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youknowmenotdlc Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:33 AM
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Up is down, Black is white, bad is good as Hillary courts R.M. Scaife
Richard Mellon Scaife, scourge of truth and enemy of Democrats everywhere, a man who spent millions funding the right wing echo chamber designed to undermine our institutions of government for the sole purpose of enriching himself and his freinds is now buddies with Hillary.

First Ruppert, now RMS.

Hillary has chosen to court some rather nasty wingnuts recently and worse these wingnuts are the worst kind because they prepare the soil of US public opinion to recieve such seeds of the evil that the Limbaughs, Hannitys and Rushs of the world put out their every damn day.

If I was a Hillary supporter I would be pretty F--kin pissed about it.
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:37 AM
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1. Hillarious supporters.....
Like the freepers, they cannot and will not see the truth.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:38 AM
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2. ........and what is the truth sweetheart?
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:41 AM
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4. Hillary will do anything to get power.
Even rip our party apart.
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noobie2 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:57 AM
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14. I might not end up voting in the GE
I was originally a (Kucinich was my first choice, but his elect-ability isn't as good as Hillary's) Hillary supporter (NJ) primarily because I didn't know Obama. I thought the Clinton years were OK. NAFTA and other issues did not ring well with me, but those years showed overall prosperity for most people including my family. During the NJ primaries my family voted for Hillary. I didn't get a chance to vote because I had moved and didn't register/or make it back home in time to vote. I would have voted for Hillary though. After super Tuesday, I took a second look at Obama. I have to admit that I'm impressed. I enjoy to hear him talk. I personally think he would be qualified, definitely more than the dope we have in office now. So I thought, at least every single candidate is better than the one we have now (democrat or republican). I haven't seen a state of the union address since '03 because hearing W talk is like an ensemble of chalkboard scratching attempting to play Beethoven's Fifth and getting toothpicks jammed under my finger nails while being maced. Anyway, I have definitely switched camps. I am an Obama supporter now. If my family could do it over, we would. This campaign is painful to watch. Hillary mocking Obama and by association myself is disconcerting. I don't want someone as Machiavellian as Hillary in the White House. She reminds me of Bush in that matter. In the General Election, if Hillary is the nominee, I can't vote for her. I wouldn't vote for McCain either. I'll find something to do on that day. I find Hillary doing just about anything to win the white house. I am not going to cast a vote for someone who mocks her own party constituency. At this point, I would not put it past her to offer to become McCain's VP. I just don't trust her. I was a fan of her husband, but I just can't get excited over her anymore.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:11 AM
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16. Take a breath {{whew}} Welcome to DU
Be careful thinking John McCain would be better than Bush. He wanted to go into Iraq earlier with more force and will probably stay longer. He is like Bush on steroids. And he has a MAJOR anger problem. Some people have noted they seem to see signs of dementia also, such as answering questions not asked, staring off into space etc.
This AM on Stephanopolis' show his economic policies (what there are) were compared to Hoover. So McCain is a wonderful combination of Bush and Hoover's policies. Not sure how much worse he could get.
I often wonder if Bill Clinton supports everything she does. I can't imagine he does.
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noobie2 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:11 PM
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17. You're probably right
You're probably right, but McCain does not have the science aversion that Bush has. My biggest gripe with Bush is his anti-science, anti-reality position. Bush just denies something, and I guess in his mind, and it vanishes out of existence. McCain seems more reasonable in that arena than W, and that is no small thing.
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:41 AM
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6. ^Case in point^
Oblivion is a familiar land to Hillarians.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:08 AM
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13. Ask Tonya's buddies Sciafe, Murdoch, Limbaugh, Sanctimonium, Inhofe, and Brownback.
That list should give you a pretty good idea of what's the truth.

NGU.


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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:56 AM
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11. The truth is there are no WMD's in Iraq.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:57 AM
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12. Please enlighten us BobRossi
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:39 AM
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3. But.., but..., but.., they worship Hillary. Hillary can do no wrong.
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 09:44 AM by RC
Hillery will be our Queen. She already is their's.
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:41 AM
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5. Instead of defending those actions, they'll...
...just come up with some obscure and already debunked Obama reference in a "two wrongs make a right" type way
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youknowmenotdlc Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:46 AM
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In many ways kissing up to Scaife and Murdock is worse than
kissing up to Limbag or Hannity.

Those guys are just the paid mouthpieces of the right wing, while RMS is the one writing the checks.

The guy helps fund a wide variety of right wing policy groups and was even stroking out the checks to fund the infamous "Arkansas project".

How could she?

It's as bad as Mcain hugging Bush after Rove slimed him in the 2000 election.
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:54 AM
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10. Exactly. There's no defense
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:45 AM
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7. B-but Obama praised Reagan!
Not really, of course. But do you remember the shit storm Hillary supporters raised around here at the time?

On This Week, Kerry just noted that it was during the Pittsburgh Tribune interviews that Hillary first personally raised the Wright issue. So apparently, she was just waiting to talk to a right-wing rag in order to launch her rw-style attacks.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:46 AM
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8. Let's not forget her (R) Senate prayer group buddies Sanctimonium and Inhofe.
NGU.


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ecdab Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:47 AM
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9. It's just Wiki, but here's a low down on the rather lowly R.M. Scaife
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Mellon_Scaife

He is certainly not a person any Democrat should get in bed with, most notably a Clinton. I think this is another sign of the wheels completely falling of the Clinton fund raising campaign, because I certainly can not think of another reason why Hillary would turn to R.M. Scaife other than complete desperation (combined with a willingness to compromise core principals in order to try and win a pyrrhic victory).
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:00 AM
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15. Not suprisingingly
not a single supporter here to try and defend these actions.

Blinders activated!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:12 PM
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18. It's funny how she chooses to portray herself as a "fighter" when instead she is a collaborator.
Bi-partisanship is not a bad thing. Just saying...
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:40 PM
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19. should I go independent or green?
:shrug:
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youknowmenotdlc Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 03:22 PM
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20. If this is about money it's especially disconcerting
taking Scaife's and Murdock's money means that they will at the very least have her ear and at worst means she has agreed to egt some things done that they want.
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