TX: Collin County Democrats' convention violated TX law (state delegation could be at risk)

[rainbow4321]

For those not local, this county convention went from Sunday afternoon at about 1 pm TIL 7 AM MONDAY MORNING. Yes, 7 am. And lots of people checked in early so they had gotten there Sunday morning. HRC's delegate challenges led to much of the 20+ hour wait.



http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/local/stories/DN-collin_01pol.State.Edition1.3862844.html


Collin County Democrats apparently violated state law by holding their convention Sunday, and as a result, their delegation to the state Democratic convention could be in danger of losing its seats.

Texas law requires that the convention be held Saturday, but Democrats said they could not find a proper venue for that day, opting instead to hold their convention Sunday at the Frisco Convention Center.

If a voter challenges the delegation's right to participate at the state convention, a credentials committee would decide the dispute.

And if the Collin delegation wins, the state delegation could be at risk at the national convention. Someone there could argue that because part of the Texas contingent was chosen in violation of state law, it is invalid. That challenge would be decided by the national convention's credentials committee. Garry Mauro, Hillary Rodham Clinton's Texas campaign chairman, said the campaign would not challenge the Collin County delegation.

[WolverineDG]

1. If I were Hillary

I wouldn't be worrying about Collin County. Just a thought.

dg

[rainbow4321]

3. It's not just about Collin County...it could threaten TX delegate credentials in Denver

Article implies the entire TX delegation seating could be questioned by the credentials people in Denver and put their being counted at risk.

[WolverineDG]

9. If it's not challenged at State

then anyone who tries to challenge the Texas Delegation at national will be SOL.

dg

[marshall]

15. If Hillary thinks there's a leg up for her she will try to torpedo the Texas delegates

Nevermind that it contradicts her approach in other states.

[DerekJ]

2. I'd think she would lose her own supporters in Collin County, if she did that,

[WolverineDG]

8. She's already losing supporters across the state

I've even heard some here locally are switching at state because of what transpired in my county on Saturday.

dg

[crispini]

4. I thought they got a waiver from the SDEC.

I don't have a link, but I assumed that they did. If they didn't, yeah, they do have problems. OMG. Poor them. :(

[C_U_L8R]

5. Stop digging Hillary

Howe many times do you need to lose Texas?

[rox63]

6. After all those challenges, I'm sure some delegates are pissed at the Clinton people

If that's what kept them there until 7:00 AM on Monday.

[thevoiceofreason]

7. Each state's party comes up with its own rules

The state party allowed Collin County to move its convention because of necessity. As long as ou don't violate national (DNC) rules, you are fine. My point is that I don't think someone outside of Texas has standing to challenge Texas credentials because of the Texas delegation's compliance with (or not) Texas state rules.

[crispini]

10. Hey, I have a question for you about challenges.

Not having a copy of the TDP rules handy right this second, I was just wondering about all those challenges that the Clinton people brought. At SD-16, one Clinton supporter brought the bulk of the challenges. The thing is that I thought the challenger had to reside in the political subdivision. In the case of a challenge to a precinct, that would be the precinct. So how did the Credentials committee get away with letting one person challenge multiple precincts? When he obviously doesn't live in multiple precincts. Or am I wrong in my recollection of the rule?

Cheers! :toast:

[thevoiceofreason]

11. Cheers back at ya!

I think you are technically correct. When I get to the office, I'll check the rules.

[crispini]

12. Man!

I almost hope I'm not right.

Because my buddy on the Credentials committee will have a chicken if I am right and I tell him he could have shut this guy down and they wasted, like, HOURS on his bullshit. :rofl:

[HopeforChange]

13. It depends if they convened and then reconvened on Sunday.

You have to start on Saturday but there is no rule that says they have to end on Saturday.

[LiveLiberally]

14. I doubt there will be a challenge either at the State level or at the Convention....

The fact is that the two Collin County conventions together elected only 179 delegates to the State Convention: 62 for Clinton, 117 for Obama. Even if these delegates were not seated at the State Convention, the number of delegates excluded would not be enough to change the ratio of Clinton to Obama delegates to the National Convention. This is small potatoes -- but it does provide one more reason (as if we needed more) why Texas needs to reform its hybrid primary/caucus process.

Link to Burnt Orange Report's county #'s: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pCVgf3tYDGBevq1NB-GJHdw

[WolverineDG]

18. Unless you are from Texas

you don't get to have a say in how we do things. If you are, well, good luck getting that past Resolutions....

dg

[powergirl]

16. Clinton won't challenge the results - see the last sentence of the article

It says so in the post - last sentence of the article

"Garry Mauro, Hillary Rodham Clinton's Texas campaign chairman, said the campaign would not challenge the Collin County delegation."

She would risk ALL OF HER delegates from Collin County and the State of Texas, and she cannot afford that. Believe me, if it somehow gave her an advantage, it would happen.

All is well.




:toast:

[dsc]

17. gee what happened to endless mantras about rules

Isn't this pretty much what Florida did, hold their caucus on a different day than they were supposed to? But I guess some rules matter more than other rules.

[WolverineDG]

19. Take it up with the State Party

If they asked for a waiver & were given one by the Party, it's okay. FL & MI moved up their primaries DESPITE the national party telling them they couldn't do it.

dg