Clinton Debts By Vender

[Life Long Dem]

The list is just too long to scroll through here. From FEC http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M2/C00431569/D_DEBTS_C00431569.html

[C_U_L8R]

1. Clarence Beeks !!!???

again ????

[screembloodymurder]

2. Is that the same Beeks that got Dan?

FGS! LOL.

[C_U_L8R]

7. Yes the one who ended up in the monkey suit hahaha

On a serious note, I can't believe The Clintons owe so much to Aetna.
I was late on one Cobra payment with those folks and they cut me right off.
No mercy. And I was displaced because of 9-11 at the time (living in BPC)
and I gotta say Hillary did NOTHING to help. Nothing.

Any vendor would be a fool not to get their money upfront from Hillary...
and if you are an employee of the campaign... well, you should know better.

[JBoy]

24. LOL!

[izzybeans]

3. This aren't outstanding are they?

I'd be interested to see who spends more on pr consultants. PR firms are about as clean and efficient as a sloppy drunken janitor. I hope they work to minimize their influence and spend their resources on the ground. These debts to strategists and pr firms look like the bulk of what she spends.

[Debi]

28. Look at the school districts, county fair grounds, grocery stores

those aren't PR firms.

My IOWA county fair grounds is owed over two thousand dollars, my local college perfoming arts center is owed a thousand dollars my Hy-Vee grocery store corp. is owed $15,000. As the Clinton campaign continues to NOT pay these bills the tax payers and tuition payers and grocery buyers DO.

Why should I fund the Clinton camps events?

[izzybeans]

35. How many of these are Outstanding (unpaid) debts?

I know they have quite a few but are these the unpaid debts or just all the debts paid or not.

Just curious. Because I want to know who they are stiffing as well.

[tammywammy]

38. These are unpaid debts I believe

[izzybeans]

40. Wow there were so many I had a hard time thinking they all could of been.

This is horrible news.

I'm sure Penn's cashed in however.

[tammywammy]

43. It's disturbing

So many to schools and even to Aetna! I know if my company was late on a payment to Aetna we would have insurance.

A lot of these are small companies too, they need the money.

[crankychatter]

4. k/r

k/r

[Skidmore]

5. Yep, we can trust this woman to get the nation out of its

financial hellhole.

:sarcasm:

[VolcanoJen]

12. I mean, really.

Good Gawd. Everyone in this nation is going through financial hell right now, and she sticks it to these small production companies, caterers and others? How are they supposed to pay their employees, how are they supposed to pay their insurance premiums?

Does she even give a shit?

[BobRossi]

6. Penn, Schoen & Berland Assoc

$2.1m to DLC pollsters.

[billyoc]

8. Sue the deadbeat, NOW.

Ring the campaign headquarters' phones off the hook night and day with collection agencies.

[Tatiana]

44. Problem is, for these public entities and small businesses, that may be money that they can't afford

It costs money to contract with collection agencies and it costs money to pay filing fees and an attorney to sue. The expense of trying to recoup the amount they are owed might not be worth it.

Big corporations can afford it, but some of these vendors look like local small businesses that would only go there as a last resort.

[flpoljunkie]

9. Think if Barack Obama had $9Mil in unpaid campaign debt, and only $3Mil cash on hand. Tom Brokaw,

said today on Chris Matthew's Sunday show that Hillary's campaign may be ended before the last primary-- because of money problems, despite Hillary's insistence she will fight on until the last primary in early June.

[NightWatcher]

10. per Politico: Cash-strapped Clinton fails to pay bills

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9259.html

Hillary Rodham Clinton’s cash-strapped presidential campaign has been putting off paying hundreds of bills for months — freeing up cash for critical media buys, but also earning the campaign a reputation as something of a deadbeat in some small business circles.

A pair of Ohio companies owed more than $25,000 by Clinton for staging events for her campaign are warning others in the tight-knit event production community — and anyone else who will listen — to get their cash upfront when doing business with her. Her campaign, say representatives of the two companies, has stopped returning phone calls and e-mails seeking payment of outstanding invoices. One even got no response from a certified letter.

She cannot run a campaign, do you really want her running the country? (McCain argument vs. Hillary in the General Election)

[KoKo]

11. And, you know who owns the Politico....dontcha? n/t

[NightWatcher]

14. if the Hillary supporters can quote it when it's good news, I wil quote it today too

[cali]

21. Pathetic

it's a list from the FEC. Face it, hilly is a deadbeat.

[Debi]

29. Who 'owns' the FEC - where politico got it's info?

You can complain about Politico all you want - it doesn't change Clinton's unpaid debt load and extravagant spending.

Her campaign doesn't pay their bills - it doesn't matter who reports it, it's still the truth.

[notesdev]

15. McCain can't run a campaign either

He only won for the same reason Kerry got his nomination in 2004... he was the last man standing after all the other candidates tore each other to pieces.

[MH1]

33. some of us

liked Kerry best.

It didn't hurt his chances that the others tore each other to pieces, but to many voters like myself, that didn't make a difference.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[notesdev]

34. Some liked McCain best but

not many! Most of the GOP hates his guts.

[notesdev]

13. if we go by campaign budgets

Obama's the only candidate left who has managed his money with any degree of responsibility. Hillary's under water, McCain (who hasn't even had to spend any money for many weeks now) is barely treading water. I would demand payment up front from the latter two campaigns if asked to work for either; Obama's credit would be good with me based on his balance sheet.

Speaking of McCain, he shouldn't be allowed to get away with his dirty loan trick, getting a loan based on matching funds then rejecting the limits for spending that go along with matching funds.

[Ichingcarpenter]

16. The Clinton campaign has stopped returning phone calls from creditors.

A pair of Ohio companies owed more than $25,000 by Clinton for staging events
for her campaign are warning others in the tight-knit event production community
-- and anyone else who will listen -- to get their cash upfront when doing business
with her.

Her campaign, say representatives of the two companies, has stopped returning phone calls
and e-mails seeking payment of outstanding invoices.
One even got no response from a certified letter.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/30/cash-strapped-clinton-fai_n_94093.html

[C_U_L8R]

18. It's a small world amongst the vendors

and they do talk with each other. Word is spreading that Hillary is a deadbeat.

There are all sorts of bad clients in the world but the worst of all is the client
who doesn't pay. Anyone who's ever had to lay people off because of
deadbeat client knows exactly what I'm talking about. It's heartbreaking.

[Ichingcarpenter]

20. The money problem will only get worse

as the campaign drags on. Donors, with the exception of
the 700 club type diehard Hillary supporters, will either reduce
the amount they give or quit giving altogether. Meanwhile,
big donors will be dried up because they are already maxxed out.

This news, and it is news, means that hard cash will be necessary to
stage events, since her credit score is going under 400. Not good news
for a campaign.

[notesdev]

25. The worst client

Is one that gives you the runaround for months and THEN doesn't pay. The clients that simply don't pay suck, but you can write them off quickly then move on. It's the ones that keep you hanging until you need the cash to pay for the labor and materials it took to do their job, then stiff you, who really wreck a business.

[NDambi]

19. where's the msm on this? damn,, she's screwing the little guy! I thought she was for the little guy

[Ichingcarpenter]

22. Its all over the internet

It might hit the TV news by mid week or KO on Monday.

[VolcanoJen]

26. These vendors will be forced to take her to court, then.

They have every right to sue the campaign for the money owed.

That's not going to be a pretty news cycle for Team Clintonista.

[Barking Spider]

37. Have they tried calling at 3am? n/t

[Debi]

45. Ha ha

:spray:

[greguganus]

17. And all our asses would be on the street if we did this. n/t

[Debi]

30. Our asses are paying for it now! Do you pay property taxes or college tuition?

Because every event at a college or county fair grounds that her campaign hasn't paid is getting it's operating budget from YOU.

If you shop at a local grocery store that her campaign hasn't paid for catering (like Iowa's Hy-Vee -owed $15,000) the price increase to cover the losses are coming out of YOUR pocket.

If you give to a charity that funds your local YWCA, YMCA, Boys and Girls Club that the campaign held an event at and DIDN'T PAY FOR - your contribution is paying Hillary Clinton's bills.

Hope you support her - because NOW you ARE supporting her!

[JBoy]

23. Holy crap.

If I ran a business in PA, I'd be wanting cash up front from the Clinton campaign.

[Glimmer of Hope]

27. No kidding. I don't see how she can continue.

[notesdev]

31. Don't underestimate

her craven lust for power.

Just take a look at what she did to Nita Lowey in New York to get her Senate seat in the first place.

[Debi]

32. She will continue and incur more debt

giving the shaft to more small vendors and communities. She won't running and won't stop spending and will just keep hurting the 'little people' who can't afford her campaing (tax payers).

[blogslut]

36. It's the 33,750.00 owed to the DNC that intrigues me

What is that for? She owed that one in February as well. Is it a candidate submission fee? The cost for voter lists? Is she planning on stiffing the Democratic National Committee? How can that possibly help her?

[Debi]

46. She stiffed state parties as well

See the debt for the VAN? That's Iowa's Voter Activation Network. :crazy:

[blogslut]

48. But what do those debts account for

Processing fees?

Seriously, I want to know.

[Debi]

49. campaigns pay a set amount to used the voter lists compiled by the parties

So it's more like access fees than processing fees. Why the parties don't get the money up front I do not know. Obviously she has no use of Iowa's voter information NOW.

I don't know what the DNC debt is for.

[blogslut]

51. I wonder if the DNC will tell me

If I call them tomorrow and ask.

I'll give it a shot. Maybe. :)

[Debi]

52. I'll be waiting to hear their response

:thumbsup:

[Mother Of Four]

39. These are interesting-

FIRST- SCHOOL DISTRICTS!

Bow School District 2,471.43
Clinton Community School Dist. 562.50
Community Education 541.00
Iowa Falls Community School District 640.00
Merrimack Valley High School Attn: Terri Moore 1,085.00
Missouri Valley Community School District 900.00
Muscatine Community School District 805.81
North Scott Community School District 630.00
Salem School District Attn: Accounts Receivable 507.36
Solon Community School Distr. c/o Cindy Steege 1,984.20
Souhegan High School Attn: Sally Varanka 1,415.00
Tennessee State University Office of VP, Student Affairs 3,870.00
University of New Hampshire Central Admin. Bus. Svce. Ctr. 505.68
Winnacunnet Cooperative School District 4,411.05


LOCAL GROCER- Who allowed them to purchase food for the campaign on credit

(From what I understand the next are from local Grocers)
Hy-Vee #1 959.39
Hy-Vee #1101 997.12
Hy-Vee #1109 704.09
Hy-Vee #1192 556.22
Hy-Vee #1759 1,350.47
Hy-Vee #1866 1,057.89
Hy-Vee #1895 1,314.00
Hy-Vee Food Store 1,452.96
Hy-Vee, Inc. 716.20


POLICE and FIRE Departments?!

Lebanon Police Department 875.00 (This one and the schools totally tick me off, my husbands a police officer and my kids are all still school age)
Manchester Fire Department Attn: Dona Blais 1,164.93 (Yeah...lets just take the local FD for granted- They get paid TONS right? :sarcasm:)
Rockingham County Sheriff's Department 864.00




Tax supported facilities- Perfect example of unwilling campaign contributors, taxpayers
Cedar County Fair Association 800.00
Franklin County Convention Ctr 625.00
Hellenic Orthodox Community of Saint George 800.00
Iowa State Fair 6,055.00
North Iowa Fair Association 1,000.00
State Theatre Regional Arts Center at New Brunswick 1,610.00
Sumter County Exhibition Ctr. 869.30
Town of Hampton Attn: Finance Department 4,628.96


Lets not forget just how important childrens services are to her right?
Boys and Girls Club of Black Hawk County 1,000.00
Boys Club of Sioux City 625.00
Newton YMCA Attn: Kristin Orl 1,200.00
YWCA of Manchester 600.00

Hey, she supports Unions right?
Iowa Farmers Union 575.00

Last but not least- I thought healthcare was Hillary's baby?
Aetna Healthcare 213,085.25
CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield 299,455.02


You know, if I didn't pay my bills- we would have to go bankrupt, lose our house and the shirts off our backs. Looks to me that many of these (Most except the health care/union are at least partially supported by local taxes) are being paid out of pocket by unwilling participants.

[Mother Of Four]

42. I posted this as it's own post,

I haven't seen a by type list breakdown posted yet, and I don't want this issue to die out.

[AZBlue]

41. K/R

[gorekerrydreamticket]

47. Debts at the end of February....so what??? n/m

[Debi]

50. Debts owed since before the Iowa caucuses

Do you have to pay your phone bill monthly? What about your electric bill? Do you have to pay your health insurance premium every month? When you purchase food at a store do you have to pay for it when you receive it?

She owes $8.7 million much of the debt is over 120 days old.

That's what.

[gorekerrydreamticket]

53. OK, yes, I agree, pretty sleazy on the part of the Clinton campaign....n/m

[workinclasszero]

54. What a deadbeat!

Man Hillary still owes lots of people in Iowa! If she ain't paid ya by now peeps, I wouldn't hold my breath waitin for it.

I guess Hillary was too busy dodging sniper fire in Bosnia to pay her bills! :rofl:

[NDambi]

55. DEAD BEAT!!!

[mikekohr]

56. I Posted This Story Over 2 Months Ago and Got Blasted For Doing It

These stories of Clinton's money problems were beginning to circulate in local news media in Iowa over 2 months ago. Few people were paying attention or willing to admit the seriousness of the problem or willing to make a connection of the unpaid bills to the management of the Clinton Campaign. The canary died in the mine back in Iowa. It took America 2 months to look at the bottom of the cage.

read link to original posts:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/mikekohr

http://66.39.111.188/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.cgi ?...

mike kohr

[jakem]

57. Stay tuned for that post-primary fundraiser letter-

the one that says, well, we are out of the race, but help us cover out debts!

was that Kerry or Dean that sent that one out?