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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:15 PM
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Prominent pro-Clinton blogger: Jeremiah Wright is a 'nigga'
Larry Johnson is a buddy of Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson. Will they disown his KKK ass?

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/29/the-wrong-nigga-to-fuck-wit-dilemma-for-barack/#comments

I like Ice T on Law and Order. He’s a good actor (and white moron I am, confused him with Ice Cube). He’s the black guy white folks generally feel comfortable with. But Ice Cube is a different matter. His lyrics from a few years past are, in the vernacular, off the hook, but strangely relevant to the debate surrounding Barack’s relationship with Jeremiah Wright. His song, Wrong Nigga to Fuck Wit, contains these lyrics:


Whites aren’t the only ones who don’t fare well in these songs. The “bitches and hos” don’t do too good either. Even the so-called Reverend Wright gave Hillary the bitch treatment. There is no denying that rap and hip hop have enjoyed commercial success. But success does not mean it is widely accepted. It ain’t mainstream. And that’s the problem for Barack.

This music and talk scares most people, white and black. And let’s face it. Barack Obama has been trying portray himself as an authentic black man, when he has had a privileged lifestyle. Jeremiah Wright wanted folks to believe that Barack was raised by a single-parent mom. He just forgot to tell the congregation that Barack’s Moms was white as were his grandparents. And that he actually lived with an Indonesian step-dad. And he had a privileged upbringing. Private schools and elite colleges. So, in his quest to validate his own blackness, Barack aligned himself with individuals like Wright and his new pastor, Otis Moss, who preach a form of black separation.


Barack’s previous efforts to hang with the equivalent of ideological and financial gangstas (Wright, Ayers, and Rezko) is now biting him in the ass. You cannot buddy up with folks who say Fuck America and Goddamn America and “my only regret is I didn’t plant more bombs” and hope to lead a nation that is predominantly white and latino. That dog don’t hunt.


Just remember that Clinton supporters who raise Jeremiah Wright think, talk, and act like Larry Johnson when they think they can get away with it.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:16 PM
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1. Hey look! It's a corporate democrat backing another corporate democrat!
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:16 PM
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2. oh don't let the MSM get a hold of this!
:evilgrin:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:18 PM
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4. Johnson was banned from Daily Kos for racism.
TalkingPointsMemo too, IIRC.

He's a regular at Mydd and is considered a 'progressive blogger' by the Clinton fans in the blogosphere.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:19 PM
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6. Seriously?
:wow: Wow. Explains A LOT.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:21 PM
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9. Does he still post at Booman?
I have not been there in a while. Booman would not be very tolerant of stuff like that.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:25 PM
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11. I can't imagine Booman would let him set foot there. n/t
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:28 PM
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17. Yikes. I didn't realize that. No wonder he is so bitter lately.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:52 PM
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28. Yep. His audience is shrinking, and for good reason.
What a deplorable display by him.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:07 AM
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58. Really?!
When? I think I had read from a few DUers a while back that he was prone to racism, but I had no idea the extent of it all.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:17 PM
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3. What was it again that made Larry Johnson such a progressive hero? Considering
the shit he's been spewing since South Carolina, whatever it was is now completely gone.

Hey Larry, your hood is hanging in your closet. Please put it on; you know it fits.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:18 PM
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5. He's no progressive.
If anything he's a very right-leaning democrat.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:19 PM
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7. Your closing sentence is one of the stupidest, race baiting things I've read here
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:20 PM
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8. Yes, it's the Obama people who race bait.
Ignore that white sheet in the room.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:33 PM
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19. Mmm, for years now bush, Cheney et al have implied that when you disagree with the Iraq war...
you are not a patriot; you are un-American. I disagree with such flat interpretations. There's more nuance to this world than that. Affixing a new monikers onto the same systemic old trip-wire mechanism serves a similar end i.e. disagree with BO and you are a racist. Again, I disagree with such flat interpretations as you have put forth in that one sentence.

It likely doesn't require a back & forth on that one. We just simply disagree.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:52 PM
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27. An elephant under the white sheet???
:rofl:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:25 PM
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14. And in a stunning display of pro-HRC hypocrisy, no comment on Larry Johnson?
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 10:27 PM by Catherina
:wow:

It must be all that sniper fire blinding you.

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:40 PM
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21. Ah, yet another one...
Keep those cards & letters coming, it would seem Frenchie mused upon it more correctly and I paraphrase, 'Who said Johnson was a progressive'

"sniper fire"? Hm, whatever could you be talking about :dilemma: oh right, right...that wafting brain fart you guys can't get past :eyes:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:53 PM
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29. Here's one of the most prominent and respected pro-Clinton bloggers on him:
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/3/2127/63617

"TalkLeft, Taylor Marsh, No Quarter, Corrente Wire and Left Coaster are not the only progressive blogs where some of the authors and/or most of the commenters prefer Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama for President."
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:17 PM
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34. I found Johnson's recollections of missing bin Laden by a mile after Tora Bora as well...
his field memories; to be of interest when he began talking about such things http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x9912 I don't believe that by supporting BO one is magically transformed into a Lib/Pro as if having eaten of fresh bowl of Lucky Charms. I do not think it cuts same-wise the other way for HRC supporters. It's possible to be a conservative and still support BO (in fact I think there's some of that out there and will be a great shocker for his fainter hearts). Conversely, it's possible to be a progressive and still support HRC

Vast tracts of this nation are not Liberal/Progressive. We're trying to tinker those numbers upward wherever possible. But a lack of nuance as mentioned previous, willful or otherwise, can only impact poorly upon that prospect imo when driving away others that are able to contribute by casting them as racist bigots when they are not. I'm not talking about Larry Johnson, he's a big boy he can just wear his big boy pants and take care of himself. I'm referring to people, we the people.

I did think that as Johnson launched his new pass-time as blogger, that he would have befall him the fate of many that live by such means...

They end up believing their own press clips. Like some do here at DU for that matter.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:45 AM
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37. THE LIE, you mean.
Lie. Not a "mistake". How can you be so blind to that fact?

Thank goodness most aren't.

(btw, the liar is still losing.)

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 07:42 PM
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81. The hypocrisy is that Johnson didn't say that -- that's why no comments
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:24 PM
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10. What a DISGUSTING and FOUL person.
His diatribe is reprehensible.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:25 PM
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12. Wow.
And here I am, thinking I can't be surprised by her scumbaggery anymore.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:26 PM
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15. Well, no, it's not Clinton but one of her supporters that wrote this.
Don't broad brush them like they do to us.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:46 AM
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38. True, she's already destroyed her own campaign with her lies.
She doesn't need any help there!

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:16 PM
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59. I think they have broad-brushed...
themselves. The Clinton Campaign and it's surrogates have used race and religion since the get-go. This is nothing new, it is typical...

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail

A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out. "Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html


Kerrey Apologizes to Obama Over Remark
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4031436
Kerrey's mention of Obama's middle name and his Muslim roots raised eyebrows because they are also used as part of a smear campaign on the Internet that falsely suggests Obama is a Muslim who wants to bring jihad to the United States.
Obama is a Christian.
The Clinton campaign has already fired two volunteer county coordinators in Iowa for forwarding hoax e-mails with the debunked claim. Last week, a national Clinton campaign co-chairman resigned for raising questions about whether Obama's teenage drug use could be used against him, so Kerrey's comments raised questions about whether the Clinton campaign might be using another high-profile surrogate to smear Obama.



Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs


Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008
The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's
Super Tuesday primary, which she won.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-

2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html


Source: Newsday
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Barack Obama Accepts Apology From Hillary Clinton
Washington D.C. 12/15/2007 09:17 AM GMT (FINDITT)

Hillary Clinton went straight to Barack Obama with an apology following a staffer's remarks about any skeletons that may be lurking in Obama's closet, pointing out that she had accepted the staffer's resignation over the disparaging remarks. Obama accepted her at her word, according to his campaign staff, and is moving on without letting it interrupt his campaign plans.


Obama is currently leading the polls in Iowa and New Hampshire, the two early primary states often considered key to the process, according to numbers at usaelectionpolls.com, but on a national level Clinton still holds a huge lead. The most recently posted poll results show Obama with 31 percent of the
probable voters in New Hampshire backing him with 29 percent showing support for Clinton.
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=30629&cat=5

Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores
Her Own Radical Ties
By: Justin Rood

ABC News - The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group
mentioned in the Obama stories."Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the 1970s group Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001.
In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from the Politico newspaper reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another member of the radical group.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4330128&page=1


Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says. Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in
her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)



Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.

Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html


January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”



COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized
for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-

johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34


Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET
The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
----------
Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg
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purji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:45 PM
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67. rev wright is just a supporter too. dont forget.n/t
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:25 PM
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13. Nonsensical and pretty much unreadable. Lame attempt to stir the pot by Johnson
too little too late. Could hardly read his poorly written shocktainment piece that was just a lazy ignorant rant that was just flat out dumb.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:27 PM
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16. This guy used to be a CIA agent?
:wtf:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:30 PM
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18. Larry, Larry, Larry
You just blew your cover.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:39 PM
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20. A telling exchange on his blog:
Comment by eurogirl70 | 2008-03-29 21:01:17

Larry:

Ice T is on Law and Order, not Ice Cube

____________________________

Comment by Larry Johnson | 2008-03-29 21:05:18

My bad.


All I can say is that Larry is a disgusting POS, but he blends in quite well with most HRC surrogates.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:41 PM
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22. Larry Johnson
Racist POS!

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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:43 PM
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23. "They" all look alike to him, I'm sure.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:15 AM
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44. Larry Johnson? Didn't this guy used to be a regular on Randi's
show? If so, he's friends with Randi, and her go-to guy on Intelligence matters? Come to think of it, I haven't heard him on the show for quite a while. Perhaps they're no longer friends because Randi supports Barack.

Disgusting that he outed himself, racist POS.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #44
94. i think randi is a bit slow on the uptake
he must a have tip is hand to many times on the show..or he made a pass at her..
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:47 PM
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24. apparently HRC supporters are obsessed with race
-- for a while here on DU it was looking like an aryan nations convention. I don't know if those disgusting dumbasses are still on, because I have all of them on ignore.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:51 PM
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26. Me, too.
I'm afraid Ignore will never be the same after this. :scared:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:50 PM
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25. Pig, with apologies to pigs.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:59 PM
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30. The Clinton Camp can have him.
:puke:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:00 PM
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31. Someone send Lanny a copy of Cypress Hill album...
He needs to get with the program. I bet he calls 911 every time someone of the wrong affiliate group drives past the intersection up the street from his house.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:06 PM
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32. Oh come on
Larry Johnson didn't call Wright a "nigga." He cited some lyrics from a song that had "nigga" in the title.

Elton John — a big Hillary supporter — wrote a song called "The Bitch is Back," and if he included it as a tongue in cheek homage to Clinton in his upcoming fund-raiser concert, I'm sure the grown-ups could take it in the spirit in which it was presented.

Yes, Joe Wilson's circle has been attacking Obama vociferously, but there's not need to make more out of these attacks than they are. This "nigga" outrage is pure spin.

BTW, I support Obama and with more than anything that Clinton would drop out of the race, but we're still all Democrats here (for now).
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:20 PM
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61. You feel it necessary to defend this shit?

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail

A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out. "Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html


Kerrey Apologizes to Obama Over Remark
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4031436
Kerrey's mention of Obama's middle name and his Muslim roots raised eyebrows because they are also used as part of a smear campaign on the Internet that falsely suggests Obama is a Muslim who wants to bring jihad to the United States.
Obama is a Christian.
The Clinton campaign has already fired two volunteer county coordinators in Iowa for forwarding hoax e-mails with the debunked claim. Last week, a national Clinton campaign co-chairman resigned for raising questions about whether Obama's teenage drug use could be used against him, so Kerrey's comments raised questions about whether the Clinton campaign might be using another high-profile surrogate to smear Obama.



Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs


Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008
The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's
Super Tuesday primary, which she won.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-

2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html


Source: Newsday
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Barack Obama Accepts Apology From Hillary Clinton
Washington D.C. 12/15/2007 09:17 AM GMT (FINDITT)

Hillary Clinton went straight to Barack Obama with an apology following a staffer's remarks about any skeletons that may be lurking in Obama's closet, pointing out that she had accepted the staffer's resignation over the disparaging remarks. Obama accepted her at her word, according to his campaign staff, and is moving on without letting it interrupt his campaign plans.


Obama is currently leading the polls in Iowa and New Hampshire, the two early primary states often considered key to the process, according to numbers at usaelectionpolls.com, but on a national level Clinton still holds a huge lead. The most recently posted poll results show Obama with 31 percent of the
probable voters in New Hampshire backing him with 29 percent showing support for Clinton.
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=30629&cat=5

Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores
Her Own Radical Ties
By: Justin Rood

ABC News - The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group
mentioned in the Obama stories."Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the 1970s group Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001.
In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from the Politico newspaper reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another member of the radical group.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4330128&page=1


Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says. Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in
her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)



Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.

Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html


January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”



COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized
for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-

johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34


Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET
The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
----------
Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:47 PM
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68. What does any of that have to do with Larry Johnson?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #68
74. Surrogates...

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET
The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
----------
Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:09 PM
Response to Original message
33. I'm not holding bloggers against the candidates. Sorry.
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:16 AM
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35. Make this go viral-like
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 12:16 AM by TML
I blogged about it already here. This is not only unacceptable, but news networks like CNN and MSNBC should not be giving a platform to the likes of Larry "Flowbee" Johnson and Taylor Marsh to spew their venomous hate.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:42 AM
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36. OMFG! This pig uses a song that has absolutely no connection to Wright except it allows him
to make the reference that Wright is a "Nigga." And because Wright is now magically connected to Ice Cube, and Obama is connected to Wright, Obama must be a Nigga, too.

This is so far beyond what Geraldine Ferraro said that it is almost hard to believe it's a real post. I'm not sure even a republican would put their real name on shit like this. And when is Johnson going to lose that ugly fucking haircut?
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #36
39. pretty much. I think his only agenda was to be able to use racial slurs and get away with it
probably excites him to be "naughty". Probably hoping this will cause some controversy and he'll get 15 seconds of fame.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:13 AM
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40. Larry never heard of Cop Killa I'm guessing
Or he wouldn't be telling us that Ice-T's the Negro white folks are comfortable with; nor has he seen one of Cube's films, which are, more often than not, pretty standard family fare. But it is instructive that he posits this as a good Negro-bad Negro dynamic, if only because his logic seems to be that "they" are either one or the other.

It's good to have a writer of such intense subtlety, and deep interest, offering his opinions on race. He is an embodiment of why we actually NEED to have the dialog about race in this country.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #40
46. Yep, Ice-T is not Will Smith.
:rofl:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:05 AM
Response to Reply #40
57. LOL! That's what I was thinking.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:23 AM
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41. Is Larry Johnson not aware that Ice Cube is now a children's movie mainstay?
He forgot that back in the day, Ice Cube also got in trouble for rapping about Koreans and gays. Today, however, Ice Cube is the star of very popular kids flicks in the "Are We There Yet" series.

Just sayin'...
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 05:26 AM
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42. On this issue Larry Johnson: Can't Understand Normal Thought n/t
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 06:08 AM
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43. "Just remember..."
"Just remember that Clinton supporters who raise Jeremiah Wright think, talk, and act like Larry Johnson when they think they can get away with it."

Do they? I don't think so. And you have no reason to think so either.
And - i tried reading the extracts you pasted but they were far too unappealing to stick with. there's enough of this crap in the world without my needing to focus on it over breakfast. there are problems in the world that are serious enough for real
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #43
62. Yes they do. Mob mentality...
like a pack of wild rabid dogs, drooling at the thought of going for the jugular. Obviously they are pleased with themselves that Reverend Wright has gotten death threats. High-fives all around. I'm sure it is no big deal to you. Sorry you had your breakfast disturbed with such petty nonsense.

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail

A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out. "Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html


Kerrey Apologizes to Obama Over Remark
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4031436
Kerrey's mention of Obama's middle name and his Muslim roots raised eyebrows because they are also used as part of a smear campaign on the Internet that falsely suggests Obama is a Muslim who wants to bring jihad to the United States.
Obama is a Christian.
The Clinton campaign has already fired two volunteer county coordinators in Iowa for forwarding hoax e-mails with the debunked claim. Last week, a national Clinton campaign co-chairman resigned for raising questions about whether Obama's teenage drug use could be used against him, so Kerrey's comments raised questions about whether the Clinton campaign might be using another high-profile surrogate to smear Obama.



Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs


Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008
The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's
Super Tuesday primary, which she won.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-

2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html


Source: Newsday
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Barack Obama Accepts Apology From Hillary Clinton
Washington D.C. 12/15/2007 09:17 AM GMT (FINDITT)

Hillary Clinton went straight to Barack Obama with an apology following a staffer's remarks about any skeletons that may be lurking in Obama's closet, pointing out that she had accepted the staffer's resignation over the disparaging remarks. Obama accepted her at her word, according to his campaign staff, and is moving on without letting it interrupt his campaign plans.


Obama is currently leading the polls in Iowa and New Hampshire, the two early primary states often considered key to the process, according to numbers at usaelectionpolls.com, but on a national level Clinton still holds a huge lead. The most recently posted poll results show Obama with 31 percent of the
probable voters in New Hampshire backing him with 29 percent showing support for Clinton.
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=30629&cat=5

Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores
Her Own Radical Ties
By: Justin Rood

ABC News - The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group
mentioned in the Obama stories."Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the 1970s group Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001.
In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from the Politico newspaper reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another member of the radical group.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4330128&page=1


Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says. Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in
her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)



Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.

Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html


January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”



COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized
for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-

johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34


Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET
The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
----------
Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg


http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-bill-

clinton-defends-nevada-lawsuit/
CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
On Meet the Press on Sunday, Hillary Clinton said her campaign had nothing to do with a lawsuit--written about by Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel--that threatens to prevent thousands of workers from voting in the Nevada caucus on Saturday.
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.
Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to
disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."

Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proudmDemocrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #62
79. Your willingness to deal in generalities and stereotypes is
...astonishing.
Your characterization of fellow democrats sickening.

Are you sure you are in the right political party?

Complte afetr me:

All Obama voters are...
All black men are....
All white women are....
All African Americans...


and so on.
Very silly.
Suggestion: As soon as you find yourself dealing that way. stop. take a breath. Think again.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #79
80. Your interpretation of my words.
is sickening. I guess you've never heard of mob mentality. Julius Streicher is a good example of it.

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #80
89. Your words speak for themselves
loudly, clearly, and abusively.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:19 AM
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45. Another respected person on this forum bites the dust...
Cleanup in the General Discussion: Primaries forum please.....
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:51 AM
Response to Reply #45
54. I agree. Geek Tragedy has lost all credibility with this post. {EOM}
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #45
63. you respect that kind of talk?
Obviously. Aren't you going to start yelling gender bias?
followed by Bill?
Did Hillary "Play The Gender Card"?
By Greg Sargent - November 2, 2007, 3:51PM

So what really happened here, anyway?
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2007/11/did_hillary_play_the_gender_card.php
After the debate, Hillary's campaign sent out an email describing her as "one tough woman" and deriding the nature of the "piling on" that had ensued. And the next day, AFSCME president Gerald McEntee endorsed Hillary with remarks that almost certainly had plenty of input from the Hillary campaign: "Six guys against Hillary. I’d call that a fair fight. This is one strong woman.:
So just after the debate the campaign didn't argue that she was being attacked because she's a woman. But the campaign clearly did try to strongly emphasize the gender picture here.
--------------------

Hillary pollster Mark Penn subsequently said in a conference call that the image of six men beating up on Hillary would play well with female voters. And anonymous Clinton advisers told the Associated Press that "there is a clear and long-planned strategy to fend off attacks by accusing her male rivals of
gathering against her."
Though one should approach anonymous stuff with caution, this doesn't seem especially difficult to believe.
---------------------------------------------------------
Bottom line: As best as we can determine, Hillary never explicitly made the accusation that the men were piling up on her because she's a woman. But you'd have to be very credulous indeed not to believe that the campaign is explicitly trying to emphasize, for various political reasons, the fact that she's a woman getting hammered by a bunch of men. I don't know if that constitutes "playing the gender card" or not -- the exact meaning of the term is unclear, at least to me -- but that's obviously what's going on.


Sunday, November 4, 2007
CLINTON PLANNED TO USE GENDER CARD ALL ALONG

RON FOURNIER, AP - Clinton's advisers, speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss internal matters, said there is a clear and long-planned strategy to fend off attacks by accusing her male rivals of gathering against her. The idea is to change the subject while making Clinton a sympathetic figure, especially among female voters who often feel outnumbered and bullied on the job. As one adviser put it, Clinton is not the first presidential candidate to play the "woe-is-me card" but she's the first major female presidential candidate to do it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071101/ap_po/on_deadline_c...
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #63
77. I don't support Hillary, nor do I support Barrack
I do however support Democrats.. I was talking about the person, not the talk... Don't take things like that either way....
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:37 AM
Response to Original message
47. Nowhere in that link does that blogger do what you claim.
Why make shit up?
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #47
48. I was thinking it was just me.
Perhaps the white space between the lines contain text that can only be read by Obama's supporters.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #48
49. Sorry, I read Johnson's racist screed
that got him banned from kos and other sites, it really was startling.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #49
50. cali, where in that link does Johnson say what the OP says he said?
Johnson sounds like a complete asshole to me, but my question is about the OP.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #50
56. In Geek Tragedy's mind. {EOM}
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:56 AM
Response to Reply #49
55. But he is a Hillary supporter
They are allowed to say as much racist crap as they want and if you call them on it they call you the race baiter. Seriously, wouldn't most this people feel more comfortable on the dark side? I wish they would just go there and leave the progressive side of the isle out of their hate. I have seen so much racist crap on this board from Hillary supporters that it is not even funny. Yesterday I went through my ignore list and saw that some of them were suspended for their racism when they should of been kicked off the board. I seriously cannot wait until Hillary gets her ass kicked and all some of them have is their racism to use against Obama and his supporters. That is when the light will finally shine on some of the hate, filled, so called progressives.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #49
60. Are you referring to the article which was linked to the OP?
If not, I haven't read it.

Johnson was a CIA officer. I find it unsurprising that he'd react similarly to those who reveal the identity of our spies as he does to those who preach hate against the US.

It is fair to observe that the system which Wright preaches against hasn't been all that bad to him, personally. All of us should be so lucky as to have someone give us a 10,000sf tax-free house.

FWIW, I stop short of being critical of Obama by association. Wright's behavior is not Obama's fault. But Wright's behavior is hypocritical and a turnoff to those who don't think our society is irredemably evil.

There are those who see it differently.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:45 AM
Response to Original message
51. I Like Cube Better
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:47 AM
Response to Original message
52. I read the article. He did not make the statement you have in your subject line.
Your inference that "Clinton supporters who raise Jeremiah Wright think, talk, and act like Larry Johnson when they think they can get away with it" is not true. It is purely supposition and not based on any supportable facts.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #52
71. from the way people defend...
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 01:03 PM by stillcool47
this kind of shit, that assumption looks like it's dead on.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #71
76. I wasn't aware that I was defending anything. I was pointing out to the poster
that the words he quoted were not in the article he referenced. The last sentence in the post was a blanket statement about Hillary supporters that was unsubstantiated. If I was defending anything, I was defending truth.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:50 AM
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53. Dishonest title. You should try to get a job writing headlines for Newsmax or Drudge Report.
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 10:59 AM by The Night Owl
Then again, perhaps you just don't understand the function of quotation marks or have some kind of reading comprehension problem.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:36 PM
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64. This racist idiot has a strange concept of "biting him in the ass."
More like, Obama is kicking Hillary's ass two ways to Sunday.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:42 PM
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65. Johnson also insisted that Hillary was telling the truth about Bosnia -- then the video surfaced...
Oops.


Yeah, Johnson's rants are dripping with racial hostility -- no surprise there. Clearly, the Clintons are outraged that blacks have dared to vote for anyone other than Her Highness, and so they and their followers are trying to whoop up hatred against that entire population. It just kills them that blacks get a say in anything.

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:43 PM
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66. Nothing in the link supports the OP's claim at all.
The fictional OP title is Flame Bait.
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:53 PM
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69. eh, its alright. hes makin what sounds like a legitimate comparison.
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 12:56 PM by goletian
its all about context with that word -- a lot of people dont understand this, especially the far right people who always bring up rap to defend don imus and such (lol). if you use it to mock or insult, then youre going to offend people, obviously. other uses are fine, but if people perceive that you have bad intentions, then you will hear about it. came off as childish, not much else.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:01 PM
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70. a legitimate comparison to what?
black people vs. black people, black people vs. white people, black preachers vs black preachers, black preachers vs white preachers, black rappers vs white rappers, black rappers vs black rappers, black muslims vs white christians..how's that for policy?
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:40 PM
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72. the comparison was of wright and a rapper that displayed similarities.
the lyrics he included mentioned something similar to amerikkka and stuff. im not sayin it was a good article, but the use of the word was not meant to be offensive, imo. provocative maybe, but not racist. thats how i saw it anyway.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:59 PM
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73. I guess he wants to keep..
the Wright thing alive. Or maybe he just wants to paint Obama as a rapper? Maybe Larry is afraid of black people?
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:25 PM
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78. typical... lol - nt
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:11 PM
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75. OP is lying. Nowhere in the piece does LJ say Wright "is a nigga."
Your subject line is a lie. I read the article twice, looking for the quote you referenced. It's not there.

Faux outrage of the day for the Obama supporters, most of whom on this thread probably didn't read the article and just got all upset from your subject line. Good job.

Bake
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devilindisguise Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:00 PM
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87. I read the article
and the word Nigga was in the lyrics I think. Not sure. I do know that preachers aren't supposed to curse. Church is for worship and praise. Good grief, when did we get down to having preachers cursing and GDing America? Wright should be run out of this country IMO. He won't go voluntarily as I would if I hated my country and cursed it. Now if he would have cursed Bush for the mess we are in, it would be different.
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 07:44 PM
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82. gross
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devilindisguise Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 07:53 PM
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83. Pure filth in the lyrics
I don't care for that at all, and it isn't really music. I'm sure people say bad things about Clinton and Obama. the only problem I see with that is if I say something bad about Hillary, no-one accuses me of being a racist. If I say I don't think Obama can win, I'm a racist. You can't have it both ways. If it isn't racist to say the things that have been said about Hillary, it certainly isn't racist for Bill Clinton to be called a racist for saying "Give me a break". There was nothing racist there at all. And after he and Hillary have helped the blacks for so many years and years, I thought it pathetic.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 07:56 PM
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84. Maybe you didn't get the memo- Joe Wilson was also thrown under the bus by Obama supporters
and I hope you are proud of yourself for you completely false headline.

Why are Obama supporters so incredibly divisive?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 07:58 PM
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85. I certainly hope people don't judge Obama based on similar things
written here and elsewhere on the net....
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:00 PM
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86. Ice-T is the "black man white people feel comfortable around"
You gotta be fucking kidding me. Yeah when T was in NWA white people were flocking to him. Then when he was in "Body Count" white people really fell in love with him... :rofl: :rofl:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:06 PM
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88. Ah, yes...the old 'There are two kinds of black people' bullshit. It's disgustingly racist...
and makes me want to puke.
The OP title is misleading though.
However, Johnson is still a racist asshole.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:16 PM
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90.  kick. nt
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:19 PM
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91. Is this blogger connected to the Clinton campagin in any offical way?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:23 PM
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92. Holy shit....is that ever disgusting!
Man...first Scaife and now shit like this.

:puke:
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:39 PM
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93. Ice Cube for president, Fuck Larry Johnson!
And, as far as being "comfortable" with Ice-T, I wonder if he ever heard the song "Cop Killer" by his band Body Count. It's a rock band, so Johnson can't claim it's inaccessible to him!
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:39 PM
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95. SHAME ON HILLARY. I AM FAUX-OUTRAGED BY THIS. What gutter politics this is!!!!!!!!!!!!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:40 PM
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96. let's see....

ice-t






ice cube


both have a ton of money and live no where near the hood
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