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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:52 AM
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Poll question: Just wondering: How much do you hate the 'other' candidate?
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 06:13 AM by readmoreoften
There's a lot of hate in GD: P. How is that going to pan out in the election? Yes, I know that DU is somehow 'not representative' of 'the real world' (which frankly doesn't make much sense to me--the demographics at DU are all over the board.)

So what's it gonna be?
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:59 AM
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1. If Hillary gets the nomination - I leave the president portion on the ballot blank..
I will never change my mind on that.. EVER
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:12 AM
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12. Anyone....
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 07:16 AM by RichGirl
...regardless of their age, who hates the other candidate and insists they won't vote from them is incredibly immature and is ruled by their ego...and, quite frankly, we don't need them. You need to get over yourself and find a hobby. Because, that's what this election is to you, just a hobby. So, don't waste your time anymore, take up knitting, or bowling or something...and leave the election to those with better judgement.

Remember 2000. How many people voted for Nader because they were convinced that THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BUSH AND GORE. If you haven't learned from that then you must need a brick to hit you on the head. Like the guy on the street on last Friday's Real Time said....if they (dems) just pull someone off the street, he'd vote for them. The difference between republican and democratic is a whole philosophy that goes way beyond your personal likes and dislikes and opinions. To vote for the republican or to not vote at all is putting the last nail in our collective coffins.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:34 AM
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18. ego masturbation should not be done in public.. there is a regular circle jerk at the FreeRepublic
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 07:35 AM by sam sarrha
for their convience
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:52 AM
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24. The irony is...
...Obama does have the ability to inspire people. But, those who hate Hillary and insist they won't vote for her HAVE NOT been inspired by Obama. Are they actually listening to what he says, or are they clouded over with an obsession with his celebrity.

Obama has clearly stated that he intends to unify...not just democrats, but both parties. That means working with and listening to republicans. He's not just going to "reach across the aisle" he intends to eliminate the aisle. He has very clearly expressed his admiration for former republicans, such as GHWB and Reagan. If anyone is truly inspired by Obama, they might as well practice accepting Hillary to prepare them for accepting republicans if he wins.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:00 AM
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26. better judgement?
the woman who blew 20 millions on national polling for her SENATE CAMPAIGN? The woman who did not have Plan B? The woman whose idea of changing her campaign was to let go someone who should NEVER have been hired (soliz-doyle), keeping everyone else intact, AND hiring a new, second polling company in March? The woman who is stiffing her healthc care company, and a hundred small businesses? Who lied about Bosnia, Barack's religion, Ireland, amdn more?

That woman? Mrs. Rodham?
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:15 AM
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35. And that's why we shouldn't vote for her and let the...
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 08:19 AM by RichGirl
...republicans have it again!!! Here's a clue....THEY HAVE ALL MADE THESE KINDS OF MISTAKES and lots of them. Hillary has received much more intense criticism than Obama or any other candidate ever. If you don't see that, you are blind. You could just as easily make an Obama mistake list.

Hasn't it been established that both Kerry and Gore ran very bad campaigns. Does that mean that it was okay that Bush "won".

I think we all need to take ourselves back to right after the 2004 election. Do you remember the site, called "I'm sorry" where we apologize to the rest of the world for putting Bush in office...yet again! We were forgiven for that...but another republican win will be it for us. We will have become the biggest idiots in the world...deservedly so. And what will be our excuse...well, Hillary didn't hire the perfect campaign manager, blah, blah, blah.....

on edit...the site was http://www.sorryeverybody.com/
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:23 AM
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36. n/t
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 08:24 AM by invictus
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:59 AM
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2. To get accurate results you need a seperate section for the Trolls to vote in
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:14 AM
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3. I think something like half of GD:P are trolls
Hmmm. I don't think they're republican trolls though.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:19 AM
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4. i think Trolls are bored 8-12 year olds on Ridalin....
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:29 AM
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5. Are you kidding? Did you just see that report on education?
17 of the top 50 American cities had a higher than 50% high school drop out rate. I bet most 8-12 year olds can't even read or write. Oh wait, they probably read and write better than Republicans. So maybe...
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:57 AM
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8. 50% dropout rate hidden in his Texas NCLB pilot study, it is a plan to destroy public education
and privitize
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:09 AM
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10. Yup.
Makes sense.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:24 AM
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14. now kids are dropping out because th dissfunded schools dont teach algebra but it is on the the test
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 07:29 AM by sam sarrha
is not socioeconomic related , many poor kids dont even understand the questions,

many of the questions are not even relevant to education.

in FL a couple years back they had like.. 12,000 third graders failing the test.. entire schools of 3rd graders, some failing the test for the 3rd time.. where are the law suits the demonstrations.??!!! the test was flawed.

Neil Bu$h http://www.bushwatch.com/bushmillions.html
who warned his criminal friends at Silverado Savings and Loan with White House Inside Information, who dumped their stock and cost the taxpayers
$5,000,000,000.. 2 months later gage him a loan for $22,000,000.. no interest/no repayment schedule.. he has taken that money and started a business tutoring rich kids how to pass his Brothers "Test"

wappropriates 50% more school funds but doesnt allocarte it, siphoning the unspent somewhere else
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:32 AM
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17. The high school around the corner from me is being closed down because of NCLB.
The entire east side of a major American city will have no high school. The problem is the kids don't speak English and they're so poor that their parents expect them to work full time. My question is: what makes them think it's the building's fault? Why ship the kids to other buildings? The school isn't a 'bad' school. It isn't violent. But something like 75% of the kids don't speak English at all and they have to work to support their families. By the end of the semester only 22% of the kids are going to class.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:45 AM
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22. the mexicans invaded our little town, increased the school population by 300% with kids that werent
literate even in spanish.. they bankrupted the community hiring teachers that didn't speak english, they fenced and closed the parks cause of gang/drug activity, no one was safe. i had 5 friends attacked 2 stabbed multiple times.

my brother was the Police Captain for 22 yrs, he quit and moved away

they couldn't get any state or federal aid.. because that would reveal there was a problem..
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:00 AM
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27. "the mexicans invaded our little town" Can't stay whites-only for ever, bud.
"they fenced and closed the parks cause of gang/drug activity, no one was safe. i had 5 friends attacked 2 stabbed multiple times."
Those darn Mexicans and their gangs, drugs, and knives!
Did you join the local Militia?
:sarcasm:

It's amazing the shit that people post here...
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:15 AM
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34. Sometimes it is about racism...but let's not forget to focus on the realities of the situation
In one of the counties in my state this also appears to be a problem. I don't want to use a blanket to cover all Mexicans, because it is not fair, but there are some serious problems with respect to language, drop out rates and violence.

If we are to address the problem, we must be honest about the issues and the root causes. Same for some urban areas where drop out rates and incarceraton affects black men and young black boys.

We can't stick our heads in the sand and say it's all about racism...and white people are evil because it doesn't help.

White flight is real, but then so is black flight. Many neighbors that were once white, went black and now are hispanic..at least from places I've known and now see.





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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:25 AM
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37. sounds like you live in the "Golden Ghetto", you dont have gangs tag'n your mail box. our house was
hit by drive by gunfire 3 times.. we had to move we were run out of our home. before the invasion.. we were 17% mexican we all got along, within 6 years it was 87% mexicans and probably 10% were legal.. good thing they dont take our jobs

we had to drive 18 miles to a grocery store with one 6 blocks away, mexican women rammed my 84 year old mother in the ankles with shopping carts, one women hit her with a purse and knocked her down, i saw both incidents, one woman had her 6 year old boy run a cart into her, i stepped in front of that.. she was 2 feet from being deliberately assaulted. i saw the woman bending over next to the kid whispering in his ear, he got a look of mischievous glee, grabbed the kart and headed toward us as fast as he could go

you don't live in the real world.. you don't have 8' chain link fences with Razor wire on top around your city parks it do you..do people shoot bullets that travel all the way thru your home, if not you are not qualified to comment on our town.. their town now..we're gone
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:47 AM
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38. Wow, what city are you in cuz I don't wanna go. I know there is one gang that is largely Mexican
that's supposed to be the most vicious gang in the nation. Maybe that's the problem. My neighbor is supposedly Blood, but it's not much more than teenagers in red shirts. The other neighbors laugh at them because all they do is wear red shirts--literally. We even found a graffiti stencil of the Cobra symbol the other day. That's the symbol of the evil organization that GI Joe fought.

I moved from the east coast and the neighbor I grew up in is absolutely swamped with gang violence. It's the 12th most dangerous city in the nation out of 400 and some. My parents are afraid to go out after 5pm.

In comparison, yes, this is the Golden Ghetto.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:10 AM
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31. wow
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:12 AM
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32. Well I live in Texas and the white folks sort of 'invaded' first.
My community is peaceful and law abiding, just poor. I like my neighbors. It's a community of home owners who work hard to survive. I wouldn't want to live in an all white area. People can't learn English overnight. We have a free ESL program in the neighborhood that people attend.

I don't care about borders. The poverty is the problem, not people. My motto is 'if you're here, you're from here.' I care more about my neighborhood than I do about where the border is.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:20 AM
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40. i used the term 'Invaded' because this is a State sponsored and supported migration, they are
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 10:34 AM by sam sarrha
exporting the poverty they created to raise the standard of living for the "Haves" in mexico.. as a result mexico has the 7th best standard of living in the world, second only to France.

i had friends from mexico when i lived in el paso tx, the state advertises and bus's them up. the biggest growth industry in mexico is shipping out mexicans to send their american paycheck back to mexico, i believe it is about 5 billion dollars a year, i will try to check to see if that is correct..

they do not allow the indigenous peoples to attend school or vote.. http://blog.aflcio.org/2008/02/08/border-crossings-start-in-the-boardroom

this is a horrific inhumane situation, doing nothing about it is being part of the problem

i have seen classified reports on gangs, they are spreading around the world from California, destabilizing africa in particular and very active in s america, asia and eu. they even started spreading thru Japan. till the Yakaza hunted them down and slaughtered them all. the police stood down till it was over


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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:40 AM
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6. jeezus not another one of these... will you quit worrying pls?
I've utterly DESPISED every Democrat nominated since Smiling Jimmy Carter.

I kept my lip buttoned... looked for the good...campaigned for them when I could... voted for the lesser of evils, just like everyone else in America that votes

So now we have to train a new generation of knuckleheads... give them a break

The only thing that's going to hurt the Democratic Party will be a perceived usurpation of the nomination by unfair tactics

and to quote HRC, referring to the Republican "Plantation" management of their majority, "You KNOW what I'm talking about."

they could pull it off in 67 but not this time... THIS time we will ALL pay
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:19 AM
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13. Hey tell it to the 52% of people in this poll who say they don't vote for the nominee.
I actually think they mean it too.

I hear you, I've voted for the lesser of two evils myself but I don't think this has anything to do with the candidates. I think that Democrats just can't stand each other now. I can't think of a campaign where the candidates were less utterly identical on positions (and on their triangulation and avoidance) than in this campaign, yet somehow people are indignant. My feeling is that people just no longer like one another. I don't think it has much to do with the candidates.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:43 AM
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7. I don't hate either one
.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:07 AM
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9. I'm for Obama but I'll vote for Hillary if it comes down to it.
Only a fool would do otherwise.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:09 AM
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11. Silly why would I hate members of my own party?
that's just plain silly....
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salbi Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:28 AM
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15. There wasn't an option for I don't like the other one but will vote for them.
I always supported Obama but I did like Hillary before this primary season began. I can honestly say I hate her campaign tactics. My opinion of her has dropped but if it comes down to it, i will vote for her as a vote against McCain and hope that she is a good president.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:32 AM
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16. I seriously dislike Hillary's campaign tactics...
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:36 AM
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19. None of the categories fit me
I support Obama, don't like Clinton, but will vote for whomever wins the Dem nomination.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:39 AM
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20. I like both should be I'd vote for either. Sorry. /nt
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:40 AM
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21. I dislike the way Hillary has run her campaign
but I don't think I can quite bring myself to hate her--that's pretty strong.

Some of her supporters are pretty hateful, but I'm willing to look past them.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:47 AM
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23. There's no option for despising the candidate but voting Democratic anyway.
That's where I'm at. Can't stand Clinton, but won't allow McCain to win.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:06 AM
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29. I said above, the category "I like both" should be "I'd vote for either" I was tired. Sorry.
I was more interested in whether or not people will push the button considering their current stance than what their emotions would be as they pull the lever. I was going for a sort of 'behaviorist' poll.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:56 AM
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25. Push poll. I like the person (Clinton) and can't stand the product (Obama) but will vote for either.
And I just voted randomly, as I do in all push polls.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:03 AM
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28. Uh, what is this 'pushing' towards?
It may be an imperfect poll but I'm not trying to 'push' anyone. Sorry I'm not a fucking demographics Ph.D. here.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:07 AM
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30. Why not put I will vote for both if either wins the nom.?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:12 AM
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33. That's I like both. /nt
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:51 AM
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39. yes. don't like one but would vote for both
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