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Tue Apr-01-08 07:10 PM
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O.K., Here Goes Nothing. . . |
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I'll speak plainly, the only way I know how. Nothing fancy here.
I'm sort of posting this on a dare to myself, just to see if I'd do it. Maybe I should have posted this in the "sanctuary thread." I will probably stay out of GDP, and maybe should have stayed out till after the primary. Maybe I'll come back here as GD-P(Politics) at a later time. I am supporting Hillary, with absolutely no apologies. As some of you here might know, it was a process for me. I'm a Clarkie from way back, but his endorsement did not make my vote for Hillary automatic. But after thinking about it for a long time, for me, it came down to one word, experience. As far as not voting for Obama goes, my vote for Hillary is not necessarily an anti-Obama vote. I think Obama needs more time, and don't see the urgency right now. Who knows, under certain circumstances, I could be a strong Obama supporter, some day. I know I was on one of the "lists," so I hope it's cool that I've posted this. You'll see no vile, nasty, or "calling out" posts from me. If I do, let me know. I fuck up every now and then.
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:12 PM
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1. A reasonable sentiment |
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:14 PM
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Tue Apr-01-08 09:18 PM
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41. Thanks, a nice post, and please don't take this wrong |
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I still am baffled by what exactly her experience is, that qualifies her better than Obama? Truly, sincerely. I don't get it.
The only thing I can figure is that because Bill would be there with her in the White House, people feel more comfortable. It's a "known" whereas Obama is an "unknown."
If she were running completely on her own, and he completely out of the picture, would you feel the same confidence in her experience? This is an earnest question.. please don't take it as an attack.
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Tue Apr-01-08 10:54 PM
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50. Not Taking It As An Attack At All |
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Bill doesn't have much to do with it.
For me, it's her experience fighting the repuke attack machine, her experience as U.S. Senator, and being re-elected to that position, her experience as a mother, her foreign policy experience, and there's more, but to be honest, I was home sick today, and if I wasn't so lazy, I'd give you more. I'll try to put something together a little more coherent later on. Thank you for your question, it's one for HIllary and Obama supporters to think about. I don't think I "get it" either for Obama supporters, but I will try to figure it out.
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Tue Apr-01-08 11:48 PM
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51. Thanks very much, I appreciate the thoughfulness of your response. |
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Sorry you're sick. That's enough or a response for me if you don't feel like writing more but I"d also welcome more if you're feeling inspired.
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:14 PM
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I'm not quite so nice... I prefer a zinger or two these days because civil discourse is pointless here these days... at least until the primaries are over ... but i'm going to K & R you because I admire your attitude :)
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:18 PM
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4. Were you on the 40 Most Awesome DUers" list? |
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Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 07:24 PM by sniffa
No, but I was. :woohoo:
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:21 PM
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5. Somehow I Don't Think So (nt) |
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:24 PM
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6. did you mean to say were or we're? |
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:27 PM
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Tue Apr-01-08 09:36 PM
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Where's that list? Am I on it? Why didn't I get a PM? Where's my limo? Why did Diebold get to count the votes????? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?????????????????????????????????????????
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:24 PM
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7. Kudos on an honest post. |
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I do appreciate your sentiment. and you've not been any of my "lists" and of course, it's cool to me that you've posted. Here's my humble reply.
I also like the "experience" thing. But, for me, experience in Washington is not what I'm looking for. It just says status quo to me. The kind of experience I am looking for is the kind that Obama has. Pounding the pavement going to door-to-door to talk to people. Community organizing. Experience in bringing people together and getting them riled up about change that is so much needed in the political atmosphere of our times. Inspiring people to give a shit about their country again and take it back from the war-mongers, the corporatists, the typical us vs. them, redstate/bluestate charlatans.
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to share my view with you.
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:06 PM
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20. One of the most compelling pro-Obama posts I've seen. |
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And you did it without skewering Hillary and her supporters. It would be wonderful if we all acted more like you! :hi:
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Tue Apr-01-08 09:17 PM
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40. Thanks... (blushing) But aren't we all in this together? |
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Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 09:17 PM by parasim
We are at a turning point in history here and we really can't afford to fuck it up. Skewering each other ain't gonna get us anywhere, in my opinion.
I'm for Obama, but if Hillary's in there as the nominee, then I'll fight tooth and nail for her to win it. We drastically need a change in course.
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Tue Apr-01-08 10:34 PM
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:07 PM
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And I read it all. Thank you.
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Tue Apr-01-08 09:19 PM
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42. You're welcome. and thanks for considering my opinion. |
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We are all in this together. :pals:
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:32 PM
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34. I WAS gonna respond to that, but you "drank ...my...MILKSHAKE! YOU DRANK IT UP!" :-) |
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Tue Apr-01-08 09:22 PM
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43. I'm not even sure what that means... |
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but, I'm old and not so sure of the parlance of our times... but :hi: anyway.
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Tue Apr-01-08 09:55 PM
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48. Every candidate runs on change and they all portray themselves as outsiders. |
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You will see this stuff in McCain's campaign in due time. You saw it in W's. It's recycled hogwash. Obomba has been a politician a good long time and he hasn't changed a freaking thing.
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:25 PM
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8. That was my position before I watched and listened to him. |
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Although Hillary would not have been my first choice for dem nominee because of her voting record and her lack luster control of corruption in congress I cannot totally dismiss her because I know we cannot have another republican anywhere near the oval office.
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:26 PM
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9. From one Clarkie to another... |
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:30 PM
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like NAFTA, Bosnia, bankruptcy bill and the Iraq war.
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:30 PM
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We'll see you in the other forums. :hi:
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:31 PM
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13. Good to see you again, Dinger! |
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:hi:
Glad you're back. :-)
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:35 PM
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:37 PM
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15. Off to the Greatest Page with ya ... |
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:09 PM
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I feel like I'm famous or something:blush:
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:39 PM
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16. I *do* see the urgency right now. |
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Which is why I cannot support Hillary.
Cheers anyhow. :toast:
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:50 PM
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17. I respect your decision |
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although I have come to a different conclusion. I hope we can join forces to kick McCain's ass once the dust has settled, regardless of who the our nominee is.
:toast:
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:57 PM
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18. What a nice civil post, with nice civil responses. |
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:11 PM
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23. We Will My Friend, We Will |
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:58 PM
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Everybody supports who they think is best for the gig. That's the idea.
Democracy. Pretty cool concept.
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:17 PM
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25. April fools!!--i got it. |
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That's all well and good. BUT SHE LOST THE NOMINATION
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:45 PM
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37. Well it is mathmatically POSSIBLE for Clinton to win |
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But it is also mathmatically POSSIBLE for the dollar to reverse its downward spiral tomorrow.
I know, I'm nit-picking.......Obama is the most likely winner, and the sooner Hillary supporters get that message, the better for the party.
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:18 PM
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:19 PM
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Best of luck to you and your candidate, Dinger.
May the Democrat win in November 08!!!
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:25 PM
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29. Very reasonable post Dinger. |
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Thank you for sharing. Please disregard all of the posts that tell you that she has no chance to win. People have every right to stick with their candidate until the end.
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:26 PM
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30. Not sure how you can support a proven liar who "dodges" nonexistent sniper fire... |
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...but you have to live with endorsing lies, not me.
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:27 PM
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Experience is definitely going to be a GE issue of major concern to the American Voters.
Here is to knowing political reality! Wes would make a great VP or DoD!
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:29 PM
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:31 PM
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33. I am sorry to hear this. I hope you will do more research and reconsider judgment in the equation. |
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:38 PM
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35. High percentage of postive replies.....Dinger for U.N. delegate! |
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Tue Apr-01-08 09:03 PM
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38. Oh Stop, You're Making Me |
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Tue Apr-01-08 08:41 PM
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36. An honest supporter of Clinton, I respect that |
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So which state do you vote in?
What is going on for you that Hillary is better able to tackle and solve?
Nice that you are not ANTI Obama
I like your honesty, I wish I saw that from all Hillary supporters.
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Tue Apr-01-08 09:04 PM
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North central, kinda rural here.
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Tue Apr-01-08 09:22 PM
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44. Hey Dinger, I have a LONG ignore list, and you were never on it. |
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I don't think I could put someone on ignore who has your avatar, anyway. :)
Sometime just for grins, I'd love for the admins to post the record for the longest ignore list. (With no names of the ignored or ignorer, just a number for us mega-ignorers to compare to.)
It's a blood pressure thing, and I haven't passed it around. And you were never on it. So there! :P
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Tue Apr-01-08 09:33 PM
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45. Im sure Dinger will jump for joy upon hearing that awesome news (snicker) |
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Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 09:34 PM by mtnsnake
lol
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Tue Apr-01-08 09:39 PM
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My experience was similar, and I opted for Obama. Anyone who wants to give you a hard time for this post is a jerk.
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