Does it feel like all we are doing is going at each other's throats?

[Life Long Dem]

Back and forth over the same things and it feels no one is getting anywhere. Is it me or does this feel wrong?

[Maddy McCall]

1. That's all this forum's been for the past six months.

You're right. I'll even K/R in support of this.

Would be nice to have rational, objective discussions on the candidates and issues. That's not going to happen, though. So it's just turned into a monkey poo slinging fest.

Not much more.

[walldude]

7. LMAO....

"Would be nice to have rational, objective discussions on the candidates and issues"... Let me know when you start.. :rofl:

[Maddy McCall]

13. I tried today. Was told I should have been aborted.

Among other choice responses.

I gave up.

[Georgie_92]

14. That's disgusting, I am sorry :(

[Maddy McCall]

15. Thanks...

:hug:

[Bonobo]

20. You mean the thread where you suggested Obama viewed children as punishment

was an attempt at deep dialog and conversation over real issues?

[Maddy McCall]

26. Many Obama supporters were embarassed by the way I was treated.

Had numerous PMs apologizing to me for the behavior of others. We had great dialog through PMs today.

Those are the people I respect. Wish they weren't drowned out by the perpetual shitstirrers.

[Bonobo]

27. But why did you start that thread? Do YOU think Obama doesn't like children?

Were you being intellectually honest with that thread or were you just stirring shit?

[Maddy McCall]

28. If you had a history of being a reasonable poster...

I'd continue this discussion with you.

Unfortunately....

[Bonobo]

29. Thanks for the insult. I'll remember it!

[Reterr]

35. An insult and a cop-out

I will have to remember that-the next time someone wants me to debate a point I can't, I will just lift up my nose and simply say/imply that they aren't worthy of a response from someone as wonderful as myself :eyes:.
The irony is that it is by someone who goes around complaining that "ignoring" implies refusing to debate. Amazing contortions on their part really.

[Bonobo]

37. Aren't the sanctimonious hypocrites the worst?

[Reterr]

38. Indeed.eom

[Texasgal]

41. *ahem*

You know... you are doing just what you accuse her of...

Kettle..black...

Seriously.

[Texasgal]

22. Maddy,in her history

has always been fair and pretty damn accurate in her postings.

Knock it off.

[Maddy McCall]

25. Thanks.

:hug:

(glad you're back!)

[Bonobo]

30. Too bad she has royally fucked her reputation now.

[Maddy McCall]

32. Thanks for demonstrating the very problem that the OP is talking about.

:eyes:

[Bonobo]

33. I tried to talk to you and you basically said "Fuck you" to me.

That's why.

[Reterr]

36. exactly.eom

[Bonobo]

39. Thanks. Look at her reply. It is clear. She whines about flames while lighting up herself.

[Texasgal]

34. I don't think she has.. at all

She has atleast been consistant which is more than I can say for many here... on either side.

[Georgie_92]

2. It just keeps getting worse.

[Yael]

3. The flame bait OPs (on both sides) have been rather vitrolic today

[BuyingThyme]

4. It's just you.

And the others.

[Bobbieo]

5. Well - 'Hello Pesident McCain!'

[dogday]

6. Yes, and I am glad to see others reconizing that there is a problem

that is the first step to recovery.... Maybe we can heal soon so we can beat that old bastard McCain...

[Arkansas Granny]

8. Yes. There are days when you can search the entire front page in this forum and

see nothing but negative posts. Most positive posts about either candidate seem to quickly devolve into a flame fest. There is very little, if any, serious discussion of the issues.

[Smarmie Doofus]

9. It's wrong; it's dumb; it's counterproductive. I just skip over the...

back-and-forth stuff. It's all been said. *Many* times.

I'll comment when some new insight or observation is offered. That's all.

>>Is it me or does this feel wrong?>>>

[The River]

10. Politics As Tribal Warfare

just the way the RW media "Dividers" want it.

[TheDonkey]

11. Hillbots are attacking. Only a handful of them are dredging up faux outrage

and kicking their posts with replies. It's becoming very obvious.

[dogday]

12. Both camps are very much at fault here and that is part

of the problem.. neither one wants to recognize their actions... It must be made clear that both Obama and Clinton supporters here are both at fault for all the grief and fighting... When the Democratic Party tells me who our nominee is, I am there voting for that person.. Until then my objective is to try to make members aware that we need to come together to beat that old bastard McCain....

[Skip Intro]

17. And this is why. You answered the OP's heartfelt question about attacks with an attack.

Pointing a finger.

Yeah, there are some antagonistic Hillary supporters, myself included from time to time, but the overwhelming hate for Hillary Clinton here, the thread after thread of she's a monster and she wants to destroy the party and she's a racist and she hates America - you don't see that kinda stuff from Hill supporters about Obama.

You should point your finger into the mirror.


*edit: changed "of" to "for"

[Texasgal]

24. There is enough blame to go around

in BOTH camps.

As an observer here I think I can say that without any hesitation.

[TheDonkey]

31. The truth hurts

"you don't see that kinda stuff from Hill supporters about Obama" and you believe this? Have you not seen the 10 posts about Obama hating babies, Obama lying, Obama, etc etc only being started by a handful of hatebots. Not an attack, but the truth. There are 10x more Obama supporters on DU yet the mudslinging is at an all time high, who do you think is antagonizing?

[Aussie leftie]

16. I agree with you 100%

Admittedly, I used to have the odd snipe about Obama. There is not as much constructive discussion or criticism on this site anymore. I think it's time we all must acknowledge that we all have one thing in common and that's to get rid of the republicans in November. I changed my avatar because I thought that in a small way it was causing antagonism.

[Mooney]

18. This thread is so one hour ago.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5334822&mesg_id=5334822

[Texasgal]

19. It DOES feel wrong

and IT IS WRONG.

It's sad.... very sad actually.

[Skip Intro]

21. Quickly approaching chaos.

It's too bad.

It is fascinating to watch, tho.

Like some Twilight Zone episode.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

23. I believe the only way we are going to return to normalcy

is to only kick the postings which are neutral in character. As long as we continue the bickering by feeding it, it will grow. I believe both factions need to take an extra step to meet in the middle here. Search out the posts which are middle ground and ignore those who are divisive in nature. There are many meaningful posts here, if you look for them. I know it is hard to dig down to get to them, but I believe we owe it to our community to do so.

[depakid]

40. "kick the postings which are neutral in character."

I would add- also kick the partisan posts that show creative thinking, interesting analysis and insightful takes.

Note to self: be better about doing that.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

42. I agree depakid... also kick the

partisan posts showing creative thinking, interesting analysis and insightful takes. Regardless the candidate. I enjoy a healthy debate.