Clinton owes $110,000 in IA: UNI, NCC among those owed (Waterloo/Cedar Falls Courier)

[Debi]

http://www.wcfcourier.com/articles/2008/04/01/news/top_story/10238510.txt

DES MOINES --- When Hillary Clinton's campaign high-tailed it out of state after the caucuses, it left more than $110,000 in unpaid bills to Iowa businesses the presidential candidate had yet to repay nearly two months later, federal election records show. Some vendors received payment in March.In all, the Clinton campaign reported more than $8.7 million in campaign debt as of the end of February, according to reports filed with the Federal Election Commission. Presumptive Republican Party nominee John McCain reported more than $1.3 million in unpaid bills, and Democratic hopeful Barack Obama logged $625,000. None of McCain's bills were from Iowa, while about $11,000 of Obama's were, according to the same FEC filings.

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"The thing that concerns me about the Clinton campaign is they continue to spend money imprudently. You saw that in Iowa with the helicopter tours, the snow shovels," said Dave Nagle, a former Iowa congressman and former chair of the Iowa Democratic Party. "It appears to me they have a Chevrolet budget on the asset side and they have a Cadillac expenditure account."

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"Nobody likes to have to wait for their bills to be paid," said Doug Miller, manager of the National Cattle Congress and a former chairman of Republicans of Black Hawk County. The Clinton campaign, which rented a facility for a pre-caucus event, was billed Jan. 3 --- the day of the caucuses, Miller said. The candidate ponied up the sum March 9, but has yet to pay $89.59 in late fees the NCC assessed, Miller said. "I'm still waiting for that," Miller said.

The New York senator's unpaid bills could have ramifications for the candidate later this year, Nagle said."The fact that local Iowa school districts, fair grounds, grocery stores haven't been paid certainly doesn't give a lot of inspiration to people like the Edwards people who are undecided," Nagle said.

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[Yael]

1. K&R

[Cha]

2. Money Quote..

"The New York senator's unpaid bills could have ramifications for the candidate later this year, Nagle said."The fact that local Iowa school districts, fair grounds, grocery stores haven't been paid certainly doesn't give a lot of inspiration to people like the Edwards people who are undecided," Nagle said."

The hilicopter went over well I see.

[Debi]

3. Not too many here impressed with the 'hillicopter'

Glad she at least paid for THAT! :hi:

[Strelnikov_]

8. The 'hillicopter' was when I knew Obama had a shot

Just a little too contrived for us simple country folk.

[Debi]

10. Problems were obvious w/how much she was paying staff and how many staff she had

campaign kids would gather at a pub downtown after hours - a couple from Biden - a couple from Edwards and a dozen from Clinton x(

Her campaign hired up as many experienced staff as it could (and early on) and when a $$ offer would be made to someone that the campaigns were competing for Clinton would come in with a blow away amount!

$140 million spent through the caucuses? :wow:

[Strelnikov_]

4. Iowa does not count n/t

[Debi]

5. Ha ha ha ha ha - More like Hillary can't count (how much she still owes Iowa!)

:rofl:

[VolcanoJen]

16. Iowa doesn't count to her bookkeepers...

... that's pretty clear.

Jesus, why isn't this bigger news?

[Debi]

22. If there is only one candidate what will the media do for fun? They need her to stay in the race...

So.....

[marshall]

6. Those businesses should have had better sense than to take credit

And charging her late fees? What are they thinking?

[Debi]

7. Why not charge late fees? The county fair grounds have operating costs

and need to be paid.

Don't give credit? To a campaign that came into Iowa with $13,000,000 Cash on Hand?

[Zachstar]

9. K&R let us keep pointing out the fund situation with Clinton.

If people know where their donations are going towards... It may help to convince more that she needs to exit.

Perhaps I am mistaken but can you not use donations to pay back debts? I think she needs to use all donations from this point forward to pay any debt her campaign has.

The last thing we need is another spend fist maybe pay later president.

[Debi]

11. You can only use primary contributions for primary expenses

general election funds cannot be used for primary expenses.

Meaning???

Even if Clinton is the nominee these small vendors, communities, school districts and colleges will get shafted (unless folks will give her primary dollars ... yeah right :crazy:)

I recommend that anyone who wants to give Clinton $$ they should first go to her debt list and pay a past due bill (from Iowa??!!) and have the receipt sent to the Clinton campaign as an in kind contribution.

[Diana Prince]

12. Penn & Wolfson must be livin' large

I'm guessing they demand payment upfront.

[Debi]

13. I think they have 'deferred' their billing

:crazy:

so it doesn't show up as debt

Yeah, I'm sure they'll get paid ... some way.

[merh]

14. no she doesn't

one of her supporters just told me she doesn't because it hasn't been on MSM and its a non-story

so just stop it right now, she raised 3 million and I am sure she paid her debts, one of her supporters told me so :crazy:

[Debi]

19. THE BILLS ARE BEING PAID - what a great campaign slogan! n/t

[merh]

30. it's so blessed sad

those little people should just stop getting in the way of greatness :grr:

[Debi]

32. I won't post them here

but have you seen the Hillary as queen pics on the internets? :rofl:

[merh]

34. google is my friend, right?

;)

[Debi]

36. I just didn't want to get the spammers all in a tizzy n/t

[merh]

38. You need to check this out

it is a hoot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skIlZflDs9Y

[Debi]

39. Oh MY!

:spray:

[merh]

40. you have to admit

this campaign does offer lots of material for comics and satirists. :evilgrin:

[Life Long Dem]

29. Also, Hillary supporters don't like the attacks on her!

There is so much more negative attacks on Hillary from the Obama camp and must stop! Stop it please! So try to refrain from posting negative stories like this toward her!! Please! :sarcasm:

[Debi]

33. If she'd pay her bills there'd be positive stories about her being RESPONSIBLE

Oh.....nevermind. x(

[Duder]

15. Debt Be Not Proud

'The $8.7 million in debts owed by Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign as of her last Federal Election Commission filing deadline are staggering for their breadth and range.

The debts date back to last Fall, to states long ago decided -- an October 10 event in New Hampshire,for instance, for which the Boston Symphony Orchestra is listed as being owed $29,617.70.

Iowa Hy-Vee supermarkets are owed $14,956.24.

Seemingly every facet of human existence is represented in Clinton's unpaid bills. Atlanta's Catering with a Flair, Inc. -- owed $10,250.00. The Texas portapotties of A Clean Portoco -- owed $1,851.08.

Aetna Healthcare - owed $228,841.30. CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield - owed $62,744.52.

Schools and universities seem particularly hard-hit, as they were frequent locations for events, and often offer catering.

Southern New Hampshire Univ. Athletic Department - $9,542.80. San Diego State University - $10,000.00. Cuyahoga Community College $3,540.00. Dartmouth College - $2,489.00.

Clinton owes $3,161 to Maine South High School in Park Ridge, Illinois.

That's her own alma mater!'

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/debt-be-not-pro.html

[Debi]

20. Yep, screw the 'little guy' I'M GONNA BE PRESIDENT!

x( too bad little guys vote, eh?

[City Lights]

17. Didn't Kiki say today that her bills were "taken care of?"

By "taken care of," I thought she meant "paid." I certainly hope Kiki wouldn't misremember or misspeak about something so serious.

[Liberal Gramma]

18. Maybe THAT'S why she was meeting with Richard Mellon Scaife

He has more money than brains

[Debi]

21. With what?

at her burn rate for contributions she didn't even raise enough in March to pay her daily operating expenses!

Penn has 'deferred' his billings, Wolfson has 'deferred' his billings, Maggie Williams is working for no pay!

[City Lights]

23. I was being sarcastic.

;-)

This is very serious and I'm irked that Kiki brushed off the whole thing by saying that bills were taken care of. This should still be a huge story in the media.

[Debi]

25. Yeah....I get a little worked up about this

Her campaign just burned through this state and left lots of garbage and not much good will behind (both physically and emotionally) now we have to clean up after her and try and put our party back together (I'm sure it's the same in every state).

[BumRushDaShow]

24. Ready on Day One to bilk the workers. n/t

[Debi]

26. Ready on day one to leave the problems for someone else to deal with

"It WILL be ME"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/26/eveningnews/main3540666.shtml

[DerekJ]

27. kick

[DerekJ]

28. kick

[quantass]

31. k

[EmilyAnne]

35. How can she fix this? Can she just pay these bills out of pocket, or does she have to go through

her campaign (like loaning herself money)? I know that she and Bill have the money to pay these people. I don't know anything about the rules in regards to this.

[Debi]

37. I'm sure she could use her own $$ to pay these - using campaign funds is trickier

She cannot use any funds earmarked for the general election on primary expenses incurred.

So, even if she becomes the nominee in August, any previous debts she has will have to be paid with primary dollars (of which she has very few). And if she is not the nominee - well, I don't know where the money will come from.

That's my understanding of the rules - but it would not hurt my feelings if somebody comes along and corrects me. :hi: