If you're gonna keep backing HRC, fine, but could you quit just repeating the OFFICIAL PHRASES?

[Ken Burch]

You know the ones:

"Obama needs to be vetted".

"It's GOOD for the party to have this go on"?

And the other three or four yadda yadda yaddas?

Enough already.

Come up with some new material.

"staying on message" is for the GOP. It doesn't fit in a party made up of human beings.

If you want to keep backing your candidate, nobody can stop you, but spare us the endless repetition, please. Use your own words, wouldya?

[kevinmc]

1. "Only Hillary can save us from Sniper Fire"

[flor de jasmim]

2. PERFECT: "staying on message" is for the GOP. It doesn't fit in a party made up of human beings.

I would probably add "rational" as an adjective to human beings...

[crankychatter]

3. you're on to something

""staying on message" is for the GOP. It doesn't fit in a party made up of human beings."

[MonkeyFunk]

4. LOL

:rofl:


This is an April Fools joke, right?

[Ken Burch]

5. No. I'm serious. Just want your fellow HRC backers to stop with the pointless, endless repetition.

Is that asking too much?

(At least YOUR posts are mostly original. Insulting and contemptuous, but original).

[MonkeyFunk]

6. You seriously

don't see the groupthink and groupspeak on your side of the fence? How silly. "Let it sink!" :rofl:

[cboy4]

8. Oh and how about the "call a waaammmbulance" that

we hear every two words? :rofl:

[MonkeyFunk]

11. and notice how the very first response

is a sniper joke.

[cboy4]

7. Ken Burch, you and your followers should look up the

word "hypocrite."

My Lord.

[Ken Burch]

9. We don't just repeat the same four phrases over and over.

And btw, Obama is just as gay-friendly as HRC and both have equal demons. There's no difference between McClurkin and DOMA/DADT. Both are equal inconsistencies and we can assume that HRC will toss gays under the truck like Bill did if she thinks it serves her purposes.

She's not your friend, bro.

[cboy4]

10. She's not my candidate bro....I voted for Edwards.

Now, as for "tossing gays under the truck to serve her purposes," what do you think Obama did regarding McClurkin?

Right, he did the same thing...he allowed McClurkin to perform for his purposes...because he decided it was politically advantageous.

I don't support Hillary as a candidate.

But I am fiercely opposed to the tactics I see being used by *some* Obama supporters here .. which amount to nothing short of thuggery .. and therefore, I'm going to speak up to support my Hillary supporter friends.

[Ken Burch]

12. A speaker at a rally is trivial compared to DOMA and DADT.

And I'm convinced it was a mistake. Obama is not a blithering idiot. There's no way the man would intentionally have pissed off a major part of the Democratic coalition in the hope of appeasing people who would never vote for a Democrat.

And, for the record, I started a thread weeks ago calling on Obama to move even further to rectify the McClurkin thing. Given that that was the only moment in his whole career that was even vaguely antigay, I can't see it as an arguement for the LGBT community to support the less progressive and more estalishment candidate.

[cboy4]

13. It's not trivial Ken, because it has tarnished Obama's

trustworthiness.

Why should I not fear he will change his positions on DOMA and DADT if it's politically advantageous once he were to be in the White House?

Are you saying he got this out of his system, and only behaves this way during a primary election?

I don't happen to trust him.

Sad, isn't it?

[Ken Burch]

18. You should be suspicious of ANY politician's positions.

But you should be EQUALLLY suspicious of HRC's. She's never taken a single risky stand in favor of LGBT people. She'd be voting on the ugly side if she was senator from Arkansas, and you know it.

McClurkin does NOT prove that HRC is more worthy of LGBT support. It proves that Obama is a man and not a god, as most people already knew. And that is all that it proves.

[cboy4]

19. I am suspicious of Hillary's positions, which is why she

has not been my candidate.

And yes, I'm suspicious of any politician's position.

No doubt.

However, I'm not sure what I'm getting with Obama.

Is he going to keep his word about DOMA? Hmmmm. He's already proved he's willing to do what's politically advantageous by allowing McClurkin to mock gay people at the Obama campaign event.

(I'm sure you've seen the video.)

Do I like Hillary's position on DOMA? Nope.

I just think she's more honest with her views, even if I disagree with some of them.

So I'm pretty sure I know what I'd be getting with her.

Therefore, do I think HRC is more worthy of LGBT support? Barely, but yes.

I'm being honest Ken.

Why are you refusing to address the trustworthy issue I keep talking about?

There's a reason so many LGBT DUers are not supporting Obama.

What else could it be?

[Ken Burch]

21. McClurkin was a mistake. Obama did apologize, as I understand it.

And I think a lot of LGBT DU'ers are being manipulated and I think she would've been forgiven for McClurkin by now. Too many people drank the Koolaid about the 90's being "the good-old days". Nobody gets it that Bill 'n Hill left ALL of us out in the cold in order to appease the fearful, the uptight, the flag-groupies and the life-hating right.

And my assumption is that an administration of young, life-filled idealists(which an Obama administration would be)would have to be more progressive and more supportive of all oppressed groups than administration of bitter, arrogant conservative hacks(which is what we all know a HRC adminstration would be, as well as being a passion and hope-free zone).

[cboy4]

22. No, actually he did not apologize.

"...strongly believe that African Americans and the LGBT community must stand together in the fight for equal rights. And so I strongly disagree with Reverend McClurkin’s views and will continue to fight for these rights as President of the United States to ensure that America is a country that spreads tolerance instead of division."

He needed to say, "and therefore, I apologize to the gay community for disregarding their strong feelings and I pledge not to let something like this happen again."

That's what he needs to say, and he won't.

As for your other comments, as I've told countless others who've said the same thing to me .. I decline to get dragged into a who's better debate, since neither candidates are people I voted for in my California Primary.

[Arkansas Granny]

14. You could turn that around and say the same about Obama supporters.

It's happening on both sides.

[Ken Burch]

15. To a far lesser degree though.

And there's been no equivalent of the HRC supporters' practice of simply repeating phrases that started from HRC Campaign Central.

[Arkansas Granny]

17. I suppose that it's a matter of perception.

[readmoreoften]

20. Are you kidding? Obama supporters repeat Drudge and Limbaugh.

If they stuck to their candidate's talking points there wouldn't be a problem really.

[DemVet]

16. Another one..."Obama won't have enough delegates for the Nomination either"