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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:42 AM
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AC 360 talking about McCains cancer... crossed the line.
seriously, i think it is none of their business. They say he is healthy, all docs say he is, and they should respect it...

You want to talk about McCain, talk about how he doesn't know crap about the economy, leave his cancer health out of it.

We should all respect that.

shame on AC
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:44 AM
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1. Sometimes AC really pisses me off with his lack of journalistic integrity....
...

Unless McCain has cancer NOW, it is a non-issue and AC should be ashamed for even talking about it.


McCain is a completely fuckup and would be a horrible president... Melanoma has nothing to do with that.
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politicallore Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:44 AM
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2. I tend to agree with you.... 100% lol
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:45 AM
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3. I agree. There is plenty of POLITICAL ammo to use against McCain.
His age and past health should be off limits.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:45 AM
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4. I think it is important
What if his cancer does return and he dies? Is it not okay for the American people to wonder about that?
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:47 AM
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6. Yeah....I think this is something people should think about.
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:47 AM
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7. do we need to screen candidates if they have a family history of cancer? They say he is healthy....
they should respect that
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:24 AM
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39. And if it does return?
I know I am paying very close attention to his VP selection.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:45 AM
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5. as a voter im kinda concerned about Alzheimers. he should be tested.
just sayin..
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:48 AM
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8. again, over the line... come on guys... really...
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:16 AM
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20. Fine, but ill remember this when Cambodia gets nuked
;p
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:22 AM
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23. call me on it when it happens... so BS and you know it.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:49 AM
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9. i agree...n/t
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:56 AM
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11. I agree; should be 'tested' for both,
at least in the media. These are personal issues that I think MUST be in the public view. Sorry that when media get in they are such jerks.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5315755
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 02:56 AM
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25. I agree, why shouldn't we talk about it?
Dems have been skewered for much less so why can't we do the same?
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:54 AM
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10. I didn't see it, but his health must be an issue. Sorry. If he wants to be the oldest first term
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 12:55 AM by Johnny__Motown
president in history he needs to address his health issues, even the ones that are in his past.




Not that he should be attacked for having had cancer, but it is fair to discuss it.



Again, I didn't see AC today so if the report was in bad taste then I agree with you along those lines.
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:58 AM
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12. all docs say he is clear.., you want to talk about age... go ahead, but to talk about
this when all docs say he is okay... of limits.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:58 AM
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13. After the crap of these last 7 yrs
I wouldn't mind if there was a full medical report on all candidates, including a drug test and mental test...It is that important. Sorry, once you declare your candidacy, there is a right to privacy...but health isnt one of them.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:22 AM
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22. Right.
Paul Tsongas died several years after 'they' said he was healthy.

AND, as to dementia/alzheimers, see link at post # 11.
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:59 AM
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14. Icky. That's just not nice.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:00 AM
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15. Yup. no more free ride for McCain
They focus on these things so that they don't have to deal with the substance. They don't want to hurt him, and they know this is harmless to him.
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:03 AM
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18. maybe so... call them on it and make them focus on this issues,
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:00 AM
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16. Riiggggght
So every one now is resonable, and knows when not to cross the line when it comes to McCain, Right?!!

Ridiculous!!!
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:02 AM
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17. tsk tsk...
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:10 AM
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19. As someone who has it I can't say it really bothers me all that much.
Mind you, I'd rather people focused on the plethora of issues we can beat him over his fat head with, but they usually don't consider you cancer free until at least five years have passed, so if it's been that recent I can live with it being questioned. Especially when he makes his VP choice.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:18 AM
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26. Sorry to hear that Forkboy.. Hope you get well soon.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:48 PM
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42. Thanks Derek...we're making progress, slowly but surely.
:toast:
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Rob Gregory Browne Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:19 AM
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21. I have skin cancer
and I can tell you that it isn't something that just goes away. With a close watch and regular check-ups, surgery and sunscreen, it can be contained.

That said, if McCain manages to win the Presidency (which I doubt), I think it's important that we all know what the state of his health is, past and present. So talking about his skin cancer during the run up to the election is a legitimate topic.

And I'm pretty sure Cooper brought it up because of his own bout with the disease.
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:50 AM
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24. Have to talk abt his health. It's sorta important if he's prez.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:26 AM
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27. OK, how about if all of you were up for a job and you knew your employer wouldn't hire you
if you had ANY preexisting conditions that might make you vulnerable to illness after you were hired?

You're a cancer survivor? Sorry, can't hire you. You might get sick again and die.

You have diabetes? You're managing it OK? Well, that's fine for now, but what if someday you don't? Could be deadly. Can't take a chance on you.

Ever had heart trouble? Uh-oh. Bad risk. Who knows when you might drop dead of a heart attack?

HIV positive? No way. Don't care if you're on meds and they're working. You could still develop AIDS. Forget it.

And the list goes on and on.

Really...I don't care what kind of defenses anyone puts up ("this isn't just any job, it's the presidency")...this is an unfair way to disqualify someone for office and you know it. They just want to take it with McCain because it's the easy way out. Same thing with Fred Thompson. He's had cancer? Oh my, he's got one foot in the grave! Cross him off the list! Whereas, if it were us being treated like a walking cadaver, we'd be offended as hell.

Please. There are a million and one BETTER reasons John McCain should not be president than his status as a cancer survivor. That would be much stronger to attack him on. Let's go after those, not this bullshit.

Besides, someday the perfect Dem candidate is going to come along, and we're going to find out he or she has some medical condition that is being successfully dealt with...and are we going to disqualify THAT candidate on the basis of his or her health?

He who lives by the "clean bill of health" card dies by the "clean bill of health" card.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:10 AM
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34. McCain is not "up for a job" he is trying to get elected president
and he intends to continue our wars of aggression for 100 years if necessary. I think we ought to at the least throw the kitchen sink at him. We seem to have no problem throwing that sink at our own candidates. When it comes to theirs, suddenly we are reduced to tiptoeing on eggs.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:39 AM
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28. He has had Multiple Melanoma. He will never be cancer free.
His physical health should be considered, along with his mental health.

He is unfit to serve.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:41 AM
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29. Sorry, landonb16 but voters don't give a crap if he doesn't know shit about the economy
Bush didn't know shit about anything and yet they voted for him.

This is politics and it usually ain't pretty. If we don't make McCain's health an issue, we lose, period. Whether Hillary or Obama is nominated he is going to convince voters that they need their big strong daddy to protect them. If we are going to beat that we have to convince voters that daddy is in fact senile old grandpa.

And I don't know if you've seen the man answer questions, but there's good reason to believe that he may be senile. Watch the Al Qaeda in Iran clip. He didn't even correct himself after several minutes. Joe Lieberman had to whisper in his ear to remind him that Al Qaeda isn't in Iran.

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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:55 AM
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30. I'd agree if McCain were running for school board
But he's actually running for President, if you haven't noticed.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:58 AM
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31. Agreed.
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 05:59 AM by susankh4
This is discrimination against a person based on illness history. It's pathetic.

And, K.O.'s comments about Mr. McCain helping the economy by buying Depends.... another example of a Democrat that is going too far.

This kind of thing will backfire in the GE. There are lots of cancer survivors, and old people who vote. We should NOT be pissing them off.

Hell, I've never had cancer. And I'm only 50 years old. And I'm a Dem. And *I* am getting dang near mad enough to vote for the old guy! :mad:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:01 AM
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32. Imagine how they'd scream if OUR candidate had a similar health problem. It's all you'd hear about.
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 06:05 AM by Perry Logan
Wingers deserve no mercy in how we deal with them, so long as we stay ethical and legal. They are all degenerate traitors.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:08 AM
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33. LEAVE JOHN MCCAIN ALONE!!!!!!!!
thank you for your concern. What else should be off limits?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:32 AM
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35. It was wrong to do that.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:57 PM
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43. but its right to bash Obama for much less. Yeah ok.
:eyes:
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JoDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:53 AM
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36. Age and health will be an issue
as long as they are treated in a respectible way (minus the snark) and without a mean-spirited attitude.

My own grandmother (who is older than McCain) said she would not even think of voting for him because she thinks there is a huge chance he could die in office. Personally, I would like to know if he is on any long-term pain management therapy to deal with the injuries he suffered while a prisoner of war.

While we may not like it, the age and health issue is something the Dems must pound away on in order to win in November. It speaks to the issue of fitness for the office.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:58 AM
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37. Disagree. He's had more than one recurrence and is a person
who would be considered "at risk." If he wasn't in the Senate, he'd have a hard time getting a health insurance policy. His age is also an issue. His lapses in recent days make you wonder. When you need Leiberbush by your side in the Nancy Reagan role, it's not a good sign.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:05 AM
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38. Hard to say. Doesn't it make us look a little harder at his VP pick if his health is in question?
I agree that this is a very touchy subject.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:26 AM
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40. The President's health is important. Sorry I disagree...and I say that as a Cancer survivor
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 07:26 AM by NDambi
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:31 AM
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41. Two words: Paul Tsongas.
His health was an issue when he was running, and it damn well *should* have been. Hell, I'm a cancer survivor (so far, knock on wood) and nothing about reporting on this offends me in the least.
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