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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:48 AM
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We are buying "Fools Gold" for thinking McCain will be the nominee.
Cheney will never let it happen unless he is either on the ticket or has a deal to setup the same VP control of the government as now. McCain is showing signs of mental stress and confusion.

IMO, he will step aside and Cheney will bring in a ringer. Someone already vetted, someone to shock the media into confusion and someone to keep the sheeple inline. Someone like CJ John Roberts.

Also neither of our candidates seem to on the lookout for this sucker punch, and are making plans as if McCain was a done deal.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:49 AM
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1. What?
That's an interesting, erm, theory you've got there.

We'll see how it pans out.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:50 AM
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2. Are you coming to this conclusion just because you think Darth Vader will not allow it?
I mean...honestly. I don;t think DC has that much mo jo.


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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:52 AM
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7. IMO, he runs the government and will soon attack Iran before the PA primary. n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:53 AM
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12. Hah.
Well... we'll see.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:37 PM
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36. nah, he'll save that for the general, along with an OBL release. Fresh and new. nt
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:50 AM
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3. Jeb. {EOM}
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:56 AM
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14. ok but
:rofl:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:51 AM
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4. How can Cheney do that? Who'd let him? Haven't the rethugs spoken,
RE: their candidate? I think you give him too much credit, especially when his popularity is in the toilet.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:51 AM
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5. There is a segment of people that post on DU that I worry about
:eyes:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:53 AM
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11. LOL...
... I know what you mean :)

Cheney is a douchebag who got in with a puppet, he is not the master of the universe, he's not even the master of his own 28 gauge or his own heart.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:52 AM
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6. I agree McCain's running mate will be critical ...

McCain is not what he used to be. It's clear the man is in decline. His running mate will be absolutely critical for the Republicans. It will be someone who will be able to "step in and take over" and any time. Like ... after the first debate.

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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:52 AM
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8. What was keeping him from introducing this ringer from the beginning?
I don't agree with your assessment. :hi:
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:54 AM
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13. The suprise factor, Labor day weeked when real people get interested in the election. n/t
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:15 PM
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25. So, you're going to start fundraising on Labor Day?
Don't quit your day job, CK. :hi:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:53 AM
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9. Have you posted this before? I think I've seen the exact same post
nearly word for word.

Regardless... what do you expect people to do? Guess which 'ringer' they'll bring in?
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:00 PM
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15. Yes I have, as a reminder to the campaign that there are other forces at work that the
candidates and their support niche seem to overlook while tearing each other apart. Cheney is not going away easily.
















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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:53 AM
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10. Go outside. Get some fresh air.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:02 PM
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16. FU. n/t
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:05 PM
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17. That's charming. Kiss your mother with that mouth.
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lefty from jersey Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:07 PM
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19. Cheney is going home

Dick Cheney is going home to Wyoming. He is not going to have any say. We have far greater problems than worrying about Darth Vader. We need to pick a candidate that can win an election that should have been in the bag already.

I hope for a convention that nominates neither of the flawed and unelectable candidates that managed to get this far.

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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:11 PM
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22. A convention like that would hand the WH to the Reps on a silver platter.
The sooner everyone realizes that the choice of nominee is down to 2 candidates the better. No third candidate is riding to the 'rescue' at the convention.

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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:13 PM
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24. He just brought a home about 1000 ft from the CIA, I don't think so. n/t
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:21 PM
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28. Or, he can go home to Texas...
which is where he really lived before 2000. He had to get that place in Wyoming to avoid a little Constitutional detail that prohibits the prez and the veep coming from the same state.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:23 PM
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30. he's really going to go home to Texas
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JorgeTheGood Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:06 PM
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18. you're kinda right ...
but it's probably much more simple ...

For the republicans, 2008 is for COMPLETE control of the Supreme Court for at least a generation or two.

Think of the power they will have ... overturn Roe, mandatory prayers in school, legal prosecution and persecution of glbt's, ability to overturn any democratic senate-house bill that does not follow the republican agenda et al.

IOW -- the republicans would be able to rule the country directly through SCOTUS with no regard for the democratic majority in either or both chambers.

AND -- they know it.

Your surest bet -- the republicans will be voting in droves in Nov regardless of their nomination.

McCain, Cheney, Roberts or Daffy Duck ... doesn't matter.

This is precisely why the dems will probably face a landslide defeat in Nov. I'm not trying to be a defeatist ... just trying to adding a bit of reality.

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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:08 PM
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20. *Somebody* is showing signs of mental stress and confusion, all right. n/t
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:10 PM
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21. I understand where you're coming from. We've gone through so
much these past 7 years that it's hard to believe that the Bush-Repug reign may really be coming to an end. I mean, we tried and tried and tried to get something to stick to Bush... but nothing worked. So I understand your paranoia and worries. Let's just hope that this is our year.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:12 PM
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23. The media is trying to make this thing interesting. I'm not drinkin' their Kool-Aid. Obama has...
this election in the bag.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:16 PM
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26. Methinks your tin-foil hat is on a bit too tight n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:18 PM
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27. oh for pity's sake
what paranoid nonsense. Yes, anything could happen but you're investing Cheney with more power than he actually wields. I hate this delusional crap.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:22 PM
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29. You left out Martial Law then rounding us up and putting us in concentration camps.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:25 PM
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32. They won't need it by the response so far. We will just cry "that's not fair". n/t
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:28 PM
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33. I think you've been exposed to too much crop spray.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:34 PM
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34. We'll find out about Iran soon enough to tell. n/t
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:25 PM
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31. I don't think it hurts
to be prepared for a sucker punch from these slack-jawed cretins. I don't put anything past them. I think they are dying for a chance to run Jeb against Hillery. Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton-oops Bush. Watch out for those -oops- moments.
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AllexxisF1 Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:35 PM
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35. Doubtful.
The only way at this time that McCain would step down would be if he literally dropped dead.

The other option would be to put who they really wanted as his VP. Jeb Bush at this time would never be on the ticket because the name Bush is just way too toxic. However I do believe that McCain will be picking Colin Powell. He is the only one that could possibly offset the historic run of Barack Obama.

But there in lies a problem Colin (even though he was instrumental in the war) was not really part of that group to which he was the last one told.

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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:38 PM
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37. Lynne Cheney is more likely than Powell. n/t
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:40 PM
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38. The NON-TINFOIL version goes like this...
what would happen if McCain suffered some unfortunate and unforeseen medical emergency between now and the election that left him unable to continue the campaign? Who would become the REP candidate?
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:00 PM
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39. The neocon cabal will be perfectly happy with McCain as Pres.
Just as long as they can pick the VP.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:14 PM
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40. It wouldn't surprise me, but Roberts is out of the question.
He's much more valuable to them where he is. He can't be voted out after one term, or be forced to leave in 8 years.

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orangerevolution Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:43 PM
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41. Karl Rove is going to be in the picture
as the VP before the GE is finished by November.

The republicans could not survive w/o Karl Rove in some sort of power position.

Is anyone watching what Karl Rove is doing, or has been doing?
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