Even though I'm severly disappoined w/HRC & her campaign, I don't agree w/those telling her to quit

[HardWorkingDem]

I just want her to change the demeanor of her campaign and the tactics she is using against Obama.

I don't agree with the other politicians demanding she drop out at this time. Maybe after a couple of more primaries and especially if she loses in PA, but until then, Leahy and the others should just quit mumbling about her dropping out and instead call her up and privately tell her to knock off the cheap shots.

[BeatleBoot]

1. Al Gore and Howard Dean would agree

[bunnies]

2. She isnt going to quit.

No matter who calls for it. This entire argument is moot.

[Andy823]

3. If she stopped the whole

"Kitchen sink" tactic, and got back on discussing the "real" issues, I would have no problem with her staying in the race. What I am sick of is the mud slinging, and fabrications of her experience.

[Window]

6. She also needs to stop lying. That sniper-gate lie took the cake.

I still can't believe she told a lie like that...on 3 or 4 different occasions.

[goclark]

17. Don't stop Hillary ~ throw the living room at the people

that get in your way.

Don't share and don't worry about telling the truth.

Keep it up Hillary, it's your way or the highway.

:spank:

[mrJJ]

4. The Hillary Deathwatch

The Hillary Deathwatch
Deathwatch: Down and on the way out.


Hillary Clinton is as good as dead. This became the consensus over the past week, when the media awoke en masse to the dual reality that 1) Clinton can't close the pledged-delegate gap and 2) Obama has her beat in the popular vote. But the Clinton campaign shows no signs of slowing--she said herself she's prepared to compete for at least three more months. So the question now is not just "How dead is she?" but "When will she realize it?"

In the tradition of Slate's Saddameter (gauging the likelihood of invading Iraq), the Clintometer (measuring the chances of a Lewinsky-related ousting), and the Gonzo-meter (charting the attorney general's demise), we bring you the Hillary Deathwatch, a daily update on Hillary Clinton's dwindling chances of winning the Democratic nomination.

http://www.slate.com/id/2187558/

[democrattotheend]

5. I agree 100%

I want her to change her tone but calls for her to drop out are premature. I am afraid Leahy's call for her to drop out will end up hurting Obama, since she seems to do best when people think it could be the end for her. I think that's due to a little bit of a gender effect...I am passionate about Obama but as a woman, I sometimes feel guilty for not supporting the first woman with a chance to become president, and I think I will be sad if the time comes for her to drop out. So I wonder if some women who only lean toward Obama end up voting for Clinton for that same reason.

[cbayer]

10. I think you speak for a lot of people.

If she were Condoleeza Rice, this would be different. But Clinton is not only the first women with a chance, she is a woman who shares my ideologies (as does Obama). If she loses this or drops out, it will be a very sad day for a lot of women whether they are for her or against her at this point.

[Yael]

14. A sad day for women?

Hardly. The last thing I want is to be associated with the likes of Hillary Clinton. I will even posit that she is doing more harm than good to other female politicians. She keeps up this path and she will set the chances for a truly viable female victor back by 30 years.

[cbayer]

16. I said a lot of women.

You may disagree, and that's your prerogative. It will be a sad day for me and many women I know. In my view, she has been inspiring and, like many before, has opened a very heavy door that it will be impossible to close. I salute her bravery and her strength. I do not think she has in anyway damaged the chances for a female victor in the near future. Quite the opposite.

[HardWorkingDem]

19. The tricky road for female politicians is far harder to navigate than for men..

And I think HRC is a classic example of that. If she's too tough, she's seen as a "bitch" and if she shows any emotion, she's temperamental.

I mean, who is the ideal female candidate? A subservient Libby Dole or Kay Hutchinson?

Though I am very angry and disappointed with HRC, I would take her over any other female politician. I just can't stand the scorched earth tactics that she keeps using.

[loyalsister]

7. Agree K&R

She has every right to compete in this election. And more importantly, her supporters have a right to vote for her and should show their support as citizens and democrats.

Unfortunately, she has a right to run a dirty campaign. But, citizens do not have an obligation to contribute and pretend that it is simply honest campaigning.

At some point people seem to have given up civility. That is what we need to recover.

[LiveLiberally]

8. K&R -- I agree....

I admit that this campaign is dragging on to the point of exhaustion, but that is neither Clinton nor Obama's fault. And Clinton has every right to remain in the campaign. There has been a lot of sports analogies about this race, but the fact remains that a football team that is down in the 4th quarter DOES NOT simply concede and end the game prematurely. Clinton's prospects are dimming, but my respect for her fortitude and conviction grows AS her chances of victory diminish. If she can avoid the overly personal mudslinging, her tenaciousness now will stand her in good stead irrespective of what trajectory her career eventually takes.

[sunnybrook]

9. Pressuring her to drop out is counter productive

I wish she would change the tone of the campaign, but I also wish the Easter Bunny was real. At this point they have obviously decided that going negative is the only chance she has. But Obama supporters that clamor for her to drop out are short sighted because the Clintons always bounce back at times when it looks like they are being bullied or victimized. This could backfire. I will be a little sad at her campaign ending but it is surely only a matter of time.

[RazBerryBeret]

11. I agree!

she can stay in as long as she wants, as long as she plays fair. That's why there are referees in sporting events. The win at all costs can't be tolerated....by any of us...

[KansasVoter]

12. OK, Please explain in detail how she could win. Seriously.

[HardWorkingDem]

20. Well, with the wonderful world of American politics...

who knows what could happen in the next few weeks? I mean come on, how many people expected Spitzer to do the dive he did? (And I'm not saying Obama will do such a thing - it's just you never know).

Heck, I just heard she is only behind in the popular vote by 700k. Recall, Gore beat Bush by only 500k.

[Thickasabrick]

13. I agree - even if there is a "perceived" idea that the Obama camp

forced her to quit if she did quit on her own, there will be many people that will be so bitter they will stay home. I think we can come together - but everyone needs to be more patient and let it work itself out.

[FogerRox]

15. Why is HRC staying in a race that was lost on feb 4th ?

Possibly destroying her chances at a senate re-election in NY.


Puh-leaze.

[KittyWampus]

18. she isn't GOING to changer her demeanor. She LOST TEXAS. I think some DU'ers are just dense.

and that's putting it mildly.

[HardWorkingDem]

22. Not dense, but...

who's job is it to end a race? A pundit's? A politician's? Or the process? Yes, her chances are slim and none, but right now it is pretty close. Besides, in presidential politics, whether it is liked or not, there are two chances for the dirt to be thrown and stick: in the primary and then again in the general. And even though her tactics are making me sick, she is not doing anything that the Rethuglicans won't be doing in the general. And anyone who doubts that is, um, the dense one.

[Alexander]

21. I agree. If she wasn't so busy trashing Obama, not as many people would want her to quit.