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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:06 AM Original message |
There he goes again - Obama playing the race card just by being black |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
1. Historian Sean Wilentz: "Obama was the first to play the race card." |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Wilentz is a longtime bud of the Clintons. |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. New Republic Contributing Editor Sean Wilentz |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I supposed it is a disadvantage when |
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Diana Prince (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #7 |
62. Easy.. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. It seem to me that if they are interested in race, they should |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
81. That makes me smile |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. You're Welcome. |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
20. Wilentz got sliced and diced by his fellow columnists at the new Republic |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. --- delete |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Wilentz is a Hillary worshipper and incapable of being |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #22 |
34. You play the race card poorly: |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #34 |
46. No, blaming black people for white racism |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. So you give BO a pass for Swiftboating the Clintons on Race - because he's black? |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #49 |
67. You are too funny. |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
42. It's you again! |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
2. There you go again, trying to make everyone a bigot. Who said the |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. There YOU go again accusing people of calling other people bigots, when they did no such thing |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
38. Right on, Effie. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
56. I can't stomach reading that one's vile BS |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
64. Deleted sub-thread |
cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. If the shoe fits, Cindrella, wear it. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
74. You *are* green w/envy aren't you? Well, accusing others of bringing |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Effie has a very good memory, like many others here n/t |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
3. Race card gives cover for bigots |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. But the fact the misogyny card is played every day |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
31. It Seems To Me Obama Has Been More Respectful To Her Than She Has Deserved |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #10 |
35. How about both of them get played every day and neither is acceptable? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #10 |
37. The "gender card"? |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
8. The Clinton people didn't notice he was Black until he started winning |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
9. Good post Effie... |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Well said! nt |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
41. That's a very astute observation. n/t |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
53. All too true. Very good observation. n/t |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
65. "race card" "affirmative action" "reverse discrimination" are all codewords for bigots. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
77. Very well said! The very term "race card: is an attempt to silence the speaker. n/t |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
11. Some (a lot) white people do not know what it is like to be turned into a token representative of |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
12. George S. actually asked this question? |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I might of said, "Yeah we all look good in loudly colored suits. Damn good." |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Can you imagine the reaction if Obama had said: "I have a very cool style - it's because I'm black" |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #24 |
47. I don't watch the corporate media anymore. |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
68. that was a telling moment, for sure |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. John McCain often behaves very "cooly" partly because of his reputation for a vicious temper |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. good example. |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
15. I think you have got it spot on. Barack has done everything to avoid it whenever possible. |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
16. Substitute race for gender and you have a Clinton interview. It's been this way for both. |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Gold, It's obvious the folks who posted on this thread |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. How so? |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. You're right, considering much of the sexist bullshit comes from the fingers of posters here. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
78. I'm still waiting for the list of sexist remarks out of the Obama campaign. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Why do you assume that a discussion of race, must also include a discussion of gender or else it |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. It's been this way for both - but they didn't only start doing to Obama now |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
45. I understand it's about Obama, but if I had posted the same topic in regards to Clinton |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. *I* would not have laughed. I think you're right that Clinton has been subjected |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
57. Clinton has also been treated unfairly because of her gender, but this did not just start for Obama |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
18. I remember that Stephanopolous question |
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40ozDonkey (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
19. Her strategy is to play the victim. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
23. YOU speak the truth. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
27. Hillary has gone out of her way to not focus on the issues. |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
33. I am tired of the media telling me that the only reason I want to vote for Obama |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Or that the only reason he's getting strong support from blacks is that we are voting our race |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #40 |
70. I don't why people support him, but it isn't because he's.. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
36. I think that's what it boils down to. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Interestingly, Edwards talked about race in HIS convention speech more than Obama did |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
39. There is nothing wrong with voting for Obama because he is black..... |
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jcla (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
43. Thanks EffieBlack! |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
87. Thanks! n/t |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
50. Yes Indeed...from day one... |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
51. Are these comments by Michelle Obama racist...some say.. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. you should post this racist shit at stormfront...... |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Isn't everything the Obama's say racist... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
52. why does`t anyone ask hillary her opinion on the |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Or McCain? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
54. race is always a factor in american politics |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. Not true... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. That's right. And it was in fact watching how both campaigns |
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IndependentDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
55. this has always been "a black" vs "a woman" why? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Exactly! |
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IndependentDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. i don't understand why more people don't get it. it seems so blatant. n/t |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #55 |
69. Exactly. That was the corpmedia's chosen narrative from the beginning, |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. And now that the polls and the voters have contradicted their "theory," they figure they |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
66. K&R |
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Cass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
71. Well, he did say he regretted his campaign playing the race card against the Clintons |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
75. It was predictable, as soon as he declared, that the country would have |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
76. "That's interesting" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. A teacher's civil dodge. lol |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. What he said: "That's interesting." What he really wanted to say: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. That's what I usually wanted to say when I said, "Interesting". |
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