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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:42 PM
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I'm losing my good old DU sense of humor. Things are bad.
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 07:43 PM by Mike03
This is getting serious now.

So, the Gays won't vote for Obama, no matter what. So who will they vote for? McCain?

The African Americans won't vote for Clinton, no matter what. So who will they vote for? McCain?

The Democratic "Patriots" who are offended by "Black Liberation/Separatist Theology" won't vote for Obama, so who will they vote for? McCain?

The sexists who think of Clinton as nothing more than "Bill's lover" won't vote for Hillary. So who will they vote for? McCain?

This is not funny any more.

We can't possibly be this stupid.

What drew me to DU in the first place was the vision and intelligence here.

It's really getting embarrassing to read some of the posts here--including some of mine, for which I have apologized.

We have got to keep our eyes on the prize--and reality is part of the prize.



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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:44 PM
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1. Saving this country is the prize
I couldnt agree with you more, and I have spent less time here at DU in the last couple of months, just because the level of vitriol has been higher than is appealing. Thanks for posting.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:45 PM
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2. One small disagreement. Not only can GDP possibly be that stupid, it already is.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:46 PM
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3. McCain: The Pissed-Off People's Choice
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:53 PM
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13. That's like drinking poison...
And expecting your enemies to die.

Just stupid. I sincerely hope Democrats are smarter than that.

Personally, I think it's a wicked bad meme started by some dumbass GOP pus bag.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:46 PM
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4. Oh, I'll vote for Obama if he is the nominee.
I've always said so. And if Obama ever did anything to offend me as a gay person, too goddamn bad according to many of his supporters. So I will vote for him and feel like I am just along for the ride again, but so be it.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:50 PM
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11. Good for you, Bluebear...
I'll hold my nose and vote for him too... if he gets the nomination.

I think I'd feel very ripped off if I were in one of the states who have not voted yet. I hope they all get their chance!

:hi:

IF Obama makes it, he's going to have to answer to a lot of us, gay or straight, on the gay issues. There are a lot of us all who don't like what we've seen so far.

Obama is better than McCain. Clinton is better than McCain. Edwards would have been far better than all of them, but so be it. I'll vote for the Democrat.

Sigh.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:04 PM
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18. I still mourn Edwards :(
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:07 PM
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19. Me too...
And I saw someone trying to beat up on him here today... not too sure what that was all about. Tired of beating on the usual suspects I guess.

:shrug:

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:03 PM
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16. Yeah but according to others, if he has homophobic tendencies
or problems then they need to be addressed. If we keep looking at only the trolls and disrupter's then we will never get passed this. I do the same thing, I see threads calling me a fool or telling me to get a clue and instead of ignoring them I let them get to me and then I end up looking like the very thing I despise. I promise that most Obama supporters don't think it's "too goddamn bad", just the really vocal ones. We would never for a minute, stand for any Democratic candidate to reverse the gains made for the GLBT community. We have your back...

Luckily you and I have history, so to speak, so with us it will never degenerate into "you suck dude", we can sit across the table from one another till August and then we get behind the nominee, whoever it is. I wish it was that way with all of DU...



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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:04 PM
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17. Word.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:46 PM
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5. Vote for McCain? No, they'll all just stay home...which is basically the same thing.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:46 PM
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6. courage, my friend
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:46 PM
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7. Tell me about it...
...Click please.

Just remember to stay true to yourself and you'll be fine.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:47 PM
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8. Whom are you addressing?
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 07:51 PM by Juniperx
I'm seeing more and more people say they will support whomever the Dem nom is.

:shrug:

I'm not sure what you are talking about. I think the Obama camp has smarted up some in this regard:)
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:48 PM
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9. Embarrassing is the word of the day friend...
And all of us do it. Can't be helped in this environment. For what it's worth my vote is going to the Dem nominee. I'm not one to let my pride get in the way of saving us from 4 more years of neo-con rule.

When I first started coming in GDP (right after the 3am ad) I posted mostly unity threads, trying to get people on the same page. After a few days of being called every name in the book I gave up and became the sarcastic, annoying, bastard I am now. And that's not likely to change. Was hoping it would but I guess I'll have to keep it up till August... With only 3 threads a day it sucks to post something unifying and watch it drop without a reply or a rec...
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:48 PM
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10. The "hope and change" express has us royally screwed
It didn't have to be this way. I'm not sure if there is any good way out.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:51 PM
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12. Even as out-spoken as I am, I've pretty much stayed out of the boxing match...
...between the Obama or Clinton camps.
Part of it is trying to keep my sanity and part is my desire to learn more about each candidate.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:56 PM
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14. People talk a lot, but, with a few exceptions, they are not going to sit this one out or vote Repub.
The difference might be in intensity and activism. For example, I will vote for Hillary if by some miracle she claws her way to the nomination, but that's about it. With Obama, I'll donate, volunteer, etc.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:57 PM
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15. You hit it dead on
This is exactly what the Repukes wanted. They have pushed the division. We as a Party have fallen for it hook line and sinker.

THE ONLY way they can win in 2008 and to divide us. They know that. They just keep handing the ammo out, our side keeps taking it and everytime they say shoot....we fire...

...in a circle.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:44 PM
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23. I don't see it as the repbs causing the divisiveness. I put it
all on BO's door step. When he started the race crap after he lost NH. He should have never turned this into a racial matter. He evidently didn't think he could win without the black vote so he lied about it. And it has destroy the party and I think this election. I know I will never vote for him. Then after he pulled that, we hear Michelle make her remark about America and learn that her theist also was about race. Then we watch the Wright video. We hear lots of lies from him and he twists and turns trying to changes peoples minds about what he really said and did. I get so fed up and disgusted just thinking that someone like him could get in office. How did it happen? Don't people realize what's going on?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:16 PM
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20. Courage! It Will Be Spring Eventually
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 08:18 PM by Demeter
Why, I saw crocuses this morning, freezing their little purple heads off.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:18 PM
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21. It's a family feud.
Once the nominee is clear we'll come back together. Those that won't were never really Democrats to begin with.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:41 PM
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22. My friend - OH SHIT, didn't mean to invoke a john w. mcbush-ism!!!
But seriously - I think it's because we're all going just about crazy.

I think it's just the most intense and immediate symptom of the maddening frustration, fear, anger, outrage and all the other slings and arrows we've suffered over the past seven-and-a-half years.

I think we're just all pushed by now to the point of near-insanity. I mean, how much have we all struggled, fought, lobbied, written, blogged, faxed, emailed, petitioned, marched, rallied, phoned, begged, pleaded, coaxed on various issues - only to be rebuffed - by our own? How many insults have we had to swallow as we opposed the war back "before it was cool"? HOW MUCH of a frickin' nightmare has it been to live in America for the last seven-and-some years - almost literally feeling like strangers in a strange land? I have awakened every morning since December 13th 2000 feeling like a frickin' hostage. I think we've all felt something along those lines - and for SO damned long - that it's started to make us crazy. And we wind up turning on each other (because no one else seems to be listening OR giving a shit).
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:48 PM
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24. I think people are just stamping their feet
and turning red in the face like little kids trying to get their way, but when it all shakes out, none of us here will vote for McCain, and probably not very many Dems out in the real world either. There's just too much at stake.
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