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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:19 PM
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Hillary Clinton and her Endless Circle of Bullshit
1. Failing to seat MI and FL delegates disenfranchises voters!

2. The only way I can win is for the superdelegates to overrule the pledged delegates, thereby disenfranchising voters. But the RULES allow this!

3. The RULES in MI and FL should not be followed - because it disenfranchises voters.


Hillary's Endless Circle of Bullshit!


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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:21 PM
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1. Each of your points is bullshit
an endless circle of it!

Yes, having votes not count IS, in fact, disenfranchisement. Having superdelegates play their assigned role is NOT disenfranchisement - the other votes still count. People aren't disenfranchised simply because their candidate didn't win.

The "rules" were not in MI and FL - they were DNC rules with draconian and arbitrary punishments, and it's perfectly fine to ask that the punishment be changed.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:22 PM
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2. Each of my points is exactly correct. Stop living in a world of delusion.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:24 PM
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4. Horseshit
Try reading the super delegate charter....google is your friend
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:25 PM
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9. Bullshit actually. Hillary's Bullshit. An endless circle of it.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:26 PM
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11. I assume you didn't read the charter...of course you didn't
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:41 PM
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24. Whaleshit!!!
(just wanted to get in on the action... )
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:42 PM
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26. LOL
You're in
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:59 PM
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31. Here's the link;
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:32 PM
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18. Endless for sure.
I think that they are going to have to end up removing her.

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:41 PM
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25. "I think that they are going to have to end up removing her."

.........kicking and screaming "But its MINE! Its MY TURN!"

:rofl:
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:46 PM
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28. With a Straightjacket no less.
I swear. It would not surprise me! :shrug: She seems that desperate!

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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:28 PM
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14. Ahem...
"Yes, having votes not count IS, in fact, disenfranchisement."

So, if I text messaged a member of my local election board saying "I vote Obama!!! Wooo!" and they don't count it, I'm being disenfranchised? I mean, who cares if I didn't follow the election rules right? If my vote doesn't count then it's disenfranchisement! So they should count it.

Or, perhaps, should they follow the rules and tell me to do it right or not do it at all?
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:34 PM
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22. good point.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:29 PM
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15. MonkeyFunk there are a lot of freaks on DU
And all they do is spread propaganda and are divisive.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:33 PM
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21. Here's my issue with it...
I would have a much easier time swallowing her argument about MI and FL if she had voiced these concerns BEFORE the election. WHY didn't she bring this up before she signed that pledge or made public statements acknowledging the votes wouldn't count?

The way she has gone about sure makes it look like she's trying to just change the rules 1/2 way through because they don't suit her. It APPEARS as though she only cares about "voter disenfranchisement" when it is to her benefit.

I'd love to hear your response if you'll share it. Every other time I've asked this question all I get is crickets....
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:46 PM
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29. your post is bullshit
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 03:46 PM by goletian
its disenfranchisement. on the one hand, obama had nothing to do with fl and mi, on the other, hillary is advocating the votes not count so she can be the nominee.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:48 PM
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30. Bingo. NT
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:23 PM
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3. I did not take money from that Rezko guy..........
wait a minute, okay I took a little but gave it back........oops, I took more than I originally told you.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:24 PM
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5. Hsu you talkin about?
:rofl:
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:24 PM
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6. Hillary has no path to victory, except the Endless Circle of Bullshit.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:36 PM
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23. Ahem........
....Norman Hsu.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:44 PM
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27. LOL! Hsu, Gupta, Giustra
and oh so many more. You want to get into this, I'm thrilled to oblige you.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:25 PM
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7. It was wrong of her and Bill to think this was going to be a cake walk
I think they thought they had it before the fight started.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:25 PM
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8. Actually, there is no rule against counting them.
Nice try, fucking liar.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:27 PM
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12. STRIPPED OF DELEGATES means you don't count them. Duh.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:25 PM
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10. More BS...
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 03:29 PM by jenmito
4. Superdelegates are actually "automatic delegates."

5. "This race is about delegates."

6. "It's the BIG states that count."

7. "Caucuses don't count."

8. "Make sure you caucus after you vote in the primary (in TX). We need you to vote in both so Hillary can win this thing."

9. "Hillary won TX because she won the popular vote."
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:28 PM
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13. oh yeah
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:29 PM
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16. I'm sure there are many more.
:hi:
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Traps Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:31 PM
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17. Time for Hillary to step down before she destroys the Dems shot.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:32 PM
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19. You are Epic Fail
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:33 PM
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20. It's not endless because it comes back onto itself.
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