Beginning tomorrow, I will boycott Air America Radio

[lwcon]

I bought an XM radio the week that Al Franken’s late, lamented show premiered on “America Left,” which was XM’s initial venue for most of Air America’s programming.

Whenever I was in the car, I was glued to that station. Now, it’s hard for me to remember why I rooted for them to survive Chapter 11.

At this point, it is all Hillary Hate, all the time.

I’m a fucking Democrat, goddamn it, and I have been my whole life.

Like just about half of the Democrats voting in the primaries, my preferred candidate is Hillary Clinton.

And when I turn on the Randi fucking Rhodes show, and she’s playing “Witchy Woman” and cackling, yes cackling, about how “Witchy” is one letter off from what she really means, I am fucking done with your piece of shit network.

Well, now when Obama says, “I also think my party can be smug,” at least for some elements of it I can heartily agree with him.

Just like the kewl kidz at MoveOn fucking dot org, almost all of the jocks on Air America have decided to cast a huge part of their constituency onto an ice floe, rather than respect the fact that two popular Dems are in this campaign.

I don’t have my etiquette book handy, but I believe the proper response to “fuck you,” is “fuck you” right back.

Tomorrow, when I get in the car, I will not only remove Air America from my presets, I will delete it from the stations that are available to browse through and listen to. As Barbara Bush once said to Mr. Franken, “I’m through with you!”

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[crispini]

1. Air America: Dead To Me.

:thumbsup: :evilgrin:

[New Earth]

7. lolololol

[City Lights]

74. ROFL!

Literally!

[Elidor]

118. Burn!

:rofl:

[Zachstar]

154. So now it is Air America I guess this is #4305875049589072509 on their list

LoL

What sillyness! Then again more evidence in my view on how Clinton is tearing apart the party.

[Catherina]

195. Rofl! Fox alive and well however n/t

:rofl:

[BuyingThyme]

2. Progressives have a hard time liking Hillary Clinton.

It's a country-first thing.

[knixphan]

5. lol

[PatGund]

11. No....

It's also a Democrat-first thing too.

As in "would rather support a real Democrat than Ms. DLC GOP-Lite"

[Ravy]

17. With nine votes in the Senate separating them, it is hard to tell them

apart from their voting record.

I think the decision is more on style. Clinton is power, Obama is finesse.

[BuyingThyme]

24. I like to think there's a huge separation between war and peace.

[nonconformist]

53. When did Obama vote for peace?

I'm intrigued.

[BuyingThyme]

66. Some time after I did. It's all about the democracy.

[Ravy]

57. One speech on one war. What is Obama's stand on Pakistan?

Afghanistan?

I don't think he is the dove you guys want. That is fine with me. Military intervention is sometimes necessary.

Concerning the IWR, I don't particularly great that what he proposed continuing the sanctions that were killing, disproportionately, the young Iraqis, either.

[BuyingThyme]

69. Not the dove I want, but an easy choice.

[joeprogressive]

178. We don't want a dove. We want someone that makes good decisions.

HRC proved she is not that person.

[Ravy]

184. Well.... how did Obama make a good decision about the IWR?

Did he operate on his *gut* feeling?

He sits there and criticizes her lack of reading the Intelligence Report, which was classified, and relying on a briefing for her decision.

Where was even a briefing for him to guess that Saddam had gotten rid of all of the WMD? He had far less information that she did, yet he made a decision, ostensibly without evidence one way or another. Obama said this himself in 2004. Is that good judgment, or a good guess?

Hillary said on the Senate floor that this was to pressure Saddam into complying so that war could be averted. She said in an interview as troops were moving into the region that the case had not been met for military action, and that the weapons inspectors should be allowed to do their job.

[lwcon]

156. Ravy, what are you doing in a joint like this?

Having opinions without assuming those who think differently must be turncoats...

What would happen if that caught on!?

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[PoliticalAmazon]

22. Anyone who loathes Bush/Rove should loathe Hillary--same tactics, same hate. n/t

[Zhade]

92. NICE.

NT!

[Ronnie]

99. Perfect example of smug.

[Zhade]

161. Perfect example of truth.

: )

[Fox Mulder]

119. Agreed.

[QC]

144. Genuine progressives aren't much impressed with either one of them.

It's hilarious seeing people act like a slick corporate centrist is Emma Goldman, Mother Jones, and Eugene Debs all rolled into one.

[BuyingThyme]

148. The people here were all about Dennis.

But things may have changed since then.

[eridani]

159. OK, so we got out-organized by a triangulating centrist

I don't like it either, but them's the facts. Dennis is a wardheeler, not an organizer. Works for one congressional district, but it's very hard to go national with that old big city style of informal personal networks.

Progressives ought to be going where the new people are, and getting them stoked about pushing for progressive issues from the bottom.

[crankychatter]

166. new to DU a couple of weeks now and eridani

that was the sharpest post I've read

progressives become such moral purists they're incapable of forming coalitions on shared issues with folks that differ otherwise, and remain politically marginalized

Obama's scullduggery is exactly what they need

Looks to me like they(we) might get what they want despite their best efforts

What's called "centrism" now is just a subset, a function of corporate influence

real centrism is old fashioned, pragmatic politics

CD has had several essays lately (Tom Hayden leading the pack) calling for progressives to support Obama

It could happen

[eridani]

182. I'd call it organizing prowess rather than skullduggery

I think we can pull a lot of the newbies leftward, especially on health care, if we engage. I'm left enough that Clinton and Obama look very similar to me with my policy wonk hat on. I could only make a decision by putting my party organizer hat on instead.

[Enrique]

175. many progressives do support Hillary

[redqueen]

202. Spot on. (nt)

[anonymous171]

3. Quoting Barbara Bush, eh? Maybe, just maybe, it is YOU who is wrong, not them.

[Ronnie]

108. More smug.

[Ned_Devine]

4. I think that progressive radio hosts don't feel that Hillary is running like a democrat

I think that they feel she has employed many republican tactics in her quest.

[lwcon]

123. You mean like being framed as a racist by an unscrupulous politician?

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304


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[anonymous171]

146. You do know Sean Wilentz is a friend of the Clinton's?

His paper reads like it was copied from DU.

[redqueen]

203. Deleted

[TheWraith]

163. Once again, the only people who agree with your view of reality are Clinton loyalists.

The Clinton campaign looks more and more like the Republicans every day, right down to creating their own reality by way of selected media, and accusing any media not biased in favor of them of being biased against them.

[marmar]

6. But Air America is not a "Democratic" network....it's a progressive one.

All Democrats are not progressives.

[olkaz]

188. ding ding ding ding ding

This is the right answer!

AA doesn't like Hillary because she is a DLC goon. Period.

[onehandle]

8. Most liberal radio is "Hillary Hate" at the moment, unlike the real world...

...where she is just behind Obama.


What's really crazy is that they are both centrists. No liberal paradise is forthcoming.

[GarbagemanLB]

12. Maybe on domestic issues...but they are NOT the same on foreign policy. She is a hawk.

[onehandle]

18. We'll never know how he would have voted at the time.

But if there was a 9/11 in 2009, he'd hawk up real quick.

If you have a problem with her vote then you have no business being a Democrat.

I didn't like her vote, but I do have a basic understanding of politics.

[GarbagemanLB]

34. Did you just tell me that if I didn't support her IWR I am not a Democrat? Holy shit.

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

The Hillbots keep slipping further and further away from reality...

[onehandle]

50. I'm not a Hillary supporter, but there were a fuckload of Democrats that supported War.

How can someone critical of the IWR vote even be a Democrat. That's my point.

READ MY SIGNATURE.

[GarbagemanLB]

72. I can forgive the vote if they ADMIT IT WAS A MISTAKE AND APOLOGIZE. Call me crazy, but a single vot

e that had the ability to initiate a process that has killed tens of thousands of people and wasted billions of dollars is hard to swallow for me and many other progressives.

[DerekJ]

75. Are you for real??

In all a cases, that's exactly our point. It is when those "fuckload of Democrats" were wrong, Obama was right. It is when they were all scared shitless to be called unpatriotic, and cowards, he stood up to defend his position.

[JTFrog]

174. Here are your NON FUCKING DEMOCRATS

And I have a HUGE softspot for the next to last name on that list. Do NOT ever dare to spew that shit here again.

Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Chafee (R-RI)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Graham (D-FL)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Wyden (D-OR)

[DaDooRonRon]

187. And how many of this "brave crew" continue to fund the illegal occupation?

One needs to walk the walk rather than shout "look what I did!" to a room full of coffins.

[JTFrog]

193. One of those men is now in a coffin himself.

He paid the ultimate price for his shout out.

And many of those on the list have introduced legislation to both end the funding and to withdraw our troops.

Anyone who says that a vote against the IWR was an undemocratic vote needs to hurry their ass right back to freeperville.

[SOS]

40. He might well hawk up

But at least he wouldn't attack the wrong country.

[onehandle]

46. True. He's not a crooked moron like Bush. But it would be bombs away on someone. nt

[Zhade]

95. Let's be fair - there's no way to KNOW that, one way or the other.

NT!

[onehandle]

True, too. Luxembourg could attack us and Obama could decide to bomb Antarctica.

Probably not, but anything is possible.

[proud2BlibKansan]

58. Obama spoke out against the war; Hillary voted for it

And your comment about disagreeing with her vote is WAY over the top.

[onehandle]

60. I disagreed with her vote, but notice that people didn't leave the party in droves.

Why is that?

How can someone critical of the IWR vote even be a Democrat.

[proud2BlibKansan]

71. So you have to be pro-war to be a Democrat?

Tell that to Robert Byrd and the 23 other senators (most of them DEMOCRATS! LOL) who voted against the IWR.

[onehandle]

90. No, but she wasn't alone and the party didn't shun her.

I think there are few Democrats at "Democratic" Underground.

[proud2BlibKansan]

100. She is being "shunned" for running a nasty campaign

Good grief, she praised McCain while criticizing Obama - a DEMOCRAT.

There are plenty of Democrats here. PROGRESSIVE Democrats. Hillary is not progressive. What is amazing to me is that any DU regulars support Hillary.

[onehandle]

111. Of course she is. But this section of the thread spiraled out about her IWR vote.

None of this part of the thread is about the present. You brought that up.

I'm no fan of how she's running her campaign.

And read my signature...

[proud2BlibKansan]

127. You can put anything you want in that signature

Doesn't make it believable :)

[ekwhite]

152. And who died and left you judge of who is a Democrat?

Explain that to me please.

[DerekJ]

96. Can she apologize for it at least. Can she stop telling the Iraqi she gave them the give of freedom?

[onehandle]

113. I dunno. Can she?

Can the party apologize for keeping any "hawks" in their ranks?

I don't get how DUers could be Democrats.

[DerekJ]

129. Huh?!!!

No seriously, I don't get it. What I get is that you are saying you support the War, and you can't possibly be a democrat if you are against it.

But, I am sure I got that wrong. Care to elaborate?

[eridani]

160. About time everybody realized that 700+ military bases around the world has jackshit to do with--

--"defense." It's about imperial domination of the rest of the world by force, which we can no longer afford to do and still be a functioning society.

[ekwhite]

151. Because some of us have been Democrats since before you were born?

I supported John Edwards because he apologized for the IWR. Hillary Clinton has NEVER apologized. This is a war that has killed over 4,000 American soldiers, wounded 10's of thousands of American soldiers, and killed, wounded and maimed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. This is a war that has exhausted our funds, driven the dollar into the toilet, and left our forces overextended. And you have the unmitigated GALL to tell me I should not be a Democrat? :grr:

Obama is certainly not a pacifist candidate, but he is against this unjust and illegal war, and wants us to get out in a way that will not leave Iraq in a shambles. He is the best choice of the candidates we have left in the race.

[laugle]

63. I agree with you!

And if 911 had happened in Illinois, he'd "hawk-up" really quick too..........LOL............

[joshcryer]

170. Bullshit. Her Iraq policy is as strong as Edwards'.

Obama waffles on the issue.

[truedelphi]

43. It's sad but what you are saying is true

I am for O at this point, but I am sure that I am kidding myself.

Msot of the things that I want asa progressive, like Universal single payer health care, like getting the f*** out of Iraq etc are not gonna happen no matter who wins.

[onehandle]

56. But whoever wins will at least move us in that direction.

While rewarding corporations with whatever they want at the same time.

That's how socially liberal centrists work. That's how Bill Clinton did it, and how President Hillary or President Barack would do it.

[Florida22ndDistrict]

176. re: But whoever wins will at least move us in that direction.

Actually corporations are more likely to benefit from a Democratic president at this time when it comes to Iraq. The Democrats have constantly stated that they will redeploy our troops so that they can keep voters happy, but in reality they don't want to leave a security vacuum so they will have to hire mercenaries from corporations like Black Water to fill the security gap and mask the cost of war. We're in a bad place in the worst way, and this is not going to get better in the next 4 years. In the end unaccountable mercenaries will most likely do us more harm, but it will give the voters the perception that troops are beginning to return home.

[SwampG8r]

136. sigh

let me get it straight
liberal radio says shes a bad candidate
RW radio says shes a bad candidate
so for once both sides agree?
most americans find hillary repugnant seems to be what i get from this
it seems ,to me at least, that the only ones who believe shes got anything at all to offer are going to be the poor saps who will stay and give their time,unpaid also mind you,to her campaign
i am tired myself,of trying to put up with the irrational thinking involved here
she has a terrible record in the senate
and no "experience"to speak of
when she says 35 years of experience what is it she is saying?
every minute of her life has prepared her for who she is now?
big whoopee ! we can all say that but it doesn't mean we can be president
can you in fact be sexually injected with experience? i think not
or we would have dozens of women running
I'm sorry if this is "harsh" or "inappropriate" but i have heard so much bull about her and her "chances" that I'm sick of it and her
shes cash strapped and math delusional and remaining in profits no one but herself
if nothing else this illustrates why the DLC must be destroyed as a power group within the party

[onehandle]

138. I didn't vote for her. nt

[GarbagemanLB]

9. Don't worry, I'm sure Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Michael Medved will appeal more to your taste

[MadBadger]

10. You a Lou Dobbs fan now too?

[Joe the Revelator]

13. The Hillbots have taken the Bill O'Riley apporach to life

BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT

ANYTHING I DON"T LIKE!!!!!!

Oh yeah~@!

[springhill]

164. Moderaters..........

Really, why do you allow this Hillbot crap? Either side using these kinds of slurs against the dem candidates don't belong on this board. It is just ridiculous.

[onehandle]

169. .

.

[Joe the Revelator]

183. Boycott me.

[SunsetDreams]

14. hmmm

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't hear Randi do that. When was this?

As for all the others I guess the writing must be on the wall, they can't all be wrong.

Hillary has a 37% positive rating nation wide, which translates into a 63% negative rating.

[DarienComp]

15. You go.

[Nitrogenica]

16. Just change it too Rush then, bye. Too many broad brushes in your post for me.

[rodeodance]

70. That is something a RWinger would say.

[Pastiche423]

93. That is something a DLCer would say

[Zhade]

98. Same thing.

: )

[Pastiche423]

107. Yep, you are right!

[proud2BlibKansan]

104. I am lovin my ignore list these days

:rofl:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

19. Ah, I see our little Taylor Marsh wannabe has returned. nt

[lwcon]

126. No offense to Taylor

But I don't happen to frequent her site.

Still, do keep repeating that if it makes you happy. Since you're an Obama fan, this campaign is all about you! And ponies, of course. And better still, the ponies are for you, too!

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[PoliticalAmazon]

20. The hateful, shrewish way HRC has dissed Obama supporters, you expect something different? n/t

[DearAbby]

21. I wanna HOT-FUCKING-DOG

not a Fucking hot dog...not a hot dog Fucking...but a HOT-FUCKING-Dog.

:rant:

sorry your Randi Fucking Rhodes caused me to rant, you may continue with your regularly scheduled bitch session :eyes:


Disclaimer...to give credit where it is due. This is a play on the Rosie O'Donnell Bit about Melanie Griffith. I had thought it would be obvious. :D

[DarienComp]

32. ha, isn't that an old Rosie O'Donnell bit?

where she imitates melanie griffith?

[DearAbby]

52. Yeah It is...:D

[4nic8em]

38. I seem to remember Abby,

that your quoting Melanie Griffin with the HOT-FUCKING-DOG line, eh?

[DearAbby]

62. Oh my FUCKING GAWD!!

I have been possessed by Rosie O'Donnell doing Melanie Griffith! :wow:


Boobalooo...hey Lucy, you have some 'slaining to do!

Now I am possessed by Desi Arnez!!!111!

[ronnykmarshall]

189. It's Arnaz.

[goldcanyonaz]

23. Good for you! BRAVO!

[Upton]

25. Why should you like Air America?

Most Hillary Clinton supporters are not true progressives.

[Forkboy]

26. Randi is not a pleasant woman.

Even when she's right I found her annoying as hell. She's even rude to callers who agree with her.

Of course, I don't really like any talk radio, right or left.

[americanstranger]

31. Nah, Randi's nice.

She just gets on a roll on the air, and she just goes.

Off-air, she's a sweetie.

- as

[Forkboy]

42. Well, that may be so, but 99.99% of her listeners don't know her off air.

She just gets on a roll on the air, and she just goes.

That's the trouble with talk radio.

[americanstranger]

44. That's true.

You want a big slice of irony?

One place that i got to hang with Randi was at the 2003 State Of the Union address, where we attended a dinner and we both met Hillary Clinton!

And Hillary was nice, too. Guess that says something, although i'm not really sure what. :D

- as

[Forkboy]

54. I suspect Hillary is a very nice woman in person.

I'd love to meet her. If nothing else she's already had a fascinating life.

[americanstranger]

61. It was only for a minute that we got to talk to her.

But she was very engaging, quite friendly.

If that Hillary was the one campaigning, she might have locked up the nomination by now. I believe she got a few million bucks' worth of bad advice.

- as

[onehandle]

125. So very true.

You won't get many in these parts agreeing with that.

The Clintons = The BFEE at Democratic Underground.

Pure insanity around here.

How ya doin'?

[americanstranger]

137. Oh, good.

You?

I've been back at BCF lately. Same bloodbath, only with fewer players. :)

- as

[onehandle]

140. I peek in. Talk now and then.

The Internets are nuts. Now more than ever.

[americanstranger]

142. Got that right.

The world's gone nuts. Nuts, I tell ya.

- as

[kmsarvis]

128. ILL AGREE WITH THAT!!!!!

IM AN OBAMA SUPPORTER WHO STILL LIKES HILLARY BUT I ABSOLUTELY LOATHE HOWARD WOLFSON NOW.
I THINK HE'S FUCKED HER POLITICAL FUTURE UP BIG TIME.

[laugle]

77. That's because she has a hangover most days.....LOL

That voice is like chalk on a blackboard...........

[gateley]

27. Randi had been

supportive of all the candidates for quite awhile. I think that she, like many others, began moving away from Clinton when her campaign's questionable (or at least icky) campaign tactics became known, and continue. I know it has colored peoples' opinions of HRC -- because it has colored mine.

[malik flavors]

28. I agree Randi goes after Hillary too much, but Thom, Rachel, and lionel are great.

And calling people jocks is a little immature of you.

[DerekJ]

29. Fox news is now the preferred HRC supporters’ channel, I advise you to watch them.

They are "Fair and Balanced".
You wiil find Scaife to be neutral and objective also.

[tishaLA]

30. Try Fox Radio. Ed Rendell seems to think it's been balanced

[Texasgal]

33. If I boycotted everyone

And everything I didn't agree with, I'd be one lonely person.

Boycott them if you wish... just know that somewhere there will be someone else who does not agree with you.

[Hepburn]

35. You're a progressive and you support Hillary?

:rofl:

[Spider Jerusalem]

36. Hillary, at this point...is NOT GOING TO WIN.

Get that through your head. Process it. Let it sink in. She will not, and cannot, win the nomination. She will enter the convention, if things go that far, with a deficit of between one hundred and two hundred pledged delegates and most likely a significant popular vote deficit. She has no way of making up the gap. It is simply not going to happen. It doesn't really matter if it COULD happen. Lots of things could happen, but that does not mean that they will happen. If you refuse to accept the reality of the situation, which is becoming increasingly clear to most people, that's really your problem; but if you sincerely think that the broadcasters on Air America are going to act as though Hillary has a chance, when she doesn't, just to assuage the tender sensibilities of the sore losers who think she's still in the race, you're not really thinking.

[proud2BlibKansan]

79. AMEN!!

Well said!! :applause:

[Zhade]

101. That fact aside, why should ANYONE give a proven liar like her a pass?

Does the OP expect them not to point out her brazen, repeated lies?

[BlueIdaho]

37. Beginning tomorrow I will boycott Correntwire.com nt.

[sabbat hunter]

39. but they all say

Lionel, thom hartmann, randi, etc all say no matter who comes out of the primaries, vote D as they are both infinitesimally better than McCain.

[KamaAina]

114. Infinitely better, not infinitesimally!

Infinitely: by an unimaginably huge amount.

Infinitesimally: by a teeny tiny microscopic amount.

Sidebar: My precocious grade-school self used to try to pronounce "infinitesimal" as "in-fin-IT-sim-al" rather than "in-fin-i-TESS-i-mal". Same with "MIZZ-uld" for "misled".

edit: spelling

[sabbat hunter]

172. oops

I knew that. Yesterday was a LOOOOONG day.

[seriousstan]

41. Randi has taught me that it is AOK to call women you don't like bitch's.

Mighty progressive there. I can't wait for her to realize the "c" word is the new "bitch".

[baldguy]

45. When you feel the airing of the truth is an attack on you, then you've got a problem.

[kevinmc]

47. Alert The Drudge Report, maybe he will use his Siren ..... n/t

[rodeodance]

73. Yeah we saw how BO believed that Slime drudge with the muslum garb issue.

[Forkboy]

87. Says the person who rec's the Newsmax stuff.

[Zhade]

102. PWNED

Nicely flipped.

[Forkboy]

117. Rodeo likes shaming everyone without ever looking in a mirror.

Some people make it easy. ;)

[tammywammy]

155. LOL

[rwheeler31]

48. by thanks for playing

[laugle]

49. Many agree with you!

I just sent them an e-mail yesterday with the same basic sentiments. I even sent one to the program director. It was funny.....I got an auto reply from the PD saying he was on vacation.........I wish they would put Stephanie and Randy on a permanent vacation..........

[ekwhite]

153. Ummm

You do realize Stephanie Miller and Randi Rhodes work for different networks, don't you?

Just sayin'

[proud2BlibKansan]

51. Air America is progressive; Hillary is not

It's really not that hard to understand.

[Lucky 13]

55. Maybe. JUST MAYBE...

You guys have declared so many people "dead to you", or Judas, or slandered good people you used to respect and believed to be honest. But all that was before they DARED say a word against Hillary. Do you now only respect people that say exactly what your candidate would want them to say?

When will you realize you are demonizing dissenters of your candidate is just like the right demonizing dissenters of the war? IT'S THE SAME THING.

When will you realize ALL THESE PEOPLE aren't suddenly, shockingly, awful people?! When will you realize it's not that everyone else in the world is crazy? When will you start believing anyone but this circle of Clinton supporters?

Could you please consider even the remotest of possibilities that maybe, JUST MAYBE, your candidate isn't as great as you think she is? MAYBE all these people saying these things about her are RIGHT? Maybe this whole time, you have been suckered?

I know... the Hillary supporters here will never consider the possibility. But I thought I'd try. If I didn't love ya, I wouldn't try. Flame away.

[proud2BlibKansan]

68. Their drama is getting rather old, isn't it?

[Lucky 13]

94. It's exhausting and sad.

It reminds me of that awful situation where you have to be the one to tell your friend you saw her boyfriend out cheating on her. She'll deny it, defend him, lash out at you - even in the face of all evidence to the contrary. The only thing to do at that point is say, "Listen. We're still friends. I care about you. Call when you want to talk." And walk out. Because until she works out some shit on her own, there ain't no talking to her.

(Think of GDP as the bar you run into her at a week later getting hammered, talking shit, and starting fights. Sometimes the bouncer - Skinner - even has to escort them out, call her a cab, send her home.)

This feels the same somehow. Until they get done grieving their loss... no argument, no matter who says it, no matter how much sense it makes and how much supporting evidence you give to back it up... will be accepted. She can do no wrong and all who speak against her must be shamed and cast out.

It's fucking sad.

[proud2BlibKansan]

115. That's a great analogy

LOL!

[stevedeshazer]

59. So sorry you can't handle the truth

Good luck listening to:

Rush Limbaugh

Sean Hannity

Glenn Beck

Laura Ingraham

Huge Hewitt

Dennis Prager

Michael Medved

Bill Bennett

Come back and let us all know how it works for you and how much they love Hillary.

Promise?

[Catherine Vincent]

112. Apparently that list you typed is no different than the Democrats bashing Hillary or the Clinton's.

It's all the same. So why should he listen to those goons?

[mountainvue]

64. I tuned in to Randi yesterday

and was shocked by the Hillary hate. I hadn't listened to her in a while. I was truly disappointed. I sent her an email asking if she was going to rag on Senator for the next hour the way she had on Senator Clinton for the first hour of her show. The email bounced back to me. I guess she's not interested in listener feedback.

[laugle]

89. You should have sent it to the program director! nt

[stevedeshazer]

130. What did Randi say that was not true?

Got facts?

[FlaGranny]

194. If you listened to her often

you would know that she never said anything bad about Clinton until Clinton had the same effect on her that she had on me and many others. Every single thing she has said about Clinton (and about Obama also) is completely verifiable. I've never heard Randi state ANYTHING as fact that couldn't be verified. She doesn't make things up. She has always kept her opinion of the candidates to herself until the last 2 months - now she is opinioning big time and I realized that she has seen what I've seen and agrees with me. My husband used to ask me who Randi Rhodes was "for." I used to say that I really didn't know, because she won't say.

If Randi lies about a candidate she can be sued. She has been sued. She has won each time. She is too smart and too knowledgeable about libel laws, etc., to make that stupid mistake. She spent years defending the Clintons. I know, because I've been listening to her for years. I think she feels a bit betrayed by the Clintons. I know I do.

It is easy to boycott someone you don't agree with and I'm often guilty of the same thing. For instance, I won't listen to or watch Bush, even though I should so that I keep well informed. In fact, I turn just about everyone off who starts "parroting" a political talking point.

I'll still vote for Clinton if she is the nominee, because she is far more liberal than any Republican will ever be.

[SeattleGirl]

65. Jesus Christ on a crutch! I get sick of these, "I'm holier than thou" posts!

You don't like AAR? Fine. Don't listen to it. Why do you feel the need to spew your "I'm better than you" shit all over the place?

:eyes:

[rodeodance]

67. Rec

[stevedeshazer]

76. Bill O'Reilly boycotted France

That was really effective.

[SeattleGirl]

78. .......

:rofl:

[proud2BlibKansan]

91. LOL!!!

:rofl:

[NashVegas]

80. The Truth About Air America, and Most Majorly-Financed Liberal Outlets

They aren't there to give the people a voice, they're their to corral the various leftie tribes and make of them something useful for the well-connected with agendas. Give them a productive channel that doesn't threaten the status quo *too much.*

[RememberWellstone]

81. Did it months ago.

they officially suck when you disenfranchise your loyal listeners, who is left to hear them?

[GarbagemanLB]

84. The true liberals and progressives.

[proud2BlibKansan]

122. Progressives

AAR really doesn't appeal to the DLC supporting crew.

[charlie]

82. MoveOn's the "kewl kidz" now?

The bunch who organized to save Bill's bacon? I didn't know their charter included looking out for the Clintons forever and ever, amen.

[lwcon]

141. I thought their charter included looking out for Democrats...

... about half of whom prefer Hillary.

Deciding to have a bake-off while the race was still in play was a brilliant way to disenfranchise half of their base.


___

The Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy, now at my new home: Correntewire.com

[charlie]

145. Nope, never did

Democrats have been beneficiaries of their support because Republicans never align with them on their issues. They're an issues group, not party partisans.

[Fox Mulder]

83. Well, tomorrow, I'm going to listen to AAR more.

:)

[GarbagemanLB]

85. AMEN.

[Zhade]

86. clinton's a bald-faced liar about nonexistent sniper fire, and you get mad at AA?

Crazy.

[rufus dog]

88. have you thought

That HRC has been acting like such an arrogant bitch that progressives are calling her out?

[City Lights]

97. Fox Radio might be more to your liking.

Many Clinton fans are finding a sympathetic ear in RW territory lately. Good luck! :hi:

[amelia]

103. Me and 100% of Clinton Women Agree with you

[stevedeshazer]

133. You speak for all, then?

Wow. I only speak for myself.

Amazing.

[TomBall Democrat]

105. Why should AAR support the

Republican candidate?

[gmudem]

106. That's not what a boycott is.

This is just you whining because AAR, like almost all other liberals that many DU'ers look up to in the media, are opposed to Clinton and her Rovian tactics. A boycott implies a group of people are doing it.

[my3boyz]

109. Hillary hate...hmmmmmmm I wonder why?

Perhaps because her selfish ass is throwing the democrats under the bus! She is doing the republicans dirty work for them so she can get her way. She is a habitual liar! I tried not to dislike her. At first it was just that I preferred Barack. However, now I seriously dislike her.

[zulchzulu]

110. We can't help it if you're stupid

People can see past Hillary Clinton. She lost. She is not going to be the nominee. Get over it.

If you still support her after all her lies and especially the absolutely pathetic bold-faced lie about being the Heroine of Tuzla, something is seriously wrong with you.

Listen to the friggin' Disney Channel. That's about as much fantasy as you need to still think Hillay Clinton has a chance.

[bridgit]

116. I'm hearing you, we spend more time @ bluegrass country, LaughUSA & The System

Beyond Jazz, Ethel, etc, more anything else than...who was it again? Oh! AirAmerica!! I remember those guys. I remember what they used to be, oh and yeah...

"witchy woman" too less than precious :thumbsdown: must be great to sit with your ass in a chair and still make money hocking gold & flowers while the world is coming undone :nuke:

[Sandaasu]

120. Maybe you should start tuning into the FNC then.

Sounds like they like Hillary :evilgrin:

Really, so Air America's hosts don't generally like your candidate, so what? Oh noes, people have opinions! If you don't like it, turn it off. no need to make a big deal out of it.

[NEDem]

121. yeah, they've been "the fairest"

at least thats what hillary says

[rodeodance]

124. RW'ers say that all the time. You sound just like one.

[Cha]

131. So you like the LIAR hilary clinton ...we'll most

Democrats are smarter than that! Good For Air America! Rage ON Air America! You can live without iwcon..

[Hugabear]

132. Randi Rhodes, Stephanie Miller, Keith Olbermann, Ted Kennedy, Michael Moore...

All fucking traitors.

Right?

:sarcasm:

[Ronnie]

134. “I also think my party can be smug,”

When Obama's right, he's right.

A gift for all the smug people on this thread:

[anigbrowl]

135. moveon.org held a poll of their members before deciding to endorse Obama

And the choice for Obama was made by a huge majority, so nobody was thrown onto an ice floe. And while i respect your right to critique Air America, or not to listen to (I rarely listen to any radio, and certainly wouldn't waste my time on talk radio), giving a detailed description of how you're going to boycott it, and delete it from your presets, is kinda of childish.

[JayFredMuggs]

139. Oh dear YET ANOTHER HILLARY supporter

insulted by being asked to look at logic and math!

What's WRONG with the picture?

Hillary should be a "shoe-in" despite her numbers !

AND DESPITE HILLARY's REPEATED OUTRIGHT LIES ON NATIONAL TELEVISION

Poor baby!

[Bonobo]

143. I just hope they can survive lwcon's boycott...

[JayFredMuggs]

147. WOW

I wonder, too!

They have talent, brains, but without blind Hillary supporters, who are they? What can they possibly do?

[bridgit]

150. "What can they possibly do?" Really? Well for one they could start losing market shares

:shrug:

[TriMetFan]

149. I'm with you.

Air America is off my radio. I was a Premium Member and I didn't renew my membership. I used to love to listen to Randi, and now I just think she sounds like a broken record. So this is for Air America and Randi---:puke: :nuke: :puke:

[Pisces]

157. I will be tuning in tomorrow. Maybe this should give some hard core democrats food for thought.

[datopbanana]

158. no one cares what you listen to in your car. thx for wasting space

[TheWraith]

162. So Randi Rhodes is a sexist, now?

Also, I thought it was sexist to use words like cackling? Doesn't that make you a sexist? Oh, wait, there's a different standard for Clinton supporters.

Try to get the message: detesting the Republican-lite smear fest that is the Clinton campaign is not "Hillary hate" any more than our condemnation of the Shrub is "Bush hate." There's a reason that a lot of people have been driven to disgust with the Clinton campaign. Including Air America's Rachel Maddow, who despite being very pro-Clinton at the beginning of the primary now has a great deal of disdain for her.

Clinton's constant mudslinging and running to the right has alienated most of the base of the Democratic party. Yes, including MoveOn, which despite what you seem to think, had a fair and open vote on who to endorse. Virtually the only reason that anyone is still supporting Hillary is positive associations with the Clinton name.

[stratomagi]

165. Funny I just started listening to Air America again

and Randi Rhodes and Rachel Maddow are my favorites on there.

[davidpdx]

167. We can add this to the list of things that are bad:

Randi Rhodes
Air America
Howard Dean
Donna Brazile
Bill Richardson
Keith Olbermann
Bill Bradley

Did I forget anyone?


What will Hillary supporters boycott next:

a) CBS
b) The New York Times
c) The Internet
d) All media

I'm voting for d

[cooolandrew]

168. My word if Obama was getting a hard time from liberal media I would be asking what is he doing ...

...wrong than blame very intelligent liberal broadcasters for their opinion. It's not news it's punditry. As punditry it should be taken as just their opinion which in a free society they are welcome to their opinion as you are about your candidate.

[Apollo11]

171. "Tomorrow Begins Today"

As John Edwards used to say.

[ihelpu2see]

173. I do believe Sen. Clinton has brought this on herself. First, for almost 2 weeks saying

that "Pledged Delegates should keep an open mind"? then complaining that the "Obama camp wants her to quit" well daaa you can not have it both ways why spend what little money you have left, suspend your campaign and just go to the convention Keep former President Bill Clinton and your Campaign Manager spewing subtle support for McCain and You just keep shouting that Pledged Delegate should keep an open mind.... In short meaning that the vote of the people does not count.

It is that kind of self centered, hubris that makes the talking heads take aim at her....


Go Obama!

[NDambi]

177. OMG! They're doomed. Should be off the air in no time wth your boycott! *smirk*

[undeterred]

179. Franken's been off the air for a year.

You need to grow a thicker skin.

[beachmom]

180. Randi Rhodes has always been nasty -- you just figured that out?

Look, progressives in the party have made their choice, and it's Obama. You'll just have to watch Fox News from now on ...

[ray of light]

181. Ok. so boycot the DEMOCRATIC, INDEPENDENT, PROGRESSIVE networks and go

listen to the hate on Fox and Rush limbaugh.

[SeaLyons]

185. It's called fachism....

corporate media manipulating the folks....choosing their president for them. Smart people are not swayed by any of the pundits. They make up their own minds.

[olkaz]

190. wtf is fachism?

If you are insinuating that the hosts of Air America are "fascist", then you are delusional. Un-bookmark this site, unplug your cable and internet, and go back to school.

[SeaLyons]

199. Looks like you got the gist....

I guess you just felt like making a typical arrogant nasty reply. Move along...

:hi:

[olkaz]

201. No, I just don't like you giving credence to Jonah Goldberg.

But go on. Pigeonhole me somehow.

[GarbagemanLB]

200. Obviously they were talking about the Opera.

The Fach system is a convenience for singers and opera houses. A singer who is identified as being of a certain Fach will usually be asked to sing only roles that belong to that Fach. This prevents a singer from being asked to sing roles which he or she is incapable of performing. Opera houses keep lists of available singers by Fach so that when they are casting roles for an upcoming production, they do not inadvertently contact performers who would be inappropriate for the part.

[dionysus]

186. guess you'll have to listen to the Fox radio on XM

:rofl:

[madrchsod]

191. i think rush is helping hillary win the nomination.....

well no one said you had to listen


oh crap mama is on! got to turn her on....ya like i could

[susankh4]

192. K&R

Tho I will say, Lionel seems to be getting the picture..... so I am listening to him now and again.

Randi and Ed: dead to me.

[Bluenorthwest]

196. AAR folded in my town

After a couple of weeks where they had to play filler music where unpurchased commercials were supposed to go. This is very Progressive town and they were rejected long before this silly Primary squabble, for reasons of style and invective, so I have not heard much of any of them for some time. I heard a tad of Rhandi the other day when driving closer to another signal, and she was playing 'Like a Vermin' as a satire against Cllnton. A caller who was extremely supportive of both her and her candidate of choice was ripped on for mentioning her accident a few months back, she said it did not happen, " Nothing happened to me" she said, but it did. She was on the air after the accident talking about the expense of her dental work and all. And she screamed at this caller "What happened to me? Nothing happened to me!"
She sounded insane. She was so mean to that guy. Did I miss some subtext to his call? He seemed like A#1 Fanboy to me, and she really ripped into him. My town may dig the political content, it is strong for Obama here, but the syle and the type of energy does not play here. There is more to dislike about the Right wing radio style than just the Right Wing part. A Hannity who agress with me is still a Hannnity.
So AAR, I only hear it when I leave town now, although I had hardly listened to anyone but Thom for many months before they were pulled from the air, for reasons that have nothing to do with the primaries, or Hillary or Barack. But a few years ago I was a huge Rhandi fan and so I worry and give her benefit of the doubt. Anyone know if that caller was working a subtext I missed? It just seemed lilke he was in love with her and she just spewed at him. Maybe I missed his agenda? It made me sad.

[madwivoter]

197. Obviously it's your choice to boycott whomever you please

The radio hosts on Air America have an open forum and yes, many of them are pro Obama, but that doesn't mean that they don't take pro Clinton callers and give them a chance to push their candidate. I listen to AA most of the time and hear plenty from both sides. If you don't like what you hear, get active and pick up the phone...or boycott.

FWIW, the "kewl kids at MoveOn..." held a vote for who they would endorse early on because the early impressions of the primaries were indicating that they needed to support someone sooner than later because it was obviously going to drag out. If you were a member of MoveOn.org at the time you would have received a ballot and had a chance to vote. Kind of Democratic, don't you think?

[snooper2]

198. Air America Doesn't Count

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Tommy_Carcetti]

204. I quit Randi last month after listening to her for 7 years

I loved her show, and I loved that until the past month or two, she maintained a nice, balanced stance between the two candidates.

And then, recently she has become so over the top in her support for Obama, which is fine, but really, really ugly towards Hillary, someone who she previously had highly respected and lauded and interviewed. And that is not fine. We really don't need more fuel for this ugly fire burning in the party.

I thought it would be more difficult walking away from Randi, but it hasn't.

[olkaz]

205. Randi's show is god-awful

I don't like Hillary **at all**, but Randi's show is god-awful on it's own. She's not funny, not intelligent (honestly, she comes across as belligerently stupid), and treats her listeners like crap. She is annoying and repetitive. It confuses the hell out of me that she's AA's #1 most-listened-to talent.

I stopped listening in October of last year. Thom Hartmann, Rachel Maddow, and Lionel are more than enough for my ipod during the day.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

207. When Randi was great, she was great

She was funny, she was intelligent, she cited all her sources (something most talk radio heads don't do), and you knew what she said she believed.

Unfortunately, she is no longer great. And her show really took a major nose dive in the past month or two, unfortunately. Which is why I stopped listening.

I'm done with political talk radio.

[dionysus]

206. here;

banky will make it all better;

[DangerousRhythm]

208. Perhaps...

...you should invest in a Sirius account -- even if only to listen online -- and check out Lynn Samuels on Sirius Left? Just a suggestion, if you want to hear Hillary love. :)

[IsItJustMe]

209. Hay, You always have Faux, Rush, and Hannity. Go for it.

[lefty from jersey]

210. Then they will hve NO listeners

If you were THE listener to AAR, they will officially have none after you leave. AAR has been a disaster since day one, because they don't know how to have some fun and entertain. No matter who wins the GE, and I include McCain, very little in your life will change. So little that it is not worth the anxiety and anger.

AAR needs to lighten up. This is not life and death, the Rethugs may be misguided but their screw-ups are no worse than many Dem screw ups. Bay of Pigs anyone remember? Assignation attempts on Castro, FBI following Dr. King, the Viet Nam War are all Democratic disasters too.

The huge federal deficit has been a master work that both parties have fathered. Trust me, you will end up bitter about Obama or Hillary after a short honeymoon.

It really is time to abandon both national parties. If AAR wants to become relevant for the first time in their miserable existence they should lead this parade.