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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:50 PM
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Why Is Hillary Clinton Lying?
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Two weeks ago, I wrote a story that observed a disturbing trend in Hillary Clinton’s campaign – her growing tendency to stretch the truth, twist what her chief rival was saying and then rely on her supporters to go on the offensive against you if you spoke up.

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To pump up her mostly ceremonial role as First Lady into experience as a national-security crisis manager, Clinton began embellishing a 1996 trip to war-torn Bosnia that she claimed was too dangerous for her husband, then-President Bill Clinton, to undertake.

Yet, even with the veracity of her account in question, Clinton stretched the truth even further.

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2008/032608Parry.shtml
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:50 PM
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1. Is her mouth moving?
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:52 PM
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2. You mean like BO and his mentor
Ah yes, he would leave now, but sat there for twenty years? You buy that line of crap?? Seriously??
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:57 PM
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6. When Bill invited Wright to the White House
to cover for his sleazy affair, it probably gave Obama the impression that Rev Wright was a national moral leader. Not everybody's pastor has had Presidential invites.

Just more Clinton hypocrisy.

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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:02 PM
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9. Yes, BO's pastor problem must also be Clinton's fault;
everything else is, why not that too?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:05 PM
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10. There is no problem
If he isn't a problem for the Clintons, he isn't a problem for Obama. Period. Stop being a hypocrite.
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:23 PM
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17. Hi sandnsea....
cold enough for ya? We had snow overnight here in Coos Bay...brrr!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:28 PM
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18. It's weird, isn't it?
I don't think we got any snow, unless I didn't get up early enough to see it. But it sure has been cold for a few days. My flowers are so unhappy. I hope this doesn't wipe them all out.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:10 PM
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12. Can't Tonya supporters answer a question about her without invoking her...
...opponent? That'd be the honest thing to do.

NGU.


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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:12 PM
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13. Makes sense to me.
I sat through years of idiotic sermons and didn't leave the church because of them.

And if people left their church because of the personal actions of priests/ministers, there wouldn't be a Catholic left in the church today.

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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 07:24 PM
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23. I left the church ...

I left the church and it's still humming along as if I wasn't there. It doesn't matter either way.

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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 07:23 PM
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22. What crap ???

America is controlled by rich white people? 9/11 is blowback???

The only offensive thing the man said was "God Damn America". These people cherry picked all those sermons and this is ALL they came up with. That's pretty lame, pretty lame. And ... it's not even things Barack Obama has said.

Now look at Hillary. She's up on stage "remembering" things that did not happen. Either she is deranged, or she is telling a bald faced lie.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 07:30 PM
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:53 PM
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3. It's habitual
she can't help it.

Or so it's been said and so it would appear.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:54 PM
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4. To an ambitious politician lying is a necessity not a choice.
“Now, the man on the stand he wants my vote,
He's a-runnin' for office on the ballot note.
He's out there preachin' in front of the steeple,
Tellin' me he loves all kinds-a people.
(He's eatin' bagels
He's eatin' pizza
He's eatin' chitlins
He's eatin' bullshit!)”

Bob Dylan
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:55 PM
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5. It's a slippery slope for Hillary
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 02:55 PM by C_U_L8R
one lie leads to another and another and another
as we are unfortunately seeing right before our eyes
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 07:46 PM
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27. And before we knew it..hilary
was sliding into the rocky abyss.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:58 PM
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7. Simple. Because most of the time...
some people will believe her. Nobody else counts.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:01 PM
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8. What was she thinking?
She should know perfectly well that out of the millions of people who listen to her statements, there are at least a few who'll fact-check them. Why'd she make the statement knowing the risks?

She told that story about sniper-fire in Bosnia. Someone dug up the CNN footage of her trip. She lied and got caught.

She's got noone to blame but herself for this.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:17 PM
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15. It's worse than that
The story just defied common sense -- whether or not there was film footage of it.

Think about it. What military commander or Secret Service agent in charge is going to allow the first lady and her teenage daughter to fly into the middle of a firefight? To quote Poppy Bush: "Not gonna happen." What a career ender that is. If a Navy captain bumps his ship into another vessel, his career is over. What happens to you if the first daughter takes a bullet in the head on your watch because you put her into a firefight?

You don't need to be very bright to see that this story was preposterous on the face of it.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:09 PM
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11. What Lies?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:14 PM
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14. Great article.
Exactly how I feel.

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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:17 PM
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16. Why is the sky blue?
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:32 PM
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19. I've been saying this from the beginning as to why I won't vote for her even in the VP slot,
and I'm still amazed at the fact that so many Dems seem to support her BS and haven't the slightest care that they have become the very "neo-cons" that hey supposedly despise, and more importantly that DU that was founded in reaction to those neo-cons, actually have continued to allow them to participate here in the manner that they do.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:42 PM
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20. She isn't lying -- anymore than Obama is.
Cite me a lie that Hillary has told and I will place it alongside one that Obama has told, and we'll see which is worse.

For example, up against the example of Hillary lying when she claimed to have been under sniper fire in Bosnia (which she later had to retract), I'll cite the example of Obama lying when he first told the press how much Rezko had donated to his campaigns (an amount he later had to retract, then after he lied again, had to retract yet again).

Hillary's lie had to do with personal self-aggrandizement. So when the truth finally came out, she was made to look vain, deceptive, self-important and silly -- as a PERSON.

Obama's lie had to do with political favors and influence, as well as his own personal honesty. So when the truth finally came out, he was made to look devious, deceptive and dishonest -- as a PUBLIC OFFICIAL

Or, rather, he would have been made to look like that, if the wingnut MSM (Obama's biggest supporters) didn't 'spike' the Obama lie and lead with the Hillary lie for three-four days in a row.

What IS news is what the news business SAYS is news.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:48 PM
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21. She's tired
Can't she lay down and rest a bit?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 07:29 PM
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24. The media obsesses about Obama's pastor, meantime, an actual candidate LIES
about her experience, which is the heart of her campaign, and it gets a fraction of the coverage.

But, guess what, people are making her pay the price if you look at the polls this week and showing they're not going to rolled by PastorGate. Pinch me. Is common sense breaking out in America?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 07:43 PM
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26. Thanks for this article from The Baltimore Sun, keep it real.
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 07:45 PM by zidzi
More details are coming out to piece together a time line on hilary's Bosnia lie.


"In a fact-checking article on March 22, the Washington Post’s Michael Dobbs concluded that “Clinton's tale of landing at Tuzla airport ‘under sniper fire’ and then running for cover is simply not credible. Photographs and video of the arrival ceremony, combined with contemporaneous news reports, tell a very different story.”

Dobbs awarded Clinton the maximum of “four Pinocchios” for telling a “whopper.”

Yet, instead of immediately retracting the false account and apologizing, the Clinton campaign went after Dobbs and the Post, trying to browbeat them into retreat on the story.

Lissa Muscatine, one of Clinton’s speechwriters in 1996 who was on the trip, accused Dobbs of failing to provide a full picture of what took place. “We were told that a welcoming ceremony on the tarmac might be canceled because of sniper fire in the hills surrounding the air strip,” she said."


So, did lissa muscatine write the false account of hilary, chelsea, and Sinbad's trip and hilary just delivered the lines or did hilary come up with it herself?

If our press were free these would be burning questions in the headlines across the Nation..asked of the Dem candidate who stops at nothing to keep clawing.


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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:04 PM
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28. same reason birds fly and fish swim ..... it's what they do. n/t
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