Dean's Endorsement Helps McCain

[GoldieAZ49]

Howard Dean is doing his job, attacking the Republican candidate. However his own words are coming back to haunt him and help McCain.

“Who would you rather have in charge of the defense of the United States of America,” Dean asked the young crowd, “a group of people who never served a day overseas in their life or a guy who served his country honorably and has three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star from the battlefields of Vietnam?”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4580606/

Dean added, "The real issue is this: Who would you rather have in charge of the defense of the United States of America, a group of people who never served a day overseas in their life, or a guy who served his country honorably and has three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star on the battlefields of Vietnam?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23587-2004Mar25_2.html

McCain served his country honorably and has been awarded the Silver Star, the Legion of Merit, two Bronze Star Medals, a Purple Heart and the Distinguished Flying Cross.

I think everyone is aware that neither Hillary or Obama have served their country militarily.

News covering Dean's attacks have been followed with these quotes about Kerry. It seems to diminish his current attacks considerably.

[MadBadger]

1. I hope you arent trashing Dean with this OP.

[GoldieAZ49]

10. how is stating news coverage 'trashing' ?

pretending it doesn't exist is delusional.

[Justitia]

19. From FOUR YEARS AGO? That's back when Hillary was beating the war drum & voting for it. -eom

[ElsewheresDaughter]

23. They used Kerry's old news from the 70's against him much more then just "4 YEARS AGO"

what you think that Dean's words won't be used?

[Justitia]

25. I am convinced they will use Hillary's vote for war against her, yes. -eom

[ElsewheresDaughter]

36. LOL....ummm NO.... it's Obama who does that

[Justitia]

39. Hillary: This war was a terrible mistake. McCain: Well, Hillary, YOU voted for it. -eom

[2rth2pwr]

30. We vote for President every four years.

weird, huh?

[Mags]

29. because it is not something positive about Barry.

[GoldieAZ49]

43. Thanks for the reminder, I obviously forgot, silly me! nt

[NashVegas]

2. So What?

In case you noticed, it appears that American voters didn't care so much about military experience in 2004.

[Levgreee]

3. and you bring Dean's endorsement of Kerry back from the past, why?

Seems like you WANT people to pick up on this.

Right-wing plant?

[GoldieAZ49]

6. I forgot all about Dean's endorsement of Kerry, and the wording

as I said, they are being brought up on the cable news coverage of his current attacks on McCain.

[KingFlorez]

4. How does it help McCain?

Dean made his statements in a completely different context and in another election cycle.

[GoldieAZ49]

21. because we are still at war

in this election cycle

[UALRBSofL]

5. Oh my, thanks for sharing OP

That will make a great TV ad for Hillary.

[cali]

7. oh for pity's sake- the same could be said of EVERY

prominent dem who supported Kerry. They all touted his military service. I'm betting I can dig up some quotes from Hill and Bill as well. There are plenty of areas to attack McCain on, and thank goodness hoho is doing so.

This is simply your passive agressive attempt to attack Dean.

[GoldieAZ49]

16. Great cali

We can expect those prominent dems quotes to surface as well.

Dean is doing his job (is that who you call hoho?)

[cali]

24. oops, didn't even realize I'd called him that

Local political pundit Peter Freyne dubbed him that years ago and it stuck here in VT. Not nearly as bad as some of Peter's nicknames. He dubbed a local lawmaker "Suzie Creamcheese". That stuck too. And this is just the hazards of political campaigning, and as I pointed out, not particular to Dean.

[GoldieAZ49]

26. LOL - I had never heard it out here in AZ nt

[UALRBSofL]

18. cali, good morning, how is my favourite Obama supporter?

BTW, how do you like my new image? If you haven't seen the movie, get the DVD, it's great. :hi:

[UALRBSofL]

37. cali you are right about that

I have not liked Dean ever since our January 29th primary. He is stubborn and doesn't care about our votes.

[smiley_glad_hands]

8. Wrong website dude. eom

[DarienComp]

9. Would you feel better

if Dean acknowledged Hillary's fearless tour of duty in Bosnia?

/okay okay, sorry, I won't bring it up again.

[GoldieAZ49]

12. LOL

Well it did sound like she had faced battle on par with McCain...the capture was of a different sort however.

[Fluffdaddy]

11. Interesting: This blast from the past was just run on laura ingraham today

Strange a poster would start running this crap here too. Things that make you go.....hummmm?

[GoldieAZ49]

13. It is being brought up everywhere

and will continue to be as Dean makes these attacks.

His words are on record as linked above.

[high density]

33. "Makes these attacks?"

You mean his words from four years ago? Do you want him to go in a time machine and change his words from 2004?

Attacking McCain and the GOP is his job.

[UALRBSofL]

15. Actually the OP is making a point

Of showing the Obama supporters inconsistency which is quite apparent and it reflects there bias toward Hillary. Now, if they would support Hillary as equally as Obama everyone would be happy.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

14. John McCain is a fuck-up

who graduated at the bottom of his class at Annapolis and who who lost five aircraft in his military career (including the one in which he was shot down over Vietnam). Had it not been for the preferential treatment he received because of his family connections (Daddy and Granddaddy were both Rear Admirals) he never would have graduated from the Naval Academy, much less launched a pathetic career as a naval aviator.

John McCain is the military experience as George W. Bush is to business experience.

[Fluffdaddy]

22. Funny how military service in a war don't matter in 2004 with JK.........but

now the wing-nuts are making having war experience a big deal.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

34. Don't expect intellectual honesty from these people...

You're be holding your breath a long, long time.

[Justitia]

17. What a bullshit stretch from 4 yrs ago. Time to end this clusterfuck of war. -eom

[mmonk]

20. Transference doesn't really work with thinking people.

Trash Dean all you care to but he is a good democrat and good strategist for the democrats to have in spite of themselves and their cliques and organizations with different purposes.

[SOS]

27. "his own words are coming back to haunt him and help McCain."

email this to John Kerry's Senate office.
He'll be interested to learn that military experience wins elections.

[madfloridian]

28. Let us honor John McCain today. A moment of silence at DU for McCain.

What a cheap shot this is. Did you read the whole statement?

Dean made a powerful effort at going after McCain while Hillary who voted for the war is tearing down the party.

This is cheap.

[high density]

31. Four years ago the voters didn't seem to care about military records

I don't think this is any different today.

It's been posted time and time again that if you want to vote for somebody based on resume and years of experience, McCain is your guy. That's just the fact of the race. Democrats had an ability to choose years of experience in somebody like Biden but he didn't last long at all.

[democrattotheend]

32. Why are you digging this up?

Let the RNC do their job and find this!

[GoldieAZ49]

41. Hello! it was on the news this morning.

I heard it and did a google search, sure enough there it is.

[theredpen]

35. Unfortunately, the Right Wing Noise Machine made it OK to trash Vietnam Vets

So, now McCain can deal with http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/">this crap.

Also, as I pointed out http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5322705&mesg_id=5322705">here, people will believe what they want. If they like McCain he's a hero. If they don't like McCain, he's a traitor. yardwork noted that the Freepers hate John McCain and his "war hero" status has been trashed just as badly as Kerry's over there.

In 2004, Dennis Miller made the most sensible criticism concerning John Kerry's Vietnam accomplishments, "Ultimately, it's not about who he was 30 years ago, it's about who he is today." That was a fair criticism and if the wingnut Swiftboating doesn't work, then that's one that will.

[dogday]

38. Stop trashing Dems on a Democratic Board

when is this caca going to end????

[Fluffdaddy]

44. We can only wish

[madfloridian]

40. DNC continues attacks on McCain today so Hillary can keep running

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3085410

So her surrogates can keep demanding their money back from the DNC, and threatening the party for enforcing rules on FL and MI.

So good for the DNC.

I find it odd you would post that here.

[scheming daemons]

42. And Dean lost that argument four years ago.... Just as McCain will lose that argument this time...

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[anonymous171]

45. whoah. Talk about pathetic.