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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:33 PM
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It's official - I'm supporting Obama
I tried to remain neutral but it's just not happening. I was upset with Obama's comments about Reagan (they were about change under Reagan but not pro-Reagan); however, I cannot get over my disgust of Hillary Clinton smoozing with Richard Mellon Scaife.

Hillary had other options for an interview in Pittsburgh. The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review is nothing more than a glory paper for a millionaire blowhard who tries to be another Heast using his barely read newspaper to promote his right-wing hate. The Tribune is nothing more than another Washington Times and the Tribune's owner, Richard Mellon-Scaife, actually loses money on this paper in order to promote his right-wing agenda.

What's worse is Scaife spent $2.4 million dollars on the 'Arkansas Project' - a pet project to discredit the Clintons back in the early 1990s and hopefully remove the Clintons from the White House. I know it is said to 'Keep your friends close and your enemies closer' but doing an interview at the Pittsburgh Tribune Review is like saying your enemy is some sad sack clown that can barely keep anyone in laughs. Hillary had other options to reach out to Pittsburgh Voters, a city built on its Unions, and that would be the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - a paper that has the largest circulation in the region.

That doesn't mean I won't support Hillary if she gets the nomination. I'm just disappointed that she would schmooze with such sleaze like Richard Mellon Scaife
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:34 PM
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1. Welcome to the party!
:party: :woohoo:
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:34 PM
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2. Glad to hear it, LynneSin!
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:36 PM
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3. Welcome and...
Gotta have more cowbell! :)
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:36 PM
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4. Welcome nt
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:37 PM
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5. Edwards would have been better but hey
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 01:37 PM by YOY
At least he's making me feel like I'm supporting the "good guy" and not just the "mud slinger on our side."

It's pretty good here isn't it?
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:54 PM
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75. I would join you but Obama's supporters do 75% of the mud slinging...
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 01:55 PM by niceypoo
...all in Obama's name.

I refuse to join in a blanket party.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:37 PM
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6. Welcome!
:toast:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:37 PM
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7. Welcome.. and be ready..
You're going to get flamed for being an Obamaton and then disparaged for picking on poor Hillary. It's actually quite amusing if you don't let it get to you.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:40 PM
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:46 PM
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13. Well maybe more like 70%.. I was only here an hour today
before I had racked up a list of 3rd grade insults.. apparently I'm a brainwashed moron.. Because only Hillary supporters think for themselves, if you aren't following them in lock step, you aren't thinking for yourself. I have drank the kool-aid... and it was good.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:37 PM
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8. we're all democrats Lynne
hopefully after Obama wraps this thing up a lot of the more radical Clinton supporters will also remember that...
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:43 PM
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10. That's great Lynne! Now about that volunteering in Philly...
...we'd love to have you! ;)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:44 PM
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12. Only if you come down to my party on 4/19
it's in Wilmington DE
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:46 PM
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49. Sweet!
I'll certainly consider it! Is it on the mybarackobama page?

I hope the campaign doesn't have us too busy canvassing that day! lol.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:44 PM
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11. Not to mention all the cowbells you're bringing on board
Good News, he wasn't my first choice either.






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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:50 PM
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16. Well we're getting down to 3rd choice here
I was 100% Biden, a few weeks with Edwards and then permamently neutral.

But I am going to try my best to not be disrespectful to Hillary supporters. LostinVa is one of my best friends here at DU and the last thing I would do is to say anything ignorant about Hillary supporters because that means I would be including LostinVa in those harsh words.

I'm disgusted at Hillary but not at her supports or the option of voting for Hillary if she gets the nomination. I would hope that all Obama supporters make that same pledge too
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:12 PM
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29. LostinVa is a good guy
Nice message LynneSin
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:18 PM
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31. A good *woman,* actually....
And I'm with LynneSin.

LostinVA has taken a lot of really ugly abuse in this forum over the past couple of months. Why she hasn't told everybody to fuck off is beyond me, but I'm so, so glad she's still with us. :loveya:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:29 PM
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38. Stand corrected
I agree, she is a good old timer Duer with a great heart.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:31 PM
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40. I'm not sure which was funnier.
The person who compared her to Fred Phelps, or the person who called her a newbie.

Funny in a :wtf: kind of way....
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:48 PM
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67. She's a troll.
:hide:

I LURVE her. Big time.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:35 AM
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82. LOL! I just saw this.
I do, too, Midlo. I do, too. :hi:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:24 PM
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44. I've always liked LostinVa
We have that special kind of bond. She has a VW diesel (Golf). I have a VW diesel (Beetle). That kind of link it impossible to break. LOL.

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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:01 PM
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60. Agreed.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:51 PM
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74. Me too, Lynne. 100% Biden then Edwards just before he jumped out...
twice bitten. loved Joe, cried after Iowa. just as i began seeing hope in John- dropped out of the race.

i'm still hurting too much to "fall in love" with Barak so soon. hell- i still have my Biden avatar on...
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:47 PM
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14. I think the Scaife thing was the last straw for quite a few people.
I mean, I know that "politics makes for strange bedfellows" and all that, but this just kind of speaks to a level of opportunism so jaw-dropping that it's impossible to overlook.

Anyway, welcome to the party. Just get ready to be called every name in the book for it.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:48 PM
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15. I thought you'd go Walken for sure.
:(
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:52 PM
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17. awwww
:pals:
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:53 PM
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18. For those of us who suffered thru the 90s, seeing her sit next to MFing SCAIFE was a shock. -eom
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:55 PM
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19. I remember a co-worker who was a major freeper
I mean, he read Free Republic and this was way before DU existed. I would defend the Clintons to people like him who were spewing the lies straight out of Mellon-Scaife's playbook. Now Hillary is saying it's ok to joke around and be friends with him. Even is Mellon-Scaife is a 'non-factor' when it comes to the democratic party he's still not a person I would ever want to trust.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:57 PM
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20. Scaife is the guy who came up with the Vince Foster smear
Wonder if that subject came up in their discussion? If it did, I hink Hillary should have shot back by reminding him that Steve Kangas (author of an excellent Liberalism FAQ)was found dead in a bathroom in his office building. Not that there's anything to actually implicate Scaife in his death, but sauce for the goose and all that.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:02 PM
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24. Ha! Not a chance. They looked pretty chummy to me. It turned my stomach.
This guy, whenever I pass a bldg in downtown Philly w/his name on it, I spit on it.

Now, here's Hillary Clinton, chatting him up like an old friend - unfreakingbelievable!

:crazy:
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:58 PM
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21. I'm almost there, too.
Between the Scaife thing and the Bosnia lie, I'm not sure she can go much lower.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:00 PM
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22. The meeting with Scaife was like telling him "you won."
The Clintons and the right wing - - "if you can't beat 'em - join 'em!"
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:02 PM
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23. Woohoo, welcome Lynne! Fellow PA'er
:woohoo:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:20 PM
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42. Thanks but I, u m, live in Delaware
We are still our own state - for now

:cry:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:29 AM
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81. LOL, sorry, I was so excited I forgot.
:rofl:
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:02 PM
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25. Your posts in GDP are even better than those in the lounge
Hooray for lounge lizards!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:04 PM
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26. Welcome LynneSin.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:05 PM
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27. That's awesome, Lynne!!!
And your reasoning makes perfect sense... the Scaife thing is just baffling, isn't it?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:08 PM
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28. Cool -- here's your official cult robe and your cup of kool-aid
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 02:09 PM by jgraz


Who has the keys to the initiation chamber?



On edit: Welcome aboard! :thumbsup:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:20 PM
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33. Does that make me an Zombie Kool-aid Drinking Obama supporter?
:woohoo:

I miss zososmom

:eyes:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:26 PM
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36. Yes. + Pancake and cowbell.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:16 PM
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30. welcome aboard. we pray facing Mecca and wear blinders. but snipers never fire on us.
seriously: he rocks, yeah?
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:22 PM
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71. LOL!
That was very funny! :)
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:19 PM
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32. I will remain neutral to save my sanity.
I am afraid if I actually choose one or the other, I will end up trashing my fellow Dems like others do on GD-P. It is just way too divisive for me. I will back whichever candidate gets the nomination. I am happy for you though!!!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:22 PM
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34. I hope to never get to that point
I can be critical of Hillary without slandering her supporters. The only time you see me slandering is if it's someone who is like "If Hillary doesn't get the nomination I'm going to Vote 3rd Party/not Vote/Vote McCain"

And btw, I would slander any Obama supporter who said the same thing.

We need to heal and remember that the enemy isn't Barack or Hillary but John McCain
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:27 PM
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37. It has been very sad to read some of the posts on GD-P.
I wonder how we will gather behind our nominee? There are things I like about both of them and there are things I really don't like at all about both of them. They both have baggage. But I am a Democrat and I will fight to the death to get a Democrat in the White House. Our country is depending on us. There is much damage to repair from Bush and we will need to be united and strong to beat McCain.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:45 PM
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79. You're a daisy if you do. nt
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:23 PM
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35. More cowbell!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:29 PM
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39. Does that mean I have to like you?
:evilgrin:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:15 PM
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41. FUCK NO YOU FREEPER ASSHOLE
:hide:

I'm not that bad of a person am I?

Moderator note: I was just joking, Buzz Clik is not a Freeper asshole, he just plays one on TV
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:38 PM
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47. Hey, I like you better already.
If you can swear like my grandma, you're my kind of woman.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:23 PM
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43. I went through that exact same process except
for me it started with the contemptuous way she treated Tasini.

Ridicule and contempt -- what kind of a way is that to treat Democratic candidates?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:25 PM
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45. Welcome!
I know it's been a hard choice for some posters on here, where neither Clinton nor Obama are really "good" choices for them.


:hug:
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:29 PM
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46. Welcome from a Kucinicher
Now a bartender on the Obama love boat...

We will go all the way
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:40 PM
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48. I look forward to a series of posts here that begin with "You fucking village idiots need to STFU.."
:toast:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:33 PM
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58. I'm sorry sweetie - that's saved for my wonderful friends in the lounge...
...so you fucking village idiot you need to STFU

:loveya:
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 05:37 PM
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50. Welcome to our movement for change!
:toast:
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 05:38 PM
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51. Indeed. My "revelation" came this week too.
Go Obama Go!
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 05:39 PM
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52. go for it and lose. didn't take much to buy you out.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 05:40 PM
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53. Most of my Edwards supporter-friends have come over to Obama
well done!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 05:48 PM
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54. More cowbell!
I know what you mean. There's only so much sleeping with the enemy I can take. Also, I didn't appreciate how she talked up john mccain at Obama's expense. WTF??? There should be an 11th and 12th Commandment for Democrats, just as there's the famous 11th Commandment for the GOP - ("thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow republi-CON"). OURS should be 11th: "Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Democrat," and 12th: "Thou shalt not speak well of ANY republi-CON."

Our people should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, repeat - NEVER say nice things about the opposition. EVER!!!!!!! The time to say nice things about the opposition is when you're announcing that you've just received their call congratulating you on your victory and conceeding their own defeat. You're NOT there to do their advertising and PR for them!!!
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:28 PM
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57. YES.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:11 PM
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55. The Scaife thing really is shocking.
What would Joe Conason say?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:15 PM
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56. Great to hear.
Obama will make us all proud!
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:00 PM
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59. That's great!
I'm so glad! :D

Welcome! :toast: :party: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:01 AM
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61. Me too !!!
I am so totally behind obama !!!
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:42 AM
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62. groovy!!
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:34 AM
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64. Good news!
:thumbsup:
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:42 AM
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65. Yeah i'm from Pittsburgh
and Richard Mellon Scaife and Trib Total Media sicken me!
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mhoran Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:38 PM
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66. As if we needed another reminder
It's win at all costs for HRC. She is utterly and completely cut from the rethug cloth. Sad.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:51 PM
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68. 2 thumbs up!
:hi:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:54 PM
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69. The Scaife flirtation is yet another example of how Mrs. Clinton winks
her lashes at the Far Right.

Very unsettling to those of use who remember Scaife's attempted role in undermining her husband's presidency.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:21 PM
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70. We certainly need your voice, LynneSin. K&R.
This Obama newbie is proud to have you with us.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:24 PM
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72. Three former Edwards supporters in my household, myself included, will be voting for Obama.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:50 PM
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73. Same here, PA Democrat- Welcome, LinneSin!
We all supported Edwards.
When he stepped down, all three of us
came around to vote for Obama on
Super Tuesday.

LinneSin, I'm with you.
Fight McCain and the Repugs- NOT each other!

:) :hi:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:57 PM
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76. LynneSin and IndianaGreen are in accord and on the same side of the barricades!
Considering our long posting history with one another, this one is only matched by my public apology to madfloridian.

Wooohooo!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:13 PM
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77. whoa, you don't think DU will implode knowing this alignment
:scared:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:43 PM
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78. Glad you're on our side, LynneSin. Now I KNOW we must be doing something right!
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 02:46 PM by Kahuna
:yourock:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:46 PM
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80. Just as long as everyone knows I would be on her side if she gets the nomination
and I'm not here to badmouth Hillary or her supporters either. I may have concerns about some of the things we do but I'm not getting in the middle of this battle of really negative words
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:04 PM
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83. Kick. nt
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:31 PM
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84. This may sound awkward coming from a relative newbie(me) but
welcome aboard :hi: as obama says we can all disagree without being disagreeable.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:14 PM
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85. kick
:)
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