I miss the Adult wing of the Democratic Party! Bring back John Edwards!

[SammyWinstonJack]

:bounce:

[MadBadger]

1. John Edwards stopped going negative because it didnt poll well

He's the same as the rest.

[struggle4progress]

49. Edwards didn't run a negative campaign in 96, 04, or 08

[krawhitham]

79. and he is currently unemployed

[Muttocracy]

2. the tone of things certainly went downhill when it was down to 2 nt

[SammyWinstonJack]

3. It really did.

[Andrea]

61. It did very much

I think that was totally predictable. It's just the dynamics of a head to head argument as opposed to a group discussion. The party should have encouraged candidates to stay in, rather than helping to drive them out. It would have been a framework for developing fantastic plans. Once JRE was out, it crashed and burned.

[depakid]

4. Tell me about it

I miss his contributions to the public policy debate too.

[SammyWinstonJack]

6. So do I! We were cheated, again!

[liberalla]

52. You are so right!

When he got out, the other two slid into pared down, safe and packaged responses. They were on autopilot. He made the debate better for everyone.

The Pastor Wright debacle shocked Obama back to life. That speech was wonderful. He rose to the occasion.

I sure miss John Edwards.

[bilgewaterbill]

5. No, Thank You.

[SammyWinstonJack]

8. ...

x(

[bilgewaterbill]

18. ...

:shrug:

[SammyWinstonJack]

30. ...

:shrug: says it all.

[bilgewaterbill]

38. ....

:woohoo:
That'll say it all after the convention. There isn't one I could find for "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead!"

[thunder rising]

7. Who's that?

[Blue_In_AK]

9. You and me both...

[SammyWinstonJack]

10. Thank you!

[Double T]

11. I miss the SANE WING of the Democratic Party.

John Edwards would sure help to bring it back! Cute Yorkie!!

[SammyWinstonJack]

14. Thank you! She is my bestest friend!

[Yael]

12. I do miss his voice in the debates

Keeping the topic to the populist slant.

It is my dream to see him as AG.

[SammyWinstonJack]

15. My dream is to see him as President!

[SammyWinstonJack]

13. You all know that Edwards was for us all! He has heart!

For the People Of the People By the People! Why did we allow the corprat media and TPTB to marginalize and ridicule him? We lost out big time!

[Greylyn58]

16. I totally agree

When John Edwards left the children started a fist fight and now the Democrats will pay the price for it. They have bloodied each other and neither one of them is talking issues. So day in and day out all we get to hear is charges of racism, charges of sexism, who is more evil. I am quite disgusted and I'm not alone.

The only one who gave a damn about the poor, the helpless and the hopeless and truly wanted to correct the ills created over the last eight years is gone and we are left poorer for it.

[SammyWinstonJack]

19. Yeah we really blew it this time. Damn shame!

[greguganus]

17. Geesh...I'm in NC..you can come get him.

But the "I'm for the poor" phony Mr. Hedge Fund IS one of the highest property tax payers in this area, so you may have to fight the county tax department to remove him.
All he had was anecdotes and the people saw through his BS.

[SammyWinstonJack]

20. ...

:eyes:

[Thickasabrick]

41. So....unless you are poor and live in a shack you aren't "worthy?"

That's fucked up dude. Jesus Christ isn't running this time around.

[knight_of_the_star]

46. Fail

No, make that EPIC FAIL

[NJSecularist]

21. The adult wing of the Democratic party has only won one primary in 8 years.

You need to win to stay in.

[AllentownJake]

22. John will be Back

As one kick ass Attorney General!

Looking forward to his first day at the Justice Department...he's going to have a lot of work to do.

[SammyWinstonJack]

32. He would make a great AG but an even better President!

:bounce:

[surfermaw]

70. I'm thinking the same thing

i think he knows someting is coming down, and that is why he hasn't endorsed anyone

[Lucinda]

23. John will be Hillary's Veep.

He'll be back soon.

[SammyWinstonJack]

29. I hope so!

He'll be back soon.

[surfermaw]

71. I was thinking about him as VP but at Bill Campaign stop, the signs read Hillary & Gore

[adnelson60087]

24. I miss John Edwards so much

it just hurts to see what is becoming of our "sure thing" "historic" political season of 2008.Someone said a sucker was born every minute, but damn, did all of them have to Democrats who bought into the shiny baubles of "new" and "change" this cycle? The adult wing of the party is missing and it's showing.

[SammyWinstonJack]

27. "historic" Yeah we were played! I miss him every single day!

x(

[MissDeeds]

72. Yes we were indeed played

I miss him each and every day, too.

[Hoof Hearted]

25. If John were in the race we might have to actually talk about issues

You must be a crazy person.




that was sarcasm, btw.

[SammyWinstonJack]

28. !!!

:-)

[TheDonkey]

26. Get over yourself.

and grow up. Edwards was losing, realized this, and dropped out. I wish he would endorse someone to get his few remaining supporters to finally move on. He has, so should you.

[cascadiance]

39. The problem is that isn't about being in the race ONLY to win!

It is about being in the race to represent PEOPLE, and their issues. Edwards was kicking butt doing that!

I guess many of the newer generation that keep getting marketed the meme that all that matters is "winning" don't see this issue. I would have been happy to see him stay in the race, even if I KNEW he wasn't going to win, if I KNEW he could help be the powerbroker to put these issues on the candidate who ultimately wins' plate. And just the week before, he seemed to be comfortable playing this role as he was talking about taking his issues to the convention. I think someone pressured him out because they knew he was a threat for this. The same people that pushed him out even though he had little voter support to "win", but a lot of voter support to force some issue stance they didn't want, are the same people that are asking Hillary to stay in and muddy the waters so that these sorts of issues don't get dealt with and either we are completely distracted from them, or McCain wins, and they win!

As others in this thread have noted, unfortunately since Edwards has bowed out, the race has devolved into one personal attack after another, back and forth, and not a lot of substantive talk on issues. I'm really hoping that Obama is holding back some true grass roots agenda that he is holding back from the corporatist drones he knows would use that as a reason to push him aside like they've done Edwards, but I don't like just voting on "hope"...

I would even support Hillary carrying her campaign to the convention IFFFF she was in this race more than just for her own power, which seems obvious at this point. Maybe she's for her corporate contributors' power too, but I don't see any big issue she's a champion of for us people that would justify her hanging in there.

[Hermes Daughter]

82. Stupid donkeys...

Edwards hasn't "moved on." He's just tacking, that's all. He's still headed in the same direction. Or mission, if you prefer. Do you know how to sail into the wind? You tack and jibe. Do you really think Edwards isn't going to do what he promised? Re poverty, health care, the poor... He has a mission, not a goal to "be president" (like the two tired left-overs, endlessly yammering their virtues and the others' faults -- with no thought for the People).

And John Edwards' true supporters aren't going to "move on" either, so stop your stupid yammering, all of you... :boring:

[Nutmegger]

31. The haters were already waiting for a post like this.

R&K for John Edwards, and to us supporters.

[SammyWinstonJack]

34. I know they were.

I am an Edwards Democrat!

[Nutmegger]

42. John Edwards is the one who gives me hope!

:kick::kick::kick:

[PresidentObama]

33. I say we end the Obama/Clinton war, and nominate JOHN EDWARDS!! n/t

[SammyWinstonJack]

35. Yes!

:applause: :yourock:

[DerekJ]

36. Oh Thank God he didn't run against hillary. The poor guy.

[SammyWinstonJack]

37. Obama is glad Edwards was forced out. Lucky him.

[DerekJ]

43. Lucky Edwards.

She would have made him regret the day he was born.

[Yes We Did]

81. Can you see them warring over the apology that never came

[Zorra]

40. Adult wing means politically mature folks that understand that corporate control of

our government needs to be elimimnated or basically all else is moot?

That populist representatives of all the people like John Edwards and Dennis Kucinich are the only political leaders that seem to get it?

If that is what you mean, then by all means, bring back John Edwards.

[pamela]

44. K & R n/t

[knight_of_the_star]

45. Damn you almost made me cry!

I miss talking about POLICY and how we will HELP PEOPLE, not who lied about what spectacular bit of spin most recently! Why did this primary go from an election to American Idol redux.

[readmoreoften]

47. KICK AND REC!

I don't recognize this party anymore.

[Andrea]

63. "I don't recognize this party anymore."

Sad and true.

[balantz]

48. What crafty corporate-media salesmanship has given us the dregs we have to choose from?

I mean, how can these two even begin to measure up to John Edwards?

How is it that America has been once again manipulated into a dirty corner?

I miss John Edwards. He would have really brought a changing of the guard; a house-cleaning in our corrupted government. People must have been afraid to actually want to take America back from the clutches of the corporate oligarchy.

It is a sad state of affairs we find ourselves in.

[Hermes Daughter]

78. the same people

that brought us George Bush in 2000 are bringing us Barack Obama in 2008. We have been manipulated into a dirty corner. The party isn't really the party anymore. It's an illusion. In name only...

[LiveLiberally]

50. I don't want to "get over" John Edwards....

what I want is for the Party to get over its infantile, fratricidal mudslinging and focus on the values, policies and causes that Edwards stood up for and the people really care about.


edit for typo

[JoFerret]

51. Edwards had the best health plan and ideas

Too bad we have to settle for second best (Clinton) and distant third (Obama).

We could have had a election victory that would have REALLY led to REAL change.

Instead it looks as if we are going to have to settle for Mr. Domestic status quo.

Bloody shame!

[Penndems]

53. Is there any way we can get him to reconsider his decision?

Former Senator and Mrs. Edwards, we need you!

[Catchawave]

54. Me too....

[Freedom Train]

55. There's been speculation about handing it to Gore in the second round at the convention...

I was pretty much in the Edwards camp before he dropped out (I liked DK more, and Gravel too, but had a hard time seeing that they'd be feasible in the GE). If there's a stall among the delegates and Obama OR Hillary will both split the party, with neither's supporters voting for the other, wouldn't throwing the support to Edwards be at least a little less controversial than throwing it to Gore, who was never in the race to begin with, and whom we're not even sure wants or will accept it at all? I'm hoping it can be resolved first and foremost among the two we still have running, but Edwards could win against McCain, no question.

[cali]

56. There's nothing adult about living in a childish fantasy world

that mythologizes a politician into some kind of Saint. I support Obama, but I don't have any illusions that he's some kind of miracle worker or Saint. I hate all the cultishness whether it's Obama, Gore or Edwards. And no, he wasn't the only grownup in the race. How silly cultists are.

[GoldieAZ49]

57. I don't think you will hear from them until election day

It will be interesting to see what they say

[krabigirl]

58. Tell me about it! Someone who actually talked about progressive policies, too.

[Bettie]

59. Me too

I can't get excited about either of the two remaining candidates.

The personal attacks and mudslinging from both sides are really disturbing as is the fact that both of them seem to be perfectly happy with the status quo in terms of corporations being the most important "citizens" of our country.

It was nice to have some people (Edwards, Kucinich) who were willing to talk about those among us who are not wealthy and privileged.

[Infinite Hope]

60. Amen!. n/t

[ellisonz]

62. If you want Hillary Clinton to be the Democratic nominee...

x(

[Andrea]

64. I would add to that...

I miss the Democratic wing of the Democratic party.

I miss the non-cultist wing of the Democratic party.

I miss the capable of winning wing of the Democratic party.

[Life Long Dem]

65. Yeah it was nice watching Hillary and Obama going at it.

Wasn't it? :hi:

[Life Long Dem]

66. And the kindergarten stuff was hilarious!

:silly:

[waiting for hope]

67. I am an Edwards Democrat!

K&R! and thanks - here's another North Carolinian for change: Jim Neal http://jimnealforsenate.com/

I meet him Thursday night and he's the real deal - we need to take Liddy Dole off her pedestal.

[Greylyn58]

77. I've been to Jim Neal's website

and I'm impressed by him.

And you are right...Liddy Dole must go!!!

[merh]

68. I would have loved it if JE was still in it.

Sadly, he is not and if he were, the viciousness wouldn't be much different. nasty hair jokes, scummy lawyer comments, not a poor man, big house, hiding behind sick wife, yadayadayada.

the reality is those that support their candidates support them, those that hate them, hate them.

[backscatter712]

69. Edwards was my number two choice after Kucinich.

I would have voted for him if he didn't drop out before Super Tuesday. Respect++ for Edwards.

That said, I'm perfectly fine with supporting Obama now - he's got me sold on his campaign. He's definitely playing the adult in the election season right now.

[LWolf]

73. Gladly.

If it's still close when my primary (finally) rolls around in late May, I'll cast a vote for her, if it will help neither get a majority of delegates. That gives us the only chance to come out with a decent candidate.

I'd be glad to see him nominated.

[Beaverhausen]

74. I miss Elizabeth - I miss John. I want to see them on the White House lawn

haven't said that for a while...

[RestoreGore]

75. I miss him in this too n/t

[RBInMaine]

76. GOOD man, but he's out, that's it, bye bye, no more pipedream posts please.

[Yes We Did]

80. I like Edwards but... he, like Clinton are part of the problem...

He apologized for his war vote but he also continued this dumb "blame poor people" policy march with his vote on the bankruptcy bill. It undermined his message of lifting this country out of poverty. In many respects he suffers the fate of Clinton... he has an inability to learn from his mistakes. If he endorsed Clinton he will put the feather in his cap of "lets be dumb one more time".

You can't say you want to fight for Americans and endorse a known war monger and someone who will have lobbyists running your white house. You sound hypocritical preaching against this action then endorsing the candidate who votes in lockstep with Bush.

[Hermes Daughter]

83. They're not pipedreams, Maine

and he's not out. He's still here and he'll make more of a difference in the long run than either of the corporate shills.

And if we can raise enough to buy millions of i-pods, we can buy the Obama votes, give the nomination to Edwards, close out McCain, and save the country. Gore saves the planet... and we all live happily ever after.

This is the FINAL WORD. Good night and sweet dreams, you princes of Maine.O8)

[Seabiscuit]

84. Hell Yeah!

:woohoo: