Obama Wins Texas!!!!!

[SoFlaJet]

Obama Camp Declares Victory In Texas Conventions And Overall State Contest
By Eric Kleefeld - March 30, 2008, 1:44AM
The Obama campaign has released the following statement, declaring a big victory in the Texas caucuses and an overall win for the Texas Two-Step:

Caucuses Guarantee Obama Win In Texas

AUSTIN - With more than 56% of the results tallied from today's 284 Democratic district conventions across Texas, Senator Barack Obama currently is projected to earn a 38-29 pledged delegate win in the Texas caucuses, exactly as projected on the day after the March 4th precinct caucuses. The nine delegate margin in the caucuses means Obama will gain a net margin of five pledged delegates from Texas because Senator Clinton narrowly won the Texas primary by only four delegates, 65-61.

"Despite the Clinton campaign's widespread attempts to prevent many Texans from participating in their district convention, the voters of Texas confirmed Senator Obama's important delegate win in the Lone Star State," said Obama spokesman Josh Earnest. "Today's record-shattering turnout sends a clear message that the American people are ready for change in Washington and new leadership in the White House that will stand up for working families."

The Obama campaign will release a more detailed tally of the results tomorrow.

[tekisui]

1. He took that "big state" from Hillary!

[roguevalley]

24. makes you wonder how hard he would have kicked her behind

if the repugs hadn't crossed over.

[VolcanoJen]

2. Doesn't that mean Clinton has to leave the race?

Didn't Bill Clinton say as much, during the Texas campaign?

:shrug:

Hooray for Obama! Great news that he won Texas!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

10. They'll be dropping out shortly.

[pompano]

60. It depends on what....

the difinition of "luze" is? Luze, as in not win, or luze as in misplace? It's still there, below Oklahoma and between Louisiana and New Mexico?

Hillary didn't luze that small State. She knows where it is. Besides two Louisianas equal 1/2 Texas. So take the delegates she got from La. multiply by two, and again by two, some votes were for Bill, throw out "Harris" Co. Texas delegates (Curella assumed votes) and thats the only fair way to do it.

Rewrite it in the histrie books and call it the 2sLa "approach"!

You Obamaites are so shallow and parce every word people say? Desperate...desperate...desperate!

[Lautremont]

64. Desperate? Or FIENDISHLY CLEVER?

[Vinca]

3. AP is also reporting it. Maybe it will actually hit CNN in a week or two. nt

[TheDonkey]

4. haha, I'm guessing 2.

[babylonsister]

5. Ha! That's about right. nt

[bilgewaterbill]

8. "CNN is reporting that we were wrong..." Yeah, that'll happen.

[theredpen]

44. Actually, CNN's election central has the Texas Primaries and Caucuses as separate events

[EmilyAnne]

6. Yes!!!

[DarienComp]

7. Cue "Texas doesn't count" talking points in 5... 4... 3...

[SoFlaJet]

9. sorry Darien

only the CAUCUS part doesn't count (use your inner Bill Clinton voice) "everyone knows they're undemocratic"

[tammywammy]

13. Exactly

:)

[DarienComp]

14. ahh, but of course.

Also, apparently Obama's campaign was calling Hillary's delegates and convincing them that they were actually Obama's delegates... or something...

:shrug:

[theredpen]

47. Horsehockey

There was a suspect YouTube video that implied that, but no reliable report.

[DarienComp]

54. no, I agree with you...

it sounds like total BS to me. That video was ridiculous.

[charlie]

18. No, she burned that bridge too

when Bill blamed once "savvy", "independent-minded" non-caucus New Hampshire for Florida's woes. Caucus-schmaucus, it's What Have You Done For Hill in the Last 2 Minutes that matter.

[anonymous171]

11. So Hillary only won Ohio and RI.

[tekisui]

17. And Ohio by only 10%.

Not nearly what she was polling at just weeks before the vote.

[VolcanoJen]

28. And, there was this....

... The Limbaugh Effect. You can even buy a shirt if you want to be a Wingnut Braggart. Going to make great stocking stuffers for my wingnuttiest coworkers who still brag and high-five each other over "The Plot."

[stevenleser]

41. And Ohioans didnt know the truth about Hillary's support of NAFTA during Bill's administration

She doesnt beat Barack now in Ohio with that info out. She probably doesnt even beat McCain in Ohio now that that is known.

[tekisui]

43. I hope PA has been paying attention.

[sonias]

12. MSM was wrong -they never should have called the state for Hillary

It's the same kind of shit they pulled in Florida in 2000. Those effing bastards should get their facts straight first.

They never understood the two step caucus process, and actually it's still not over, but I feel pretty confident that the delegates elected to the state convention will follow through on their committment to Obama.

We knew on March 4th it wasn't over and that Obama would do much, much better in the caucus system. That's where he has depth in grassroots organization.

Turn out and come back to support him we did. Texas delivered for Obama. Yes we did!


Sonia

[journalist3072]

15. Even though more people went to the polls in Texas on election day and voted for Sen. Clinton?

It makes no sense.

The Democratic Party needs to scrap this whole thing of proportionally awarding delegates.

I am a fan of the Republican's winner-take-all system.

Whoever won the most votes on election day should get the delegates.

And in this case, that would be Sen. Clinton.

She won the Texas primary on election day.

[tammywammy]

16. But she lost the caucus

And she lost it enough that overall, counting the two together, she lost in delegates. She lost Texas.

[jenmito]

21. Sorry, but Bill Clinton even said he needed people to vote in the primary AND caucus for Hillary to

win TX. They didn't. She lost TX because Obama won more delegates in the "Texas two-step." :)

[Perky]

22. I look at it this way.

The system rewards the activiticst in that their votease count more since they get to vote twice,

:shrug:

[sniffa]

26. Yeah, but she lost Texas today.

:woohoo:

[VolcanoJen]

29. Caucuses aren't fair!!

:cry:

[DerekJ]

30. Sorry!! I proved you to be wrong

Check this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5304476

[stevenleser]

31. Like saying because your team kicked four field goals and the other scored three TDs you should win

Because after the game, you decide that field goals are more important. You play by the rules of the contest, not by how you wish the rules were after you lost. Why is that always so hard for Hillbots to understand?

[PseudoIntellect]

33. Stop making it seem like this was some unknown conspiracy and that the rules weren't...

clearly laid out before the process. As stated by another poster, Bill Clinton himself said that voters for Hillary needed to vote TWICE in order to get her the win.

[Forkboy]

34. Considering you'd vote for McCain I'd say you like more than just the repubs voting system.

:hi:

[Texasgal]

40. You do realize that there was

ALOT of "strategic" voting going on don't you?

Rush implored republicans to get out in droves and vote for Hillary in the primary.

[VolcanoJen]

46. Yep. And now you can buy a shirt.

Upthread...http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5320406&mesg_id=5320739

[AntiFascist]

55. Exactly, which is why the caucuses were a good thing. n/t

[LowerManhattanite]

42. Fixed and edited your post...

“I am a fan of the Republicans”


As per your oft-stated “leanings” (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4563773&mesg_id=4563916)

“'ll vote for McCain just to do anything I can to try to keep Obama out of the WH.”

You're welcome. :)

[The Doctor.]

Wow, that's childish.

How many of these children are there?

I'll vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is.

[LowerManhattanite]

53. You would think that that was a newfound sentiment from that one...

...but even before things got so damned toxic between the two campaigns, they've been spouting that drivel—pre-Iowa in fact.

Makes you throw up in your mouth a little, doesn't it? Yick.

[The Doctor.]

45. "The Delegates Matter more!"... "The Delegates Don't Matter more!"

So you are or aren't in the 'will of the voter' camp?

Can you explain?

[theredpen]

52. Washington is beautiful this time of year

I remember; I used to live there.

Now I live in Texas, where I get a say in how Texas chooses its delegates. You don't.

[stop the bleeding]

65. Explain this post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4563773&mesg_id=4563916

Oh you need to get on down the road, you have NO PLACE on a democratic board.

You need to be TS'd NOW

edit: to take out vulgar language

[yardwork]

19. That should put the "big state" myth to rest.

[PseudoIntellect]

36. Nah, I bet they'll sell it as an unimportant red state...

which would contradict her confetti party.

[SoFlaJet]

20. come on fellow democrats kick it up

maybe someone will fucking notice...you know eventually

[Yael]

23. Way to deliver, Texas dems!!

:woohoo:

[Tarheel_Dem]

25. a big k&r........

:kick:

[helderheid]

27. kick

[mzmolly]

32. Awesome!!!

:toast:

[NJSecularist]

35. Who was it yesterday that said it would be funny if the "young kids" didn't show up for Obama?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[DerekJ]

37. For those who claim that the delegate allocation system isn’t fair because it doesn’t proportionally

take into account the number of voters for each step.


Sorry, I have proven you wrong, any way you slice it, Obama wins.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5304476

[Ysabel]

38. k and r...

:loveya: :kick: :loveya:

[VolcanoJen]

39. "Even Bill Says Do Or Die For Hillary In Texas"

February 20, 2008

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4318311

Even Clinton's most devoted surrogate -- her husband, Bill Clinton -- acknowledged the do-or-die stakes on Wednesday in Beaumont, Texas, conceding that a loss in Texas or Ohio would likely doom her candidacy.

"If she wins Texas and Ohio I think she will be the nominee. If you don't deliver for her, I don't think she can be. It's all on you," the former president told the audience at the beginning of his speech.

(snip)

Texas' odd system of allocating delegates has flummoxed the Clinton campaign. (Hillary) Clinton told reporters over the weekend that her aides were still struggling to understand how the state operates.

"I've got people trying to understand it as we speak," she said. "Grown men are crying as we speak. I had no idea it was so bizarre."

:::: tapping foot ::::

[zulchzulu]

49. So Bill is a man of his word....bwahahahahaha!!!

I'm sure Bill will say he never said ANYTHING about her losing Texas.

[LowerManhattanite]

48. Kicked like a Texas Mule!

K & R

[Honeycombe8]

50. I'm not sure the delegate win means he won the state. Like Nevada.

I'm not sure what it means, other than he won more delegates. But since Clinton won the primary, even if only marginally delegate-wise, and won the popular vote in TX, I am wondering if that means that she still is considered the winner in TX. I mean...everyone knew back on 3/4 that Obama would win the caucuses by a significant margin, but all the media and BOTH campaigns stated that Clinton had won the state.

This is so confusing.

In any case, I HOPE his campaign shouts this outcome from the rooftop, because even if Clinton won in name only, as a practical matter OBAMA WON TEXAS, seems to me.

[NDambi]

51. Kick and Kicked Ass!!!!

[L0oniX]

56. When will DU declare Obama the Dem nominee? The sooner the better.

I can't wait for us to be united and together go on the attack against McPain.

[redqueen]

59. IMO not till he hits the magic number or she drops out...

[knixphan]

57. good news, baby!

[Lucky 13]

58. Oh noes! But how can Hillary possibly win the general without TX?!?!

:sarcasm:

[pompano]

61. It is said with.....

a straight face as well.

Like "only" Hillary can make NewYork, possibly California, Ohio, etc.etc. stay or go blue.

They're going to go blue regardless in the GE? There is an inconvenient truth for the supers to mull.

[rcsl1998]

62. And When We Can Vote Twice In The GE, He May Win In Nov. Also!

[Eurobabe]

63. Fargin Aye!

GOBAMA!

[walldude]

66. So does that mean Texas is now a "small state"?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[EFerrari]

68. SHHHhhh! Just don't tell Texas!

:rofl:

[Genevieve]

67. k.

:bounce: :toast: