The best thing happened after Clinton's gaffe on Bosnia:

[MethuenProgressive]

Barack Obama finally found out there was a country in Europe called Bosnia-Herzegovina.

"He (Obama) chairs the subcommittee on Europe. ... He's held not one substantive hearing to do oversight."
Dormant while Obama campaigns

In one of the more pointed barbs in a Feb. 26, 2008, debate, Sen. Hillary Clinton charged that Sen. Barack Obama has been so busy running for president that he hasn’t done much of anything as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs.

“I also have heard Senator Obama refer continually to Afghanistan, and he references being on the Foreign Relations Committee,” Clinton said. “He chairs the Subcommittee on Europe. It has jurisdiction over NATO. NATO is critical to our mission in Afghanistan. He’s held not one substantive hearing to do oversight, to figure out what we can do to actually have a stronger presence with NATO in Afghanistan."

Congressional records show, and spokesmen for several subcommittee members confirm, the subcommittee has not held any policy hearings since Obama was appointed chair in early 2007. The subcommittee’s jurisdiction includes “all matters, policies and problems concerning the continent of Europe, including the European member states of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.”

The chair sets the agenda for a subcommittee and Obama could have asked to hold a hearing on NATO and its role in Afghanistan.

The Clinton campaign put out a statement reiterating Clinton’s comments to reinforce the theme that Obama is more about talk than action.
“Given the opportunity to take the reins of leadership and shape two critical areas of U.S. foreign policy — Afghanistan and our alliances in Europe — Senator Obama has done next to nothing,” the statement said.

Obama’s campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

So let’s look at Clinton’s statement:
“He chairs the subcommittee on Europe.” Yep.
“It has jurisdiction over NATO.” Yep.
“NATO is critical to our mission in Afghanistan. He’s held not one substantive hearing to do oversight, to figure out what we can do to actually have a stronger presence with NATO in Afghanistan.” Yep.

Clinton is right when she says Obama’s subcommittee has been largely dormant while Obama has campaigned for president. We rate her comment True.

[joeybee12]

1. Well, Clinton's gaffee didn't have legs...like some BO supporters

thought...and the reaction by the media at times...the Tonya Harding of politics...will backfire because they don't know the meaning of balance in their reporting of all things Clinton, and many people take offense with that.

[MethuenProgressive]

4. Not knowing your Pastor of 20 years was a bigot is the bigger gaffe.

BO's Rovian tactics are shameful.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

5. Or it could be that everyone is so used to Clinton lying they've come to expect it.

I'm guessing you've never been in the military if you think making up a bullshit story about being in combat isn't a big deal.

[MethuenProgressive]

8. Giving Obama a pass on lying about his racist church makes you feel like you belong?

Whatever makes you happy.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. Dishonoring the soldiers who were charged with your safety and your daughters is okey dokey?

Again, I can tell you've never worn a uniform. It's okay, but please don't speak of what you don't understand.

As for Rev. Wright, US Marine Corps veteran, the man has decades of experience doing good things for his community. He's no bigot and you are not fit to shine his shoes.

[MethuenProgressive]

15. Pastor Wright, bigot and racist, isn't fit to be in the same room as children.

I can tell you hate the military, it's so obvious from your posturing.
Without a google window open, you'd be unable to hold a conversation about our armed forces.

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[MethuenProgressive]

17. You can love Bigot and racist Pastor "God DAMN America" Wright all you want.

You can hate the military all you want, but I won't join you.
Our military has fought and died for your right to support bigots and racists.
Aren't you glad you live in the "US of KKK-A" your beloved America hating Pastor hates?

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[MethuenProgressive]

21. "Disgusting, bigoted bullshit." That sums up Pastor Wright completely, cali.

Glad you've see the light.

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[MethuenProgressive]

27. Go scream "God DAMN America!" on a military base.

You'll probably find out how few in the military think that's a fine thing to scream.


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[MethuenProgressive]

24. That's the only uniform you've ever worn, isn't it?

Nice fanny pack, catburgler! Is that were you keep your hatred of America?
But, how'd you know I carried that anti-Bush poster?

[roguevalley]

39. got news. you don't fuck with the military in this country anymore.

you don't use them and walk away unscathed. For those of us with family who were in bosnia, there will be no forgiving. There are millions of people who find her lies about bosnia an affirmation of what they saw over ten years. Her negatives are in the toilet and she has only herself to blame. The idiot.

Things have changed. You can't fuck with the military anymore, especially if you are a dem.

[MethuenProgressive]

40. So, screaming "GOD DAMN AMERICA!!" is saying nice things about our military?

Please, do go on.

[cali]

2. good for you. I think it's just adorable that

you're trying to turn lemons into lemonade.

[MethuenProgressive]

3. Thanks! I really admired the way that

you've tried to spin Wright into Right!
:hi:

[tabasco]

6. It wasn't a gaffe and it wasn't a single incident.

H. Clinton told her phony war story several times.

She continued lying about it until the video came out.

[goldcanyonaz]

7. As did Obama in regards to never being at a controversial sermon.

He would never have admitted to anything if someone didn't have proof that he were there on those days.

But, a lie is only a lie around here if Clinton is the candidate in question.

[tabasco]

11. Making shit up is all the proof you need. n/t

[MethuenProgressive]

10. Has Obama been to Bosnia? It's in Europe, y'know.

How many European counties has he been to?

[tabasco]

12. Yes, I hear the place is full of snipers.

[VolcanoJen]

9. Dictionary.com is your friend.

gaffe also gaff (gāf) Pronunciation Key
n.
A clumsy social error; a faux pas: "The excursion had in his eyes been a monstrous gaffe, a breach of sensibility and good taste" (Mary McCarthy).
A blatant mistake or misjudgment.

lie Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, lied, ly·ing.
–noun 1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3. an inaccurate or false statement.


Now, tell me... when Clinton told her Tuzla story on at least four seperate occassions, was she making a "clumsy social error; a faux pas," or was she making "a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive"?

[Vinca]

14. The best thing for McCain came after Clinton's "gaffe" on Bosnia:

the third episode of Clinton telling this whopper to an audience meant McCain had the best commercial a campaign could have if Clinton is the nominee. On one hand we have McCain, the Navy pilot and POW. On the other we have a first lady who claims to be dodging sniper fire when there is none, demeaning the service of those who do. And she told this LIE 3 separate times.

[OzarkDem]

18. Obama's ignorance of foreign policy is frightening, seriously

No one wants a "blank slate" in the Oval Office who doesn't know good foreign policy advice from bad.

[anonymous171]

25. lol Foreign Policy is a repug point. She will lose that way.

But I hope she continues with it. That way Obama can make headway w/ rural, uneducated voters in PA who don't give a shit about Bosnia.

[OzarkDem]

31. Obams's inexperience will deter any voter

and pushing him into the GE against McCain with such a serious deficit will be disaster for Dems. But apparently you don't support Dems, so that must not be an issue for you.

[MethuenProgressive]

26. Obama should thank Hillary for taking the heat off PastorGate, RezkoGate, and MichelleGate.

I Hope BO sent her flowers!

[anonymous171]

28. Hillary should thank Obama for not attacking her as she has attacked him.

[MethuenProgressive]

32. After his Swiftboating of the Clintons on race in SC, how much lower could he go?

I'm sure Pastor Wright approved.

[anonymous171]

35. Lewinsky, Hsu, NAFTA (using the first lady schedules as proof she was involved)

He could destroy her in weeks.

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[MethuenProgressive]

30. Not surprised you've never changed!

Consistency, that's you all over!

[Emillereid]

29. The Bosnia 'gaffe' was no gaffe - it was a despicable, conscious, cold-hearted LIE!!!

[OzarkDem]

33. Obama is less than experienced in foreign policy

and that alone should disqualify him from running as the Dem candidate.

[MethuenProgressive]

36. He had a chance - given a plum commitee to chair - and he voted Present instead.

He never wanted to work this Senate gig - he defrauded Illinois.

[Emillereid]

38. It was a sub-committee and it's not like either Clinton or Obama have much time of

late to be active Senators. So cut the crap.

[Emillereid]

37. I will trust Obama's intelligent judgment about world events over HIllary's

hallucinated warrior 'experience' any day. She doesn't have any real foreign policy experience outside the Senate - she simply borrows her husband's resume. She's a fraud.

Most of our best presidents hadn't a whole lot of inside the beltway 'experience' either, but they brought with them a wiser perspective.

[MethuenProgressive]

34. Hillary "lies" but Obama simply "errs...."

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