HEH?-OBAMA Likens His Foreign Policy To That of George Bush Sr., JFK, RONNIE REAGAN!!??

[Orwellian_Ghost]

Obama likens his foreign policy to that of Bush Sr., JFK, Reagan

By The Associated Press

Senator Barack Obama said Friday he would return the country to the more traditional foreign policy efforts of past presidents, such as George H.W. Bush, John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan.

At a town hall event at a local high school gymnasium, Obama praised George H.W. Bush - father of the president - for the way he handled the first Gulf War: with a large coalition and carefully defined objectives.

Obama began a six-day bus tour through Pennsylvania, the largest remaining primary prize in the contest with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination. Sen. John McCain is the Republican nominee-in-waiting.

"The truth is that my foreign policy is actually a return to the traditional bipartisan realistic policy of George Bush's father, of John F. Kennedy, of, in some ways, Ronald Reagan, and it is George Bush that's been naive and it's people like John McCain and, unfortunately, some Democrats that have facilitated him acting in these naive ways that have caused us so much damage in our reputation around the world," he said.

Obama faced criticism in January from Clinton and then-challenger John Edwards for saying Reagan had changed the trajectory of American politics - and that Republicans had been the party of ideas for the last decade or more.

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=969594&contrassID=1&subContrassID=1

[lapfog_1]

1. Nothing wrong with a bipartisan realistic

foreign policy... he is excluding the neocons and their dreams of empire.

[Orwellian_Ghost]

5. When you say "bi-partisan realistic"

what you are actually saying is "Triangulation."

Do you know that?

Do you understand the terminology?

Do you understand the history of that?

Do you doubt that?

If so check into B. Clinton and Z. Biggy.

Great that you are getting played ain't it?

[shadowknows69]

9. I'm voter for the lesser of two triangulators in this one

[Orwellian_Ghost]

15. Laughing

And here in Never-Never Amerika folkz think they have choices.

[lapfog_1]

18. Not as great as putting you on ignore. - n/t

[Swamp Rat]

23. I have a feeling we're all "getting played."

Including you and I. :D

[PurityOfEssence]

2. Prematurely fighting the general election didn't work out too well for Senator Clinton...

but hubris will take one on odd tacks.

His repeated citing of Ronald Reagan is like nails on a chalkboard to me; the man was a dick.

[leftofcool]

7. I wonder if Obama remembers contragate?

[Sulawesi]

3. From hillaryclinton.com...

But no president can do it alone. She must break recent tradition, cast cronyism aside and fill her cabinet with the best people, not only the best Democrats, but the best Republicans as well.. We’re confident she will do that. Her list of favorite presidents - Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Truman, George H.W. Bush and Reagan - demonstrates how she thinks.

[Forkboy]

4. LOL...end of thread.

:)

[dsc]

6. That was an extremely poorly written and misleading article

She was asked not which Presidents she admired but what traits in Presidents she did admire. She mentioned one trait about Reagan, and thus his name was on that list. But that is way different than admiring a President. I actually admired Reagan's dealing with his Altsheimers and really amdire Nancy's dealing with it, but that doesn't mean I admire his Presidency.

[DerekJ]

11. That’s the point exactly. Obama likes certain traits about the Regan’s foreign policy.

How is that misleading!!! :wtf: it's the OP that's misleading. The poster you are replying to, just showed that Hillary admires certain traits about Regan too.

END OF STORY.

[Sulawesi]

12. She put the article on her web site...

and it seems clearly written enough...

[dsc]

17. It claims she admires Reagan as a President

when she didn't. As to posting the article, I don't know why they did that. I wouldn't have.

[Sulawesi]

22. It says on her web site that Reagan is one of her favorite presidents.

But I am supposed to think that some chap on a message board knows better?

I actually think it is a tempest in a teapot, but it is also BS to constantly get on Obama over things like this.

[Cant trust em]

26. Chap. There's an underused word that I'll help you with reviving.

Not bad.

[Orwellian_Ghost]

8. Geez

I should have posted the usual caveat:

*From a Non-Hillary Person.

Big diff huh?

How's it feel to know you're getting played?

A general question.

[Sulawesi]

14. I don't understand what you mean. getting played?

[FrenchieCat]

10. Wrong.....

April 08 edition of the Prospect:

Cover story here - http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_obama_doctrine

[Nickster]

13. Great article. That's what I like about him, he's a big picture guy instead of just throwing bandaid

s on a problem and hoping things get better.

[Orwellian_Ghost]

16. I've read the entire thing

Amazing isn't it that anyone could actually title the article as such and many others would believe that there ever has been any such "challenge" put forth by Obama (or Hillary or McCrazy).

Maybe you could help me and point specifically to Obama's "Challenges to the Foreign Policy Establishment."

All it shows is that how even a centrist-right foreign policy such as is proposed by the Obama camp is considered "radical" in the current political climate.

What speaks volumes here is how the Obama adulants suck this stuff up ignoring all political and historical context.

[depakid]

19. Impressive, isn't it?

Sycophants pretty much hear what they want to hear, though I have to admit, I sometimes enjoy the creativity in their rationalizations.

[FrenchieCat]

24. Obama adulants suck this stuff up?

Suck on this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYBaiXQoI5Q then vote for Nader, or what-E-ver.

[pocoloco]

20. Wow! Goodby Condi

Hello Susan!

[Rydz777]

21. Does "a more traditional foreign policy" mean out of Iraq NOW? eom

[anonymous171]

25. JFK HAD SUCH BAD FOREIGN POLICY!

[stillcool]

27. I got no story at the link... n/t

[gaspee]

28. Not a democrat

But he sure has fooled a lot of people, hasn't he?

He's in it for personal power and gain, just like the rest of them. But the true believers will never see it. Shee-it, the Dimson true believers still think *he's* great.

[cooolandrew]

29. Samantha Power explains his policy here.Not like senior to me.(before the "m" word thing). Link...

http://www.members.aol.com/cooolandrew2/outstanding.mp3




He's saying sensible stuff to cover the HRC vote that may stay at home.

[Political Heretic]

30. Why Obama is exactly what we need:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5314365&mesg_id=5314365

[Vinca]

31. I was no fan of Ronald Reagan's, but it was during his presidency

a certain wall came down. 41 saved Kuwait, our ally, from being overrun by Iraq. JFK stood strong during the Cuban Missile Crisis - a picture of courage by any stretch of the imagination. Bipartisan is not a bad thing. It's the only way to overcome our current gridlock.