar-28-08 12:29 PM
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25. *** He's closing in on her lead -- on 3/11 it was H-55; O-36 |
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I jotted down the numbers on my desktop notepad that day just so I would watch the progess of during what was then 6 weeks waiting for PA. The Wright story had not yet hit, and he has not yet really campaigned in PA, but he's narrowed her lead by 7 points! GOBAMA!!
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Fri Mar-28-08 12:35 PM
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27. Oh, goody. So she can drag this out even longer. |
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She can't win. She needs to get out.
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Fri Mar-28-08 12:38 PM
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28. Can't Obama declare that PA doesn't count? |
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Fri Mar-28-08 12:41 PM
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29. I like this poll for Obama |
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he is just starting his strong push this week
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Fri Mar-28-08 01:17 PM
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31. It won't matter. She cannot catch up. |
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Fri Mar-28-08 01:20 PM
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32. Is this from trollpoll2000?? |
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:19 PM
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34. ARG isn't reliable. She's ahead, but still. Nice trying. |
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:24 PM
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35. clinton will win but not by enough to make a difference |
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the problem for hillary is that obama has a lot of time left in pa to make up points. even when you are ahead never give your opponent more time in the game...
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Fri Mar-28-08 10:37 PM
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36. It always fascinates me the way the percentages are |
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reported.....
If Clinton leads among "women" that must mean that African American females are included ~ right?
And if Obama leads among African American "voters" are some of those voters "women" or are they men and women or does it not matter what gender they are ?"
Huuum.....
"Clinton leads among women 61% to 30%. Clinton leads among white voters 60% to 30% and Obama leads among African American voters 83% to 11%."
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Fri Mar-28-08 11:08 PM
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37. too bad she lost all those other states or this would be a decisive margin for her |
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but it's not enough to catch up to Obama.
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