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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:48 PM
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anyone else notice that all the republicans on tv are pushing hillary?
i'm watching tucker carson shill for her.

they really want her to win somehow.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:49 PM
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1. Or just keep her afloat as long as possible. Hopefully the SDs see this as well.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:51 PM
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2. What's more amazing is how so many are falling for this.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:52 PM
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3. Scarborough is pushing her as well...
...they want the fight to continue - but I actually think campaigning in every state is a good idea - McCain hasn't done it - Hillary hasn't done it but if she stays in the race then Obama will.
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:53 PM
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5. ehh,.. good point.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:54 PM
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6. Scarborough used to push Obama hard, saying how "all his friends" were going to vote for him.
He's not a friend anymore I guess.

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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:55 PM
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7. that's because joe used to be afraid of hillary.
he should fear them both, hillary or obama would beat mccain this year.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:52 PM
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4. Gee, I wonder why.
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:59 PM
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8. huh...?
it's a mystery.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:07 PM
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9. Most of the rethugs I've seen and heard in the MSM are shilling for BO.
rethugs ONLY want other rethugs to win and be elected. YOU are kidding yourself if YOU believe any different.
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Random Lee Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:43 PM
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20. I see a large majority of Republican pundis bashing Clinton more than Obama
I don't watch much TV, but in the newspaper environment it's not even close.
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:07 AM
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36. yeah but,
newspapers are a dying media, most of america just pays attention to the msm now.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:49 PM
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45. MSM is the same.... and the RW are bashing both generally....
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 02:49 PM by Texas Hill Country
they do support her right to run tho...

hell, they put up with the Huck...
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:12 PM
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10. My thoughts are...
that some(frum, murdoch, limbaugh, etc) see her as the status quo candidate with neocom(DLC) ideology. While others(scarborough, carlson, etc) feel she would be defeated more easily.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:34 AM
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39. I think you may be on to something, Zueda
The neoconservatives will go with the candidate with more hawkish ideology. They don't care whether that candidate has a (D) or (R) behind their name. Interesting that both Bill and Hillary have met with Scaife in the last few weeks, too.
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:36 AM
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43. Yeah. And I just can't get over a Larry King show from...
a couple of weeks ago where he had a panel of repubs and dems. David Frum, a neocon, was practically pleading with another republican on the panel to accept hillary as she was "more inline with their agenda". Really blew my mind...he looked really concerned.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:14 PM
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11.  many more want Obama. Elizabeth on the view fell all over him
and even Huckabee defends him but heck you all like "bi partisanship". But I am an Edwards democrat.I would rather kick their butt.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:19 PM
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13. Edwards isn't running now, Clinton can't win, the choice is Obama or McCain
And I think that's clear.

They'll all be blowing McBush come the fall.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:07 AM
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35. What has this to do with Edwards? I referred to Elizabeth Hasselbach on" the View".
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:20 AM
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37. It's in reference to your original post.
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 01:21 AM by melody
In other words, it should be read in context.

You also mentioned Edwards. In light of your previous post, I made mine.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:23 AM
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38. Ah! My original context that I am an Edwards Democrat. I understand.
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 01:26 AM by saracat
Alas, if the choice is down to McCain and Obama I have no vote.It is indeed sad.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:31 PM
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16. They defended him on the Wright BS "scandal"
That's it.

Do you honestly think that a corporate democrat will be able to take out the very corporations that put her at the top?
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pkz Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:18 PM
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12. Michael Reagan on LKL
was not talking real nice about her. As a matter of fact the Obama side just sat their with a grin on their faces.
his best line was "both candidates signed the same papers" (concerning FL and Michigan):popcorn:
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:27 PM
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14. RWer Tammy Bruce on the radio doing the same. nm
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:42 PM
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51. I listen to her today,..
she sounds like she is a racist, and she is very hateful..
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:29 PM
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15. Well heck yeah they do!
If I were a Republican, I'd be talking up Hillary every damn where I went.

I'd be scared shitless of my guy running against Obama.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:32 PM
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17. You don't say...
I never would have guessed from all the Rhodes, Olbermann, Maddow, Miller, Seder, Shultz, etc are dead to me posts.. :rofl: :rofl:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:40 PM
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18. Nope, didn't seem to notice
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Nine Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:42 PM
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19. "I clearly cannot choose the wine in front of you" (nt)
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:45 PM
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21. it protects muckain
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:54 PM
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22. Exactly the reason why
'they' should NOT get her! LOL!!!! Gobama!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:58 PM
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23. Notice it? How can you miss it.
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:01 PM
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24. There are 2 kinds of pundits: Honest and party hacks.
The honest pub pundit wants Obama because they genuinely believe he'd be okay. The party hack wants Hillary because nothing will turn out the pub base faster than the thought of a Clinton in The White House.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:34 PM
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25. do they like her for her or that she'll lose easily to mccain
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:34 PM
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26. do they like her for her or that she'll lose easily to mccain
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:37 PM
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27. She'll lose easier to McCain.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:47 PM
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29. yup
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:38 PM
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28. yes they are. they seem to think she's beatable and Obama isn't.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:48 PM
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30. Rush, Sean, Karl Rove, FOX "News" in toto, the denizens of FR, and every other skulking reactionary
cesspool in these fifty United States are solidly in Clinton's corner - for the Democratic primary. They are no doubt literally down on their knees every night praying she is the Democratic nominee for one very simple reason: her nomination by our party is a guaranteed path to a Republican victory in November.

But don't take my word for it: just dip your toe into several of the threads and/or replies posted by HRC boosters every day, what with their breathless updates on just what Sean and Rush are babbling about over the airwaves of Hate Radio. Surprise, surprise, Rush, Sean, et al have nothing but good things to say about HRC's primary run. And to a good many HRC boosters here, such right-wing asshats are their new best friends.... :eyes:
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:52 PM
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31. Bill Kristol wants her too.
"Obama is becoming the antiwar candidate, and Hillary Clinton is becoming the responsible Democrat who could become commander in chief in a post-9/11 world." http://robertdreyfuss.com/blog/2007/08/bill_kristol_hillary_could_be.html
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Nine Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:03 PM
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32. Not all.
As I indicated upthread (and have in the past), I think trying to get in the heads of right-wingers is a doomed exercise. However, if you want to play that game...

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh032108.shtml

***Our question: Why is the head of the IWF gushing so over Obama?

And make no mistake—Bernard has been gushing hard about the Dem front-runner. (Such gushing is par for the course on Clinton/Gore-loathing MSNBC.) This Tuesday night, for example, the head of a major conservative group said this about Obama’s speech:

(snip)

On balance, we thought the speech was quite good too—but then, we don’t head the IWF, a major conservative group. But then, Bernard had gushed the previous week, defending Obama during the controversy about Ferraro:

(snip)

Say what? According to the had of a major conservative group, Barack Obama has “captured the imagination of everyone in this nation?” That would have struck us as somewhat odd, coming from the head of the IWF. Except for the fact that, just one night before, we had seen Bernard gush like this:

(snip)

Barack Obama isn’t speaking Ebonics! It made Bernard feel proud!

At any rate, you get the general idea: Bernard has been pimping Obama quite hard. As such, she fits right in with Hardball’s requirements—and good news! On March 11, Matthews introduced her, for the first time, as an “MSNBC political analyst.” Like Rachel Maddow before her, Bernard seemed to have said the right things—and seemed to have reaped the reward.

In fairness, Bernard is a young African-American high-achiever herself. (She doesn’t speak Ebonics either!) One might imagine that this helps explain the oddness of seeing the IWF head praising a major Dem in this manner. But few Hardball viewers will find themselves wondering about Bernard’s endless praise for Obama. As we’ve noted, Matthews keeps forgetting to tell his viewers that the IWF is a conservative entity; he introduced Bernard as a conservative on January 28 and February 5, but that was the last time he let viewers know about her political orientation. And something else has never happened. As far as we can tell, Matthews has never asked Bernard an obvious question: Why do you, the head of a conservative group, praise the Democratic front-runner so effusively? That is a baldly obvious question. The question has never been asked.

Why in the world is Michelle Bernard praising the Dem front-runner this way? Is this just another of the Jack Welch Net’s endless scams? Why is Michelle Bernard gushing like this? There may be a very good answer to that—but it’s high time the question was asked.***


http://www.bartcop.com/2126.htm

***Promoting Obama

Link

Excerpt:
Right-leaning pundits for months now have very openly not just called for Hillary Clinton's head,
but also coddled and promoted Obama, salivating over the prospect of facing him in November.
Obama has been beating Hillary Clinton in part because Republicans are helping him.

As often as some of them have declared that Clinton is the most beatable Democrat, their own
agenda suggested otherwise. Republicans are collectively so confident of beating the
black guy in November that they became his unofficial advance team.


I cringe each time I hear the Republican lie, "We want to face Hillary in November."
Why else would Rush, Will, Kristol, Hannity, Dowd, etc praise a black guy?

Do you think they're sincere in their praise for Obama?
Do you think the GOP suddenly became non-racist?

Why does nobody else see the obvious?***
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:04 PM
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33. That's always been my very strong impression.
Print and broadcast, "public" and commercial, with rare exceptions. That's what they're paid to do. :shrug:
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:26 PM
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34. no
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:11 AM
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40. Yep, best chance McCain has really.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 03:07 AM
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41. not really; seems like they're pushing O, from what i've seen. nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 03:08 AM
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42. Results of this thread: Obama fans agree. Hillary fans don't agree.
Who would have guessed? :)
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:47 PM
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44. i actually did guess that.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:52 PM
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46. Joe Scarborough bashes Obama every morning and always praises Hillary
Lately I haven't heard him say one bad thing about Hillary. She can do no wrong in his eyes. He even covered for her on the Bosnia situation. It's quite extraordinary.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 03:00 PM
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47. it is so obviously Gross!
I just watch CNN and not MSNBC and all those, but the hoops they jump through there for Hillary is just ridiculous. Yesterday Pou Blobs had a survey on asking who the the media was tougher on; Clinton or Obama. The reply was around 72% for Hillary being the poor baby. Then they go right into another Wright frenzy! lol. I couldn't believe it. and I didn't hear Once that Texas was an official win for Obama - they may have squeaked it in somewhere and I didn't notice - but it was not treated like the big story it should have been.

damn shit assed weasels!

and when Pou has his panel, it's usually two rw's and a democrat for Hillary. not all the time, but very very skewed against Obama and for Hillary and the repugs while they sit there and tsk tsk about Wright and out and out defend Hillary's huge lies, but dismiss her Sniper story as a chuckle and a mistake.

If Obama can overcome this kind of lopsidedness,
he's a real genuine superhero

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itcfish Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 03:33 PM
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48. Ha Ha Ha
The republicans are drooling over Obama. You must be watching from another planet
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 04:58 PM
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49. i'm on that planet where ann coulter and rush limbaugh told people to vote for hillary.
ohh wait, that's earth!
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:40 PM
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50. They were beating her up in the beginning...
until they realize that Obama was winning. I was cracking up when Obama won eleven in a row, the fright and terror that was on Pat Buchanan and some others faces was so wonderful to see...
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