CNN says Obama is "just barely ahead" of Clinton in pledged delegates

[Johnny__Motown]

They list Obama's lead at 129 delegates and then say "just barely ahead" On Ballot Bowl.



Don't they understand that proportional allocation makes this lead insurmountable?




I know CNN is slanted for Hillary, always has been. It took them a month to separate pledged and super delegates. Their confusing these gave the impression that Hillary had won impressive leads in the early contests when the truth is she has always been behind in pledged delegates.



Well, I guess it is time for another e-mail to CNN.. not that the others have done any good.




P.S. My dvr remote broke and the new one needed to be special ordered so I can't rewind right now. I may have small details wrong but the essence of this post is accurate.

[Vinca]

1. So we can assume they didn't tell the world Obama won Texas, right? nt

[Johnny__Motown]

2. Not that I saw.. they mentioned it but said counting was still going on

[TexanDem]

10. They darn sure announce other states on election nights!

They'll call a state when only 5% is in! Saying they're waiting for ALL the votes is cop out to hide their prejudices! Bet they wait till June when Texas has final convention!! They're sooooo freakin transparent!

[anamandujano]

6. She won the Primary. Get it? Got it? Good.

[PseudoIntellect]

11. Yeah, she won the primary.

And she lost the caucus by more than she won the primary.

Therefore, she lost Texas overall.

Of course, she WON Texas if caucuses don't count at all. But I'm pretty sure it did count.

[tekisui]

13. She won the Primary by 100,000 votes

And 4 delegates.

She lost the caucus by 9 delegates.

She lost Texas by 5 delegates. Get it? Got it? Good.

[Window]

30. LOL! Arrogant little bunch, aren't they.

[anamandujano]

45. Millions voted in the primary so it was a better read on the populace.

The fraction of people who voted in the primary doesn't begin to compare. Add to that, security in the primary was a smidgen more stringent.

[tekisui]

46. The caucus portioned is design to require candidates to put boots on the

ground to win. It forces the campaigns to actually be in the state and connect with people, organize.

The Primary did have nearly 3 million voters, and Hillary eeked out a win by 100,000.

At the end of the day, Obama won Texas. He has the better organized campaign.

[BumRushDaShow]

14. He won the most TX delegates, which is what counts. Get it? Got it? Good.

:eyes:

[Johnny__Motown]

23. Only if you change the definition, she won the popular vote contest, that is not the same as the

primary

the Texan primary contest is a combination of the popular vote and the caucus. Obama wins the primary by winning more delegates, Sorry.

[JVS]

24. She keeps losing delegates. Can you understand what a delegate is?

[anonymous171]

3. Can we threaten to boycott the convention coverage if they keep doing this?

I hate how they will profit off of our debacle.

[anamandujano]

7. I like the sound of that.

:)

[Bicoastal]

4. This contest has been a godsend for the pundits and talking heads and they don't want it to end.

That's why every time they're not in a hurry to pick out a frontrunner.

[high density]

8. Plus it means they can ignore all of the gaffes and misstatements of their boy McCain

McCain can do no wrong, and their job is even easier when the Democrats are having cat fights.

[SeattleGirl]

17. That's so true. But even when we do have a nominee, much of the

M$M will still give McCain a free pass. Sickening.

[jenmito]

5. I'm watching that and saw them say that, too. They went on to say "Obama OR Hillary will be set to

gain a few delegates out of this. :eyes:

[PseudoIntellect]

9. Heh...gain "a few delegates" out of this...

more like Obama will gain more delegates than Clinton gained from the primary.

[SoCalDem]

12. 129?? where did they get that number

apparently they all flunked 5th grade math

a train leaves the station and is traveling at 70 mph..a train leaves the same station on the same track 45 minutes later, and is traveling at 55 mph... when will train #2 catch up to train #1 ..

answer:..NEVER

(unless train #1 derails and train #2 crashes into it..killing all aboard)

[Swamp Rat]

22. I, too, would like to know from under which mossy stone they found this number.

[Johnny__Motown]

27. I think it was 129 pledged, again I can't rewind right now so maybe my math is off a little

[SoCalDem]

29. Hey Swampy.. I have an idea for ya..

President O's motorcade going up Pennsylvania ave with Hillary in her yellow pantsuit..clinging to the back bumper :)

[Swamp Rat]

32. LOL... all my efforts are going toward slamming McCain from now on, but here's a 'motorcade' pic:

[earthlover]

31. I believe they were talking about delegate lead (total)

The pledged delegate lead is about 160. However Hillary has about a 30 or so lead in super delegates. So that brings the total delegate lead to 120 something. Not the same thing as pledged delegate lead....

[totodeinhere]

15. CNN slants for Hillary except for Anderson Cooper, who seems to...

favor Obama. Fox is in the tank for Clinton but that's because they think she will be the weaker candidate against McCain. MSNBC is a mixed bag. Abrams, Buchanan, and Scarborough seem to be for Clinton but their highest rated host, Olberman, is for Obama.

[jenmito]

16. Hillary "just barely behind Obama in the delegate count and the popular vote count..."

Then, like I said above, the guy said there's potential for EITHER ONE of them to "peel away a delegate or two" from the "3rd step" of the Texas "two-step." :eyes:

[thoughtcrime1984]

18. CNN is largely worthless- Hillary and McCain propaganda network.

[City Lights]

19. CNN doesn't understand percentages either.

Real Clear Politics has Obama ahead by 166 pledged delegates. What is the purpose of CNN anyway? They're certainly not a "news" organization.

[GoldieAZ49]

20. with about a 1000 delegates that haven't voted yet

it is a minor lead, super delegates don't count on 'endorsements' but only on votes.

The convention is when all the votes will be cast.

[Johnny__Motown]

25. Remember Ohio.. what did she pick up .. 7? even with 1000 left she can't pick up 50

[depakid]

26. Don't try to explain that to Obama fanatics

they'll tell you that you're "math challenged." LOL.

[Johnny__Motown]

28. Explain to me how she can pick up even 10% of those as a net gain? I am good at math

Very good at math...


Please try to exlain it..


Maybe look at wins in places Like OHIO where her net was more like 4%, and that was a big state with lots of delegates.

[depakid]

33. No one wins without superdelgates

End of story.

And if it looks like he's going down to certain defeat, it's their job to ensure he doesn't get the nomination- and drag EVERYONE ELSE down with him.

Same applies to Hillary.

[Johnny__Motown]

35. And SD will not overturn the pledged delegate leader.. here is some math for you and a link

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/



CNN has Ohio as...


145 total delegates, Clinton's net was 7. That is a 4.8% net. Let's be generous and call it 5%


so if she can repeat that IN EVERY STATE that remains (assuming your 1000 number is accurate) she will bet 5% of 1000 or 50 (edit, there are only 918 pledged delegates left)


CNN's site has Obama's lead at 171.. so if she cuts into that with 5% of all remaining delegates Obama's lead will be approx 121.




Please find some error in the math or stop insulting Obama supporters. You are the one who refuses to accept facts

[depakid]

36. Once again- he won't win without superdelegates -and the convention may be deadlocked

Which, given the way things look- would be a blessing come November.

[Johnny__Motown]

38. You just can't handle the truth, The SD will NOT over turn the decision of the pledged delegates

It won't be deadlocked

[depakid]

41. That's your opinion

Not mathematical fact.

And there are already increasing call for them to do just that....

[Johnny__Motown]

43. You said that you can't explain to an Obama supporter about the 1000 remaining

pledged delegates


So, try to explain it to me.....



You made the allegation, back it up.



My math clearly shows that Clinton won't be able to cut into his pledged delegate lead by even 50 delegates.


You offer nothing in return except the empty hope that Super delegates will over turn the pledged delegate leader, even when that lead is 125+ delegates.


The only people calling for them to do that are suicide bombing Clinton supporters. Dean is head of the DNC and says it won't happen. Pelosi will chair the credentials committee and says it won't happen. Reid is the most powerful dem in the senate and he says it won't happen.



Back up your opinions ..... mine are grounded in facts

and stop accusing Obama supporters of what you are doing. We have the facts and the math on our side

[depakid]

47. "We have the facts and the math on our side" LOL

No, you don't. Which is why this looks like it's going to the convention. Maybe he can persuade enough superdelegates to vote for him- maybe not.

It takes 2025 to get the nomination- that's a fact, not some wishful thinking or browbeating with illusory numbers.

[Johnny__Motown]

48. We started talking pledged delegates, you couldn't back up your statement and jumped to SD to avoid

the FACT that she can't catch up to him


Every party leader says that the pledged delegate leader will be the nominee

you have nothing but unsubstantiated allegations and empty rhetoric


Obama's lead is insurmountable.


Fats and Math, on our side


Lies and innuendo, on your side

[Johnny__Motown]

40. I Am Telling You You Are Math Challenged.... try to refute my numbers

You can't



You jump to super delegates because you ARE MATH CHALLENGED

[Johnny__Motown]

39. IF she repeats her win in Ohio in EVERY state that remains she will be 127 pledged behind

Try to explain that to Clinton supporters


918 pledged delegates left


Obama's lead on CNN's site is 171


Clinton's net in Ohio was 4.8%


do the math

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

21. Here's the funny thing:

They'll call a race with 2% reporting but they won't call a race with 92% reporting.

92% of the vote is in.

It's over.

[mmonk]

34. Their purpose is to have it carry on. It's a rating thing.

They're not ready to go back to Britney or Paris yet.

[dailykoff]

37. CIA Koolaid Network

Laugh, but it's true. They've pimped Bushler crimes for the last 8 years and Clinton and Bush I crimes (like Waco and Gulf War I) before that. :puke:

[samsingh]

42. cnn wants Hillary to win so that mccain can beat her

rw support for Hillary is designed to support mccain.

Hillary, who still like but used to love, does not inspire like Obama does. And sadly, the Clinton's seem to enable and protect bush against the bush family war crimes.

[krawhitham]

44. It is called RATINGS