Shut Up About AL GORE! Pick him and you will have Hillary and Obama supporters pissed!

[KansasVoter]

How stupid are the press for discussing this story???

If Obama wins then 20% of the Hillary supporters are mad.

If Hillary wins then 20% of the Obama supporters are mad.

Pick Gore and 20% of both of them are mad!!!

This is a really stupid idea and no one will support it.

Can you imagine picking a candidate the NO ONE has had a chance to vote for???

Why is anyone discussing this?

[ossman]

1. We need someone with guts now. Not Al.

[TheWraith]

2. The only people living a more active fantasy life than the Clinton people are the Gore die-hards.

Gore isn't running, and no matter what speculation a former staffer or two tried to plant with a low-grade paper in England, he's not going to be the nominee.

[Art_from_Ark]

3. Al Gore -- Nobel Peace Prize laureate

Signer of Kyoto
24 years experience in government, including 8 years as Vice President.
Siginificantly ticked off about the way the country is headed.
Donated his own time and money to help Katrina victims.
Winner of the 2000 election, which was subsequently stolen from him

vs.
A 2-year junior Senator with little experience and no remarkable achievement in the Senate who thinks that Ronald Reagan was "the right man at the right time" to counter the "excesses of the 60s and 70s"

or

The wife of a former President who seems to be hell-bent on shooting herself in the foot every time she opens her mouth.

Yeah, I can see your point.

:sarcasm:

[ossman]

5. Nobody is trashing his resume dude. He has no guts and doesn't want to do it.

I done kissing his ass.

[Art_from_Ark]

8. No guts? How so?

Just because he didn't get in the mudfest with the other candidates?

What guts have the two remaining candidates shown?

[ossman]

17. By giving up the fight in 2000 and refusing to let BLACK congresspeople speak during procedure

[Art_from_Ark]

20. How was he going to continue?

The Supreme Court ruled against him.
No one stood up for him in the Senate.
The media were against him.
Angry crowds were taunting him at the Naval Observatory, telling him to "get out of Cheney's house" and the rightwingers were screaming for armed rebellion if Gore were allowed to take his rightful place as the 43rd President.

[ossman]

21. Grow some balls. Let the representatives speak. Play rough. Ever heard of that?

I think much worse has happened since.

Wasn't HE and Clinton the HEAD of the US Armed Forces? They were afraid of mad GOPers threatening armed resistence?

Grow a set.

[Art_from_Ark]

24. So they were supposed to call out the army?

Yeah, that would have gone over reeeeeeal well
:eyes:

[bilgewaterbill]

11. I glad you done kissing his ass. Al Gore could have dragged

this country into civil war had he not conceded the presidency. Give up your goal for the good of the country? That's more guts than you'll ever know. Too bad someone else isn't putting their personal goals in the backseat.

[ossman]

18. Yeah. Great decision. How about 4,000 dead soldiers asshole.

[bilgewaterbill]

32. You mean Osshole, don't you?

[cali]

16. You completely miss the point

typical of the real cultists, the gorophiles. The point is that Al didn't run. duh. And handing him the nomination would not unite dems, but fracture them more completely than anything else.

Oh and shove your vile bullshit about both Clinton and Obama. Your spin is dishonest, pathetic and transparent.

I will work and march against an Al Gore installation, and I will NOT vote for him.

[Art_from_Ark]

23. Vile bullshit?

Show me where I am wrong. I have read Obama's reference to Reagan, and it really struck a nerve with me, having lived through the Reagan years and knowing he was a terrible president who helped bring us to the abyss where we are today.

And speaking of cultists, why would anyone want an unproven, inexperienced political neophyte to lead us through these dark times, when we could have a world-respected Nobel Peace Prize winner, for crying out loud?

[cali]

25. Sure. First of all, Obama has been in the Senate for over 3 years now

not two, and he served 8 years in the Illinois Senate. Not to mention that he is a Constitutional scholar. Secondly, he did not praise Reagan; he pointed out, as do virtually all presidential scholars, that Reagan fundamentally changed the trajectory of this country, in the context that he's like to do the same- in the opposite direction. And let's mention while we're at it, that for intelligent people, experience is only one piece of it. Some of the worst presidents had fabulous resumees. Some of the better ones had slim resumee.

And for fook's sake, we can't have Al Gore. He did not run. You guys really are cultist and fantasists. An UNDEMOCRATIC installation of Gore, overturning millions and millions of votes would be the ultimate irony. Sad that you can't see that.

Oh, and Hillary is more than simply Bill's wife. Lose the sexist nonsense.

[Art_from_Ark]

28. So you have no problem with how Gore's votes were overturned?

And Obama did praise Reagan-- he could have cited another Democrat as a role model, but he chose that idiot Reagan instead, and he did not condemn what Reagan did, but rather condemned the events ("excesses of the 60s and 70s", without going into specifics) that caused the conservative backlash that helped Reagan get in.

As far as Hillary is concerned, do you really think she, as an outsider, could have become Senator from New York if her husband had been Joe Schlabotnik instead of Bill Clinton?

[cali]

29. no he did not praise Reagan

that's false. And yes, of course I had a huge problem with what went down in 2000 and with the SC decision. How dare you insinuate that i said or implied anything to the contrary? I don't take kindly to that nonsense. What's ironic is that you gorophiles would have no problem whatsoever overturning the votes of millions of dems to install Gore. Talk about situational ethics.

And I don't know where Hillary would be today had she not married Bill Clinton anymore than I know where Al would be if he hadn't been born to a very influential dem political family. Try using logic sometime. Surely you know that Gore Sr. served both in the U.S. House and the U.S. Senate. Would Al have become Senator from Tennessee if his father's name was Joe Schlabotnik, and he worked in the mill?

[NC_Nurse]

4. The people who think Gore is the Second Coming are not going to listen.

Leave them be. They don't want to give up.

[goldcanyonaz]

6. Dunno, but I hope we don't start trashing Gore around here.

[TAWS]

7. Watch Hillary supporters throw the nomination to Gore if Obama is winning at the convention

Do not underestimate how much they hate Obama.

[goldcanyonaz]

10. You need a hug.

:hug:

[dana_b]

9. because the msm like to stir up s**t

Nothing against Gore, he's a good man. However most of us here voted for a candidate or will vote soon. We want the candidate that WE nominated, not one that big wigs put in place.

[wileedog]

12. Nothing against Gore

But if he really wanted to be President he would have run in the first place.

I'd really rather not "draft" a President at this point given the complete and total mess we are in.

Plus I don't think its fair to either candidate (or their supporters) who have put in the blood, sweat, tears and money that they have just to anoint Gore at the end who never broke a sweat.

To say nothing of all of that disenfranchisement everyone is so up in arms about.

[Art_from_Ark]

13. We were in a total mess in '32

and we drafted a President.

And as it turned out, he did a pretty good job.

[Georgie_92]

14. Ratings.They know that Obama will be the Dem. nominee.

[IndyHatedByBothSides]

15. The only way this would work...

...is with Gore/Obama.

Gore/Edwards would be seen as the party saying "only a white male can get the job done."

Gore/Clinton wouldn't work because...well...we've been through it already.

Gore/Obama would work very well.

[HuffleClaw]

22. it sure would

and toss hillary a supreme court post

[donheld]

19. Pick Gore and 100% of Al Gore is mad!

[Two Americas]

26. let people talk

If this is "a really stupid idea and no one will support it" what is the harm in people talking about it?

People are talking about this because they do not think that either of the two remaining candidates are very strong going into the general. They may be wrong about that - but they could be right, as well - and in either case they have every right to discuss it and to be heard and have their ideas considered.

Lincoln went into the 1860 convention in a distant fourth place. The front runners had the majority of votes within the party, but Lincoln was the second choice of almost all of them and the better candidate in the general election.

Should neither of the two candidates win on the first ballot, that demonstrates that we do not have anything approaching consensus and there is every reason in the world to then open the convention up. Unlike in the general election, winning with 51%, with neither of the two remaining candidates being first choice for the majority of Democrats, is not really any kind of win. The goal is not to force a candidate on the rest of the party, and the second place candidate, Clinton, not only has the right but also the duty to stay in the race regardless of her "chances of winning."

Obama has just not put Clinton away. Wishing and hoping that he has does not change that. Too many people are still voting for Clinton for us to ignore them, ley alone viciously attack them (and I was as opposed to the Clinton candidacy as anyone here) and they have a right to have a voice in the convention. Too many Edwards, Biden and Kucinich supporters are ambivalent and dissatisfied with both candidates. Obama supporters have failed to convert millions of Democrats to the cause. The "we need to pull together now (behind MY candidate of course) to beat the Republicans" argument is fear-mongering and bullying.

We can wish and hope and believe all we want that Obama has swept the field and united the Democrats, but that does not make it so. You can not simultaneously argue that he has done this, and then bitterly attack those who disagree. If there are still people disagreeing, then he has not done that, by definition. Beating up on those who still refuse to go along with the Obama movement only makes things worse.

[Andrea]

33. Thanks, TA

Very good point. "People are talking about this because they do not think that either of the two remaining candidates are very strong going into the general. They may be wrong about that - but they could be right, as well - and in either case they have every right to discuss it and to be heard and have their ideas considered."

I find it very disturbing that so many here are dedicated to shutting down free and open discussion.

I wish the extremist supporters of either remaining candidate would take into consideration that many, if not most, of their candidates votes for the last 2+ months may have come from people who did not originally support them and had to reluctantly choose their 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th choice.

[Jamastiene]

27. Because HE WAS ROBBED!

There, I said it. Now, onto the next thread where someone is overly excited and upset for no apparent reason than the MSM is poking us and we are letting them get to us.

My point:
Nevermind the MSM. We could all be dead from one of Bush's "my way or the highway" speeches where someone attacked us with "nukular" warheads because he pissed them off so much. Does he not make us ALL tear our hair out? Ok, then. The point: The MSM would still be talking long after the "viewership" was dead or holed up in some bomb shelter somewhere all because of Bush and his big huge dumbass mouth. Nevermind the MSM. They are bored and paid to keep talking long after their brains have shut down.

[Hippo_Tron]

30. It's about as ridiculous as Kerry picking Bill Clinton to be his VP in '04

And yes CNN did mention that was a possibility.

[Thepricebreaker]

31. He isnt looking very good lately.. very puffy....

[rodbailey]

34. Actually,

on 60 Minutes this past Sunday I think he looked considerably thinned down from December when he received the Nobel. They showed a picture of him at that ceremony and it is clear he has slimmed some. Probably could stand to lose a few more lbs., but he'll be in trim fighting shape in time for the Convention and then the General Election as the Democratic Party's nominee to sweep McCain back to the Senate and beyond. Believe it!