If you DO support Obama because you don't want a woman in the White House...GO CHENEY YOURSELF!

[Ken Burch]

Barack Obama doesn't want votes like that.

And decent, honorable Obama people don't think that way.

The vast majority of the country, and virtually all of the Obama campaign's TRUE supporters hate sexism as much as racism and just as much as homophobia. We're AGAINST the hate, yo.


(I don't really think that much of any Obama voters anywhere actually do support Obama for that reason, but we have to make it clear that they any who do aren't ACCEPTABLE supporters).

[DerekJ]

1. Who said that?!!!

Did I miss something?!

[Ken Burch]

5. Nobody's said it alright.

But we have to be vigilant and make sure that it's known that we don't ACCEPT people who would vote that way.

[DerekJ]

20. I understand your message, and I think It's good.

Why da F@#$ are they giving you a hard time about it?!!!

[Ken Burch]

21. Maybe they thought I'd switched to HRC.

Thanks for your support.

[SunsetDreams]

2. huh?

Granted I don't make the rounds to every post, but is someone really saying that?

[Ken Burch]

4. I don't think anyone actually has, but HRC people keep implying it

And I think we need to make it clear that that kind of thinking has no place with us.

[JVS]

6. Don't fall for their lame excuses for losing.

[SunsetDreams]

10. I agree...

no one should do that, just like no one should support Hillary due to Obama being black

However, I am really sick of the implications here.

I can speak for myself, I have been accused, by not supporting Hillary, I don't support my own gender.

BS! I would love to see a woman in the White House one day, but I want someone who represents our good nature, not one who reinforces the stereotypes we have been labled with for years.

I want someone with integrity.

I'm tired of the victim card being played.

[Ken Burch]

13. I wasn't accusing YOU of anything.

It is more about making sure the campaign shows where it stands.

I'm not attacking you. I'm not going after anyone who ISN'T doing this.

I respect you for the stance you have taken. OK?

[SunsetDreams]

Ken...

I guess I didn't make myself clear. I wasn't accusing YOU of attacking me, I was talking about Hillarys' campaign, those around her, and a minute few on this board, definitely not ALL of her supporters.

[Ken Burch]

16. I agree with you about the attacks others have made on you and on the rest of us.

Sorry if I misinterpreted your post.

We're on the same side.

[SunsetDreams]

17. it's okay no biggie,

I think we all could use a drink:toast:

[Yotun]

3. Nobody is supporting Obama because they don't want a woman in the WH

We don't want THIS woman in the White House.

[Ken Burch]

7. That's true. But we have to keep making it clear

That, contrary to the implications of some, that that's NOT what we're about.

[MadHound]

8. I think that you're off base, and possibly off meds on this one

There has been no evidence that any Obama supporters around here are voting for him because they don't want a female in the WH. You really need to retract your diatribe, because there's really no need to flame people on this one.

[Ken Burch]

9. I post this as an Obama supporter, to make sure that we all make it clear

That we'd never accept the support of anyone who did think that way.

It's an implication that's been hurled at us, and we can only address it by repudiating even the hint of sexism.

That's all I'm saying.

[MadHound]

11. Again, I think that it is misplaced

Lots of accusations are getting hurled around here, and taking it upon yourself to chew out people for these non-existent cases is really not cool. Have you seen anybody around here stating that the only reason that they're voting for Obama is because Hillary is a female? Until you do I think that you need to hold your fire.

[Ken Burch]

14. I'm not attacking the 99% of Obama supporters who've don't feel that way.

And I'm not attacking you.

Perhaps I could've worded this differently, but my intentions were to protect the campaign.

[kevinmc]

12. So... Nobody said this ..... so you need to Strawman this position ....

for what reason? And on ACCEPTABLE supporters .... good luck with making your world the way you dream it.

[DemBones DemBones]

15. Maybe you're not a sexist, but plenty of men are and it has

become abundantly clear in this race. Men in the media, male bloggers, male owners of political sites have really shown their asses. We might as well be back in the Sixties, the way these clowns are trying to keep the glass ceiling in place.

Obama showed his ass by throwing his grandma under the bus while trying to save his ass when people heard the shit he'd been listening to in church for twenty years. Women are going to remember that, believe me.


Marie Cocco wrote an excellent article called "Maybe It's a Guy Thing." I posted some of it here as an OP, this is a little different:

"Since we’re talking boy-talk here, we might as well get right into their rhetorical comfort zone: Obama now is ahead by a field goal in the third quarter. But the fourth quarter has yet to be played and who knows what the score will be at the end of regulation? So here’s their plan, hatched in the locker room: Push Clinton off the field now so that Obama can take his early victory lap."

<snip>

"Now Clinton’s methodical, dogged history of work for the Democratic Party is treated just like the methodical, dogged histories of so many women in the workplace: Having come this far she must not go too far. She must step aside to take the smaller office, with the lesser title and the lower pay to make room for the younger guy with the thinner résumé. And please, would she just go quietly like a good girl?"

<snip>

"Maybe it is true that Clinton has no realistic way to win the nomination. But Obama hasn’t won it either—and contrary to the myth his campaign has spun, Obama can’t win without superdelegates to put him over the top."

"Somehow the Obama campaign has come to believe that insulting Clinton is the same as beating her. It isn’t. And insulting her supporters—especially women and, in particular, working-class women, who have clung to her candidacy all these months—isn’t much of a general-election victory strategy. Women were 54 percent of the electorate in the presidential election of 2004. Without their support, Al Gore would not have won the popular vote in 2000 and John Kerry wouldn’t have come so close in 2004. Women voters put Democrats in control of Congress in 2006."

[Ken Burch]

18. The Obama campaign has never insulted working-class women.

That's just a HRC meme.

Obama campaign rallies are filled with working-class women.

Including working-class WHITE women, if, in your mind, those are the only ones who count.

I condemn all sexism and everyone who's brought sexism into the campaign. Where you and I differ is that I reject the idea that I'm obligated to back HRC simply to prove I'm NOT a sexist. If we're going to nominate a woman, I'd prefer we nominate one who is a strong feminist who defends poor women and speaks out against militarism, which is itself a sexist method of problem-solving.

[SunsetDreams]

19. Obama does support working class women SEE VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msrw7iARKCE

[shadowknows69]

22. I do want a woman in the White House someday, I think it's long overdue.

Just not Hillary Clinton.