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Mon Mar-31-08 04:35 PM
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TURN ON CNN! Michelle Obama is thanking supporters for the LET IT SINK movement! |
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Just kidding. LET IT SINK is stupid.
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:36 PM
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1. What's wrong with "let it sink?" |
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Do you think we should respond and interact with trolls?
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:38 PM
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8. Highly offensive to flaming trolls. |
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We have to consider their feelings too.
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Mon Mar-31-08 06:41 PM
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:43 PM
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the troll-detecting abilities of some of the more avid practitioners are lacking.
Not every criticism of Obama comes from trolls.
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:44 PM
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13. The troll-detecting abilities of most are just fine. |
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At least better than those of socket puppets of previously banned trolls.
Besides, the trolls are barely trying to hide it any more.
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:51 PM
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17. and if you post "let it sink" |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 04:51 PM by MonkeyFunk
to EVERY criticism of Obama, you're sure to find 100% of the anti-Obama trolls. The problem is, the other 90% of the people who get "sinked" aren't trolls.
The whole campaign is stupid, as evidenced by the idea of kicking a thread in order to let it sink.
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:52 PM
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19. Can you provide a link to any such thread? |
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:59 PM
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:03 PM
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:11 PM
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it was an article by an esteemed historian.
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:16 PM
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36. It was an article that had already been discussed in Maddy's thread about it earlier. |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 05:17 PM by JVS
A thread that is still open now.
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:19 PM
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:23 PM
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42. So, according to you, we should assume that anyone who posts a duplicate thread is a troll. Nice. |
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:18 PM
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37. It's historical revisionism attacking Obama as a racist. |
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The fact that you haven't got a problem with that thread says a lot about you.
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:19 PM
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40. so argue with the premise of the historian |
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I'm pointing out that it's not trollish to post something negative about your candidate. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5303191Is Maddy McCall a troll?
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:46 PM
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The majority of "Let It Sink" folks don't want to see a difference of opinion. Their mind is made up and nothing is going to sway them.
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:57 PM
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22. I think you're wrong on that - I think the majority are ready for the Obama vs. McCain election |
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I know math is sometimes hard, but the math involved here is easy - barring the proverbial dead girl/live boy scenario, unless the superdelegates slap the faces of the most loyal Democratic voters in existence by yanking away the nomination from the candidate with the most delegates, Obama will be the nominee.
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:05 PM
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29. I think it is fantastic that they are ready for the GE! |
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However, we don't have a nominee. No one is at 2025 (2024 and falling.)
Here is the only math that you need to study:
Obama < 2024. Clinton < 2024. X < 2024 X = BOTH OF THEM.
And finally...Will Obama be the nominee? I don't know, but I do know this: He is not the nominee, or even "presumptive nominee," right now and nothing is going to change that unless Clinton drops out or enough of the remaining Super Ds commit to him to bring him above the threshold.
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:15 PM
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35. Actually, it's LOT less than that - Pelosi number will be a big difference. |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 05:16 PM by HawkeyeX
It's the 50% total of delegates obtained plus 1 delegate - thus will have more SD's endorsing Obama quickly to end the Clinton campaign.
Obama still needs about 200 or less, once PA and NC is calculated, it will add up close to 200.
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Mon Mar-31-08 06:35 PM
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90<100 80<100 X<100 thus 80=X=90 and 80=90 -> <- (Contradiction)
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Mon Mar-31-08 06:44 PM
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53. Not when X equals a positive rational number that is |
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:53 PM
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 04:54 PM by MattBaggins
How about any post from say Tellurian. Are they all deserving of let it sink or are they gems of truth that all should see?
Answer that so we can get a good reference point for detecting troll poo.
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:02 PM
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25. I don't think any thread |
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is worthy of "let it sink". It's an idiotic campaign.
If you think a thread violates the rules, hit alert.
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:18 PM
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38. Hey MF, did you see this thread? |
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:12 PM
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34. Actually - I see new signups criticizing Obama - and they were nuked |
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shortly after that. So, my troll-detection has been on-the-spot.
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:49 PM
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15. Honestly, I don't mind LIS, but the group using it has gone from... |
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...using it to sink threads which unfairly attack Barack Obama to using it to sink threads which express criticism of Barack Obama to using it to sink threads which don't sufficiently praise Barack Obama.
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:51 PM
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Give me a link where it was used in a thread against a valid, fair attack against Obama.
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:03 PM
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27. A LIS torpedo launched at a perfectly acceptable thread citing a WaPo article... |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 05:14 PM by The Night Owl
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:05 PM
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30. That's a perfectly good example... of trolling flamebait. |
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:07 PM
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31. Thank you for demonstrating the problem with LIS- everyone is sheriff. {EOM} |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 05:25 PM by The Night Owl
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:08 PM
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32. And thank you for demonstrating my point. |
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Nobody's "LIS" on a thread that doesn't have it coming.
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:37 PM
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:37 PM
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4. You really crack yourself up, huh? |
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Mon Mar-31-08 06:19 PM
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47. Admit it... You turned on CNN when you saw this thread. {EOM} |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 06:19 PM by The Night Owl
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Mon Mar-31-08 06:33 PM
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50. I opened the thread, expecting a joke. |
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I don't have cable anyway.
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:38 PM
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5. Why reward a shitpile? Here--I'll break my own rule and reward yours. |
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:38 PM
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6. She wanted to but the campaign has her muzzled for awhile. |
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:38 PM
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7. 'Let Shit Sink' by the Night Bowel |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 04:41 PM by JackORoses
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:39 PM
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:31 PM
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"Let Shit Stink" by Night Bowel?
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:41 PM
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10. We like it to sink. Clinton supporters prefer floaters |
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:44 PM
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You just made CNN's ratings spike by 50 people for 10 seconds.
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:50 PM
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16. Wolf Blitzer is monitoring the situation in the Situation Room. {EOM} |
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Mon Mar-31-08 04:56 PM
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21. After all CNN has been through lately....for shame |
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:04 PM
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28. C'mon now. The call to "Let It Sink" was a sincere effort to save EVERYONE on both sides of this |
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divide some heartache.
Though not officially sanctioned, it was no different, in its way, than the "ignore" or "hide thread" feature, and I'm sure stopped more than one flame-war before it ever got started.
I was not a very good practitioner of the "Let It Sink" campaign, but there was nothing "stupid" about an attempt to keep folks from flaming each other to cinders.
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:19 PM
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:24 PM
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43. Admit it... you laughed a little bit. {EOM} |
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:28 PM
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44. Let it sink, people. The OP is trolling for a fight. |
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Mon Mar-31-08 05:29 PM
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45. Does MO have an insular world view? |
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Mon Mar-31-08 06:29 PM
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49. Turn on CNN -Just kidding. |
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