I trust the Super Delegates

[GoldieAZ49]

I trust the Super Delegates to exercise their political judgement
and vote for the most electable candidate to win in November without being intimidated by either candidate.

They lose all credibility and integrity if they do otherwise.


Threats of riot, protest, fear mongering and black mail should be dismissed for the childishness that it is.

We will see the votes of all the delegates at the convention, as it should be.



If the base of the party chooses not to vote for the nominee then so be it.

[anonymous171]

1. I don't. They gave us fucking MONDALE!

[dsc]

6. no they didn't

Mondale, just like Obama, was ahead in pledged delegates. Hart was in Clinton's position, if Clinton wins PA, IN, and NC. He had momentum but not a delegate lead.

[anonymous171]

7. Mondale, like Hillary, had most of the SDs in his pocket BEFORE many state primaries had finished

[dsc]

10. Here is a link to back me up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_1984#Democratic_Party_nomination

I was wrong though in two regards. One, Mondale actually was much closer to victory than Obama will be unless Hillary utterly collapses and two, Mondale actually had the momentum as he won the late primaries.


At a roundtable debate between the three remaining Democratic candidates moderated by Phil Donahue, Mondale and Hart got in such a heated argument over the issue of U.S. policy in Central America that Jackson had to tap his water glass on the table to help get them to stop.

Mondale gradually pulled away from Hart in the delegate count, but, as Time magazine reported in late May, "Mondale ... has a wide lead in total delegates (1,564 to 941) ... because of his victories in the big industrial states, his support from the Democratic Establishment and the arcane provisions of delegate-selection rules that his vanguard helped draft two years ago."<3>. After the final primary in California, on June 5, which Hart won, Mondale was about 40 delegates short of the total he needed for the nomination.<4> But by the time the Democratic Convention started in San Francisco on July 16, Mondale had enough delegates to win the nomination.

[anonymous171]

15. Here an excerpt:

That's what happened in 1984, when Senator Gary Hart launched an insurgent challenge to front-runner Walter Mondale. Hart won sixteen state primaries and caucuses to Mondale's ten, and barely lost the popular vote. Yet Mondale locked up virtually all the party's 700 or so superdelegates even before the primary began. Hart likely would have lost anyway, but the superdelegates sealed his defeat. "I got almost none of them, because was considered inevitable," Hart told me.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080218/berman

[dsc]

17. The link I provided showed several who endorsed Hart

so he is exaggerating a wee bit. The fact is had the Superdelegates been convinced Hart was the better candidate the only way they could have nominated him was by doing the exact and precise opposite of what Obama supporters say should be done. That is go against the pledged delegates, and in far more spetacular fashion than they would have to, to nominate Clinton.

[Vinca]

2. Scenario for the end of the party. nt

[0007]

3. I trust in the system

In a way it is a keystone joke.

[tekisui]

4. I'm not at all worried about the SD's decision.

I am sure they will vote for the most electable, also. The won who wins the Primary election.

Go, Obama!!!

[bilgewaterbill]

5. I don't trust anyone whose vote carries more weight than mine.

[Arkansas Granny]

8. Since they are party officials and elected officials who have the best interests of the

Democratic party in mind, I trust in their decision too. I will vote for the Democratic nominee with no hesitation, regardless which candidate is chosen.

[ClassWarrior]

9. How can someone be "the most electable candidate"...

...if "the base of the party chooses not to vote for" her?

:crazy:

NGU.

[JayFredMuggs]

14. So true!

These people who hang on to Hillary's coat-tails are pathetic, IMO

Now they are down to wishing to invalidate the entire Primary Election process in all of the states?

DUH!

[ClassWarrior]

18. And if "the base of the party chooses not to vote for" her, why would you think...

...the general population would vote for her?

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

NGU.

[bowens43]

11. Unbelievable.

If the super delegates do anything other then confirm the will of the people then they have no intgrity and I will not support their choice.

They are NOT the base of the party.

[RichardRay]

12. Odd. We have orthoganal views on this debate...

but I also trust they will make the right decision! One of us is going to be surprised :-).

[GoldieAZ49]

20. YES!!! and that makes the race and the convention exciting!

Either way, this is what politics is all about, I love it.

[JayFredMuggs]

13. Are you a Hillary supporter, by chance? Or.........

Are you not able to comprehend the meaning of DEMOCRATIC elections?

[theredpen]

16. GoldieAZ49 is a Hillary supporter

Just wait until the superdelegates choose with the pledged delegates and select Obama.

That's when they become Judases who are out to destroy the party or some crap like that.

[GoldieAZ49]

19. Do you comprehend how the DEMOCRATIC PARTY WORKS?

obviously not.

some insight

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/perception-of-electabilit_b_93207.html

[anonymous171]

21. Just like how state primaries take place on certain dates and

that changes to those dates have to be approved beforehand?

[GoldieAZ49]

22. true, for a primary or a convention vote

The dates are set, but the rules for the delegates are going to followed.

Would you want someone telling you how you had to vote?

[dogday]

23. Too Late to change the rules and if those are the rules...

Well then that is what we as Democrats play by. If we don't like this, we will need to change it by next election then...