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Mon Mar-31-08 12:56 AM
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Poll question: If Obama wins the nomination but loses to John McCain, who will you blame? |
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Mon Mar-31-08 12:59 AM
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1. The knee-jerk reaction would be Hillary |
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But I'm not stupid. If either Obama OR Hillary loses, it will be media bias.
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:00 AM
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Not really, I just wanted to beat the crowd.
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:02 AM
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3. I think you mean Election Fraud... |
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:05 AM
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4. If I could predict such things, I wouldn't waste my powers on laying blame |
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I'd pick the winning lotto numbers. :evilgrin:
Hypothetical questions like this are just silly. They are your 3 to waste, hope the other 2 are of a higher caliber.
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:14 AM
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:14 AM
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Media bias, voter stupidity, and yes some racism.
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:15 AM
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:16 AM
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8. democrats for not trying hard enough. |
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:24 AM
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All the assholes on both sides who said they would vote for McCain if their choice (Obama or Hillary) didn't win.
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:25 AM
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10. Probably Diebold, McCain can't win otherwise. |
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:29 AM
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Just 'cause I feel like blaming him for something.
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:36 AM
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12. I'd rather vision a better bridge to cross... |
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Why waste bandwidth with all this doom and gloom?
I prefer to believe we will be swearing in a Democratic president in January 2009 :)
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:41 AM
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13. The knee-jerk reaction would be to blame it on voter fraud. |
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Because as far as many people here are concerned, Democrats are undefeatable, especially their messiah.
Any race where a Democrat loses the only acceptable explanation to a lot of folks here is voter fraud.
Hell, these people don't even blush in accusing Hillary of fraud when Obama loses a state like NH.
I suppose it is a defense mechanism, but they are severely removed from reality.
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Mon Mar-31-08 02:09 AM
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17. DU will need 10 election fraud forums |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 02:11 AM by Awsi Dooger
If Obama loses in November.
I think he'll win a squeaker via situational advantage but that's anything but certain. The situational edge is not as decisive as in '06, when we benefited from a second term midterm and independents swarmed our way.
Bottom line, we should prevail but nominating a woman or African-American for national office is risky, even in '08, and it could be just enough to negate our situational edge, if other aspects of the campaign break against us.
That's the explanation I would favor. I'm not sure it qualifies as blame. Our two best candidates deviate from the typical profile. The upbeat tendency here is to say, "so what, you'll never succeed without risk," but those profiles are established for a reason. It's not unlike an excellent sports team that is playoff vulnerable due to weakness in one traditionally decisive area.
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:54 AM
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14. If he's electable, he'll win; if he loses, he wasn't electable to start with |
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:57 AM
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15. I agree. But I bet that DU will be spammed with posts looking backward... |
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8 months to blame Hillary.
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Mon Mar-31-08 02:16 AM
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18. It would be a gargantuan conflict |
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Blame the voting machines or blame Hillary?
I'm sure the consensus would be, "Blame Hillary for making it close enough for the machines to steal it." That covers all bases.
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Mon Mar-31-08 06:08 AM
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29. Look at how many are ready to blame her already, and it's just March. |
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Gee, will they blame Obama if she gets the nom and loses? Or is THAT a one-way street, too?
And what if they both end up on the ticket and lose? Who do we blame then? Bill and Chelsea and Michelle and the Reverend?
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:57 AM
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16. 'weakening Obama'? Good gravy, people. |
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Mon Mar-31-08 02:29 AM
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If he wins because people voted for him= it's clearly people who are willing to vote for him.
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Mon Mar-31-08 02:42 AM
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20. So 44% of Obama supporters are already set to blame Clinton for his loss. |
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Unfuckingbelievable. You demonize Clinton more than the MSM and the Republican smear machine. For somebody who'll probably lose the nomination, she sure is a powerful, magically evil person.
I feel bad for the 56% of Obama supporters who are embarrassed by folks like you.
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Mon Mar-31-08 02:57 AM
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Like the "if Obama is the nominee, I won't vote for him" crowd, same as the "if Hillary is the nominee, I won't vote for her" crowd. I take as a given that the Republicans will try to pull every electoral fraud in the book, and that they will have this advantage no matter what preventive measures we come up with. Republican electoral fraud schemes are like computer viruses. They always come up with new ones before preventive measures are figured out, and some serious damage is always done. But if overwhelming sentiment is not with us this time, no matter who our nominee is, then I'm voting in the wrong country.
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Mon Mar-31-08 03:00 AM
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22. I"LL BLAME HILLARY - I stood by THEM, they need to stand up for DEMS and get OUT |
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Mon Mar-31-08 08:36 AM
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35. I'll blame Barack Obama for not serving his full senate term to begin with, like he PROMISED. nt |
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Mon Mar-31-08 03:02 AM
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23. The morans who voted for McCain |
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Mon Mar-31-08 03:02 AM
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24. The lack of fiber in the American diet. |
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For not shitting out the waste we've endured for the last 8 years.
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Mon Mar-31-08 03:22 AM
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25. the media along with a large portion of the general public's inability to think independently. nt |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 03:23 AM by IndependentDem
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Mon Mar-31-08 08:34 AM
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Mon Mar-31-08 03:23 AM
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26. I know this isn't news but this is an idiotic poll only useful for flamebait |
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try a little harder next time hun.
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Mon Mar-31-08 03:25 AM
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27. The general election voters. |
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If they want another four years of Bush, let 'em have it.
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:21 AM
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 05:22 AM by BearSquirrel2
Your poll should read, who is more likely to win the nomination and lose the election.
BTW, do you molest your wife on Saturday or Sunday???
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Mon Mar-31-08 06:10 AM
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30. This is what I'm talking about lack of confidence. It's scary. |
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If the most ardent supporters of Obama think he can lose (because of Hillary's extended campaign), then we're in trouble.
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Mon Mar-31-08 08:31 AM
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31. Whales. I'll blame whales. They're too big and don't participate in |
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Mon Mar-31-08 08:34 AM
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Neither does Scotland or Ireland!
LOL
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Mon Mar-31-08 08:32 AM
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This is the funniest poll yet :rofl:
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Mon Mar-31-08 08:36 AM
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36. Other: the voters themselves, Ralph Nader |
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and anyone else who thinks sitting on his/her ass on election day and not vote is a good way to protest.
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Mon Mar-31-08 08:40 AM
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37. I'm an Obama supporter, |
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and I picked "the buck stops with Obama, no excuses for not winning." The same goes for whoever gets the nomination. There will always be external factors to take into consideration, but ultimately it's about the candidate.
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Mon Mar-31-08 08:41 AM
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Mon Mar-31-08 08:44 AM
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39. This Should Be An Interesting Election |
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McCain's biggest handicap is his age and health... If he looked like Mitt Romney and had his oratorical skills he would be a more formidable candidate...
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Mon Mar-31-08 09:35 AM
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43. I will blame the voters of course |
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for once again going with the popular, cool, and symbol voting "O" instead of "W" this time.
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Mon Mar-31-08 09:37 AM
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44. Other: Barack's disgusting Obamanoid rabble. |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 09:38 AM by Seabiscuit
Who have alienated all who don't drink the kool aid.
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Mon Mar-31-08 09:40 AM
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45. Media bias combined with media censorship |
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of what has been going on in the US and a clueless propagandized public. I also blame a weak congress under both parties' leadership in reference to protecting the constitution and the interests of the people. Sorry if this explanation doesn't fit the parameters of the question and answers.
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Mon Mar-31-08 09:42 AM
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46. Hillary will should be blamed for exercising the Tonya Harding option. n/t |
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Mon Mar-31-08 09:44 AM
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47. All of the above, in varying proportions. (NT) |
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Mon Mar-31-08 09:46 AM
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49. Obama's Media Maven, David Axelrod |
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For Swiftboating the Clintons on race.
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Mon Mar-31-08 09:50 AM
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Surely you mean election fraud?
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Mon Mar-31-08 09:52 AM
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51. It depends on who's to blame. Duh. |
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Mon Mar-31-08 10:59 AM
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52. Oh, they'll blame the Clintons. |
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They will never blame themselves for shoving down our throats a candidate with razor thin experience who should have had the humility to wait until he had built up his credentials and was deserving of the presidency.
He's just another politician, the difference is that he has been elevated by his supporters and the media as something short of the second coming of the Lord. Therefore, his eventual fall from grace (as sooner or later he will fall) will be much greater than for a mere mortal.
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Mon Mar-31-08 11:03 AM
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53. I would blame people who voted for McCain. |
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Mon Mar-31-08 11:08 AM
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56. You got that right... |
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Put the blame actually where it goes... Like all the idiots who voted for Bush....
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Mon Mar-31-08 11:06 AM
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54. It's always all about the dominant media meme in a GE |
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Mon Mar-31-08 11:07 AM
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55. None of the above. My answer is STUPID AMERICAN VOTERS. |
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(Yes, I'm yelling.) Every election there are tens of thousands or more who vote against their own self interest. Some idiot might vote against a Democrat because Republicans want to preserve the "sanctity of marriage," but at the same time the idiot can't afford to heat his house or buy health insurance. I know one moron who is poor but votes Republican because he's worried about the "death tax." There's no way to overcome inbred stupidity.
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Mon Mar-31-08 11:53 AM
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58. Media bias, it's the reason we can't have real candidates like Kucinich or Paul (n/t) |
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Mon Mar-31-08 11:56 AM
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59. Obama cannot win the GE |
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No amount of hope or change or college rah rah meetings will change that fact.
He is to blame himself for not having an actual record or agenda to run on.
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