Hillary's Bowling Remarks Just Shown on MSNBC...

[CherokeeDem]

I supported Edwards and I have tried to stay neutral but I am now for Obama and Hillary's comments using bowling as an analogy just sealed the deal for me. Taking Obama's bowling clip and using bowling terms to say things like, "He should take his campaign out of the gutter" is childish. How little they must have to say if they have to frame (yeah, I know...a bowling reference)their debate using such language. Should Obama start talking about his abilities based on Hillary "misspeaking" her Bosnia experience? I doubt he would. When you have to use that kind of rhetoric...you really have nothing else to say.

[uponit7771]

1. Lack of character and creativity. I'm now starting to think she wouldn't make a good president but..

...she'll be worlds better than the idiot that is currently in the White House.

[CherokeeDem]

5. Can't Argue that She Would Be Better Than *

but how much better is the question. Don't get me wrong, I'll vote for her is she is the nominee; I just don't have to like it.

[Tellurian]

57. It's an April Fool Joke...lighten up!

[krkaufman]

77. No, it was a political statement.

The following line took the statement from jolly April Fools Day fun to a typical Clinton smear, catapulting her propaganda...

"It is time for his campaign to get out of the gutter and allow all the pins to be counted."

No one's saying she can't say such things, but don't tell me she's just kidding around. It was a calculated, prepared statement, intended to propagate the distortions she's been promoting for weeks.

[Yukari Yakumo]

71. Given her arrogance and her lack of hubris...

I would say not by much.

I'll vote for her if she's the legitimate nominee.
But if she steals the nom in one way or another... no way in hell.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

76. I don't Hillary, but she has to be better than McCain.

Even if I have to hold my nose, I'll vote for her during the GE, because a corporate dem will never drag us through hell the way republicans do.

[pocoloco]

26. Nobody got a calender???

[virgdem]

2. Pay that woman no mind...

she's just projecting because it's her campaign that's really been in the gutter now for two months or so. When Richarson endorsed Obama, he as much as called her campaign a "gutter campaign." If the shoe fits...

[polpilot]

17. I wish Obama would start ducking before every speech and saying, 'Was that sniper fire?'

[shadowknows69]

48. Obama wouldn't cheapen the experience of our troops that way

Like Hillary did with the lie.

[Zhade]

73. She's done anyway.

NT!

[meow mix]

3. i never bowled before, NO WAY in hell i would have done that.

kudos to obama for doing something he obviously never tried before lol

[krkaufman]

78. Note that he hadn't bowled in 30 years, and did camn well after the first 2 frames.

(and the reported score counts only the first 6 frames, excluding Obama's spare in the 7th)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5344425&mesg_id=5355666

[ericgtr]

4. She's turned this race into trash - The hypocrisy in that line is unbelievable

and become a very sad and desperate human being. It's really too bad that she will fail in this election with no dignity left, it will probably hurt her as a Senator as well. Oh well, she dug the hole.

On the bowling note, I think supporters for Obama will be happy to concede that Hillary is a better bowler.

[slinkerwink]

8. Nixon was a great bowler too.

[krkaufman]

79. "Hillary is a better bowler" ... really? What evidence is there?

Short of any past scorecards for Hillary, I'd be tempted to put my money behind Obama. Putting aside the first 2 frames, he was doing pretty well.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5344425&mesg_id=5355666

[Arugula Latte]

6. If only Obama had acted more like Hillary, like propping up McCain

:eyes:

I am done with the Clintons. Done, done done.

[NDambi]

7. Of course they have nothing else...

[Cha]

66. Check out that bulletin board! "clinton's Dirt Machine"!

Obama's kindergarten paper and the osama picture tacked up to the right of Obama's pic.

[NDambi]

72. LOL I know..I love it

[gateley]

9. Are we SURE she hasn't used that term

before his bowling debut?

There's plenty of other things she says that are questionable, we don't need to add more than is actually there. :shrug:

I just hate seeing supporters being silly and over-reacting.

Of course, I could be wrong, just asking.

[jillan]

10. I don't know what they showed at msmbc - but CNN showed her challenging Obama to a

bowling match - and it was hilarious.

Me thinks some people fail to see the humor.

[TexasLady]

13. hmmm, basketball duel anyone?

[jillan]

16. They should.

Then they'd be even....(I'm guessing Hillary is a better bowler than Obama)

[beachmom]

58. I can't back the basketball match. It would be too patently unfair to Hillary.

Obama plays basketball nearly every day. Plus it's more a contact sport. Nope, won't work. But Obama v Hillary bowling for FUN (not delegates, duh) is a good idea. For the sake of party unity. I dare them to do it.

[woolldog]

62. How about a boxing match?

[CherokeeDem]

15. What Was Shown on MSNBC...

was not funny to me at all. I think tone and delivery make thing funny...she is no comedienne. I like TexasLady's idea...how 'bout basketball!!!!

[jillan]

18. Well that's too bad that msnbc has lost their sense of humor.

Sounds like they're not the only ones.

[Ino]

65. I'm sure she meant it to be funny...

...like when she said, "now the fun part starts" and "change you can xerox." But, as with everything else out of her mouth, her jokes sound like she has a huge chip on her shoulder.

Still, it didn't bother me as much as Joe Scarborough prefacing the bowling story yesterday with "Americans like their presidents to be REAL men, but..." He was still ragging on it today.

[Cha]

67. My son called me from Kauai today

to specifically ask me if I'd been "blogging" and did I hear about the "bowling comment" from hilary? I said I saw something about whatever she said wasn't very funny and he said NO it wasn't.

Then at looked at the screen and read your thread to him! That's the first I'd heard about the "the gutter" campaign and they "would be sure and count all 10 pins"!!

And the m$$$$m is just eating up hilary's Jerry Springer Show.

[rodeodance]

36. NPR now talking about it --they knew it a Ap. fool joke --

[JackORoses]

45. maybe it was hilarious to people who think Larry the Cable Guy is a genius

most everyone else is laughing at her, not with her.

[tishaLA]

51. more like Gallagher and Carrot Top

[Cha]

68. My son said it went over like a

"hannible lector joke".

[wrando]

11. you is a phony

[CherokeeDem]

14. And Exactly Why Am I A Phony?

Or should I say " Why IS I a phony.

[wrando]

64. you is a liar to boot!

[otohara]

12. Smirks, Tone, Attitude

it's all such a turn off girlfriend.

[Tarc]

19. I love how the newbie "I'm now supporting Obama" posts get praised

while the "I'm now supporting Clinton" ones get locked;

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5327577

[CherokeeDem]

22. Not A Newbie...

Been around since 2001, just didn't have much time for posting until recently. Been a Democratic activist for many, many years. I suppose threads get locked when posters get out of hand.

[Catherine Vincent]

38. Too many posts and sub posts were deleted.

The Hillary hate is strong in here.

[C_U_L8R]

20. She'd cheat the scoresheet

when no one was looking.

[Cha]

69. And then tear it up and later claim she bowled

300 in spite of the sniper fire going on around her(only her though).

[monmouth]

21. I think she may be going through a "mini breakdown" mentally. Totally

reaching a level I never thought her capable of. It's as if she really is just shooting off her mouth, just begging him to come down to her level. As much as I really dislike her, I'm feeling sorry for her now.

[jillan]

23. It was an April Fools joke --- here --

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5344406

Obama should reply and have some fun with this.

[CherokeeDem]

27. MSNBC ....

did not run her last line in the segment I saw...so maybe she was making a joke. However, a very bad joke and not very original.

[rodeodance]

32. stupid msnbc---

Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Lighten up people - it is April Fools, and Hillary was having a little fun with Obama
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5344406#5344406
5344406, Lighten up people - it is April Fools, and Hillary was having a little fun with Obama
Posted by pirhana on Tue Apr-01-08 04:10 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23903195 /

"This has been a very hard fought race," she said. "We clearly need to do something so that our party and our people can make the right decision. So, I have a proposal."

"Today, I am challenging Senator Obama to a bowl-off," Clinton said, provoking relieved laughs from the assembled scribes.

Clinton carried on, making reference to Obama's disastrous outing at a Pennsylvania bowling alley Saturday.

"A bowling night. Right here in Pennsylvania. The winner take all," she went on. "I'll even spot him two frames."





"It is time for his campaign to get out of the gutter and allow all the pins to be counted. I'm prepared to play this game all the way to the tenth frame. When this game is over, the American people will know that when that phone rings at 3 a.m., they'll have a president ready to bowl on day one."

"Let's strike a deal and go bowling for delegates. We don't have a moment to spare, because it's already April Fool's Day. Happy April Fool's Day."

[jillan]

The audience was cracking up.

Too bad people have to be so serious all the time.

[krkaufman]

80. No, it was a political statement, calculated to appear as a joke.

"It is time for his campaign to get out of the gutter and allow all the pins to be counted."

Those not in Jasmine's thrall can see her for what she is.

[Life Long Dem]

25. She has nothing to lose. Obama has the Presidency to lose.

Thanks Hillary supporters.

[Joe the Revelator]

24. Lighten up kid

Its not that serious.

[CherokeeDem]

31. Kid?

Thanks...I haven't been called that in awhile!!!!

[Cha]

70. Or not..if that's what it took to make

you see hilary for what she is then please be serious.:)

I don't it's "lightweight" to equate Obama's campaign to his bowling score in the gutter. It's fucking stupid is what it is. And, she said they're "going to count all 10 pins"! Sly dog reference to her lying about it being Obama's fault that MI and FL aren't getting counted and now she's saying Obama doesn't want the votes counted in North Carolina?!

[zonkers]

28. Bowling is the #1 participant sport in America. O is no fool. I'd like to see Hillary bowl.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

39. Wrong.

Bowling is not a sport.

[K Gardner]

29. It was mouth-droppingly pathetic.

[CherokeeDem]

33. I Agree...

Even if it was her idea of an April Fool's joke..it was silly and not funny.

[jillan]

46. It was an April Fools joke - omg -

I heard msnbc didn't play all of her remarks...

She was challenging him to a bowling match for delegates.

Here -
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23903195/

At least their website got it right.

[tishaLA]

52. She can try to backtrack all she wants. Maybe she can

later claim she misspoke

[jillan]

53. If you would read the msnbc link, you would see the humor.

Then again . . .

[tishaLA]

56. ....

I know it is. But I just want to jump into an outrage-fest every now and then.

[rodeodance]

30. Lighten up----it was an April fools day joke--see this.

Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Lighten up people - it is April Fools, and Hillary was having a little fun with Obama
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5344406#5344406
5344406, Lighten up people - it is April Fools, and Hillary was having a little fun with Obama
Posted by pirhana on Tue Apr-01-08 04:10 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23903195 /

"This has been a very hard fought race," she said. "We clearly need to do something so that our party and our people can make the right decision. So, I have a proposal."

"Today, I am challenging Senator Obama to a bowl-off," Clinton said, provoking relieved laughs from the assembled scribes.

Clinton carried on, making reference to Obama's disastrous outing at a Pennsylvania bowling alley Saturday.

"A bowling night. Right here in Pennsylvania. The winner take all," she went on. "I'll even spot him two frames."





"It is time for his campaign to get out of the gutter and allow all the pins to be counted. I'm prepared to play this game all the way to the tenth frame. When this game is over, the American people will know that when that phone rings at 3 a.m., they'll have a president ready to bowl on day one."

"Let's strike a deal and go bowling for delegates. We don't have a moment to spare, because it's already April Fool's Day. Happy April Fool's Day."

[butterfly77]

40. I wouldn't be surprise if the media ...

doesn't start trying to make it happen for real, they really don't want to talk about the real issues.

[rodeodance]

34. NPR now talking about it --they knew it a Ap. fool joke --

[ekwhite]

35. Dude - it is April Fool's day - it was a joke!

Lighten up.

[Beacool]

37. This place has become way too surreal!!!

It's April 1st folks!!! Hillary made a joke about challenging Obama to a bowl off. What is the matter with some of you????? I find more congeniality in the conservative blogs than in one which purports to be "Democratic".

Disgusting...........

[Vinca]

41. Apparently Hillary can't tell a joke very well. nt

[Life Long Dem]

42. A lot of booing when she said that gutter comment.

[zulchzulu]

43. She's set up as a bowling pin and we knocked her down

Game over, Hillary.

[ronnykmarshall]

44. There's a lot of large trees crammed up asses.

[Life Long Dem]

47. That's like saying.

Over the gutter comment and using the April fools as a joke.

It's like saying: "Fu*ck You!! - April fools!!"

[Madam Mossfern]

49. Obviously many don't know what a real April fool's joke is

You're supposed to "fool" (play a harmless trick) someone, not make fun of them. That was just an excuse to be just a wee bit over the top with the gutter comment. She should have left that out. Does she not have ability to edit her own remarks, or does she just recite them as written for her?

[rodeodance]

55. get a sense of humor---most BO folks "get It"---wanta crap some more?

[Madam Mossfern]

61. never mind

it's not worth it

[Warren DeMontague]

50. "He should take his campaign out of the gutter" ba-dump-bump.

We're here all month, folks. Don't forget to tip your waiters!

[jillan]

54. Take it out of the gutter "and count all the pins"

Lighten up.

[Warren DeMontague]

74. Certainly, there's nothing funnier than a really bad pun.

I'm not laughing with her, I'm laughing at her.

[TacticalPeek]

59. This OP and the hopelessly ironic outrage from those offended epitomize what DU has become sadly.

If y'all were challenged to see who could write the stupidest post based on misinterpretation with delegates as the prize, and you lost, you'd probably hand over the delegates.

Plant, water and grow a clue.

[NYDem Observer]

60. Seriously, it wasn't a big deal at all

it was an April Fools joke.

[TacticalPeek]

63. OTOH, if the OP is a send-up for April Fools Day, you got me good

and several others.

:)

[BzaDem]

75. Are you joking?

It was a joke! I thought it was funny. Maybe you didn't. But it was a joke. That's it. I can't believe what this place has become.