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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 08:55 AM
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Rasmussen Daily: Clinton back on top. Quinnipiac polls have Clinton beating Mac in PA, FL & OH too!
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 09:03 AM by goldcanyonaz
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday continues to show a tight race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. Hillary Clinton attracts 45% of the vote while Barack Obama earns 44%

Looking ahead to the General Election, John McCain leading Barack Obama 47% to 41%. He leads Hillary Clinton 46% to 42%

The survey shows that 19% of Democratic Primary voters will vote for McCain over Clinton. Twenty-two percent (22%) will vote for McCain over Obama.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll


:woohoo:

Pennsylvania: McCain vs. Clinton Quinnipiac McCain 40, Clinton 48, Und 8 Clinton +8
Pennsylvania: McCain vs. Obama Quinnipiac McCain 39, Obama 43, Und 11 Obama +4
Florida: McCain vs. Clinton Quinnipiac McCain 42, Clinton 44, Und 8 Clinton +2
Florida: McCain vs. Obama Quinnipiac McCain 46, Obama 37, Und 9 McCain +9
Ohio: McCain vs. Obama Quinnipiac McCain 42, Obama 43, Und 8 Obama +1
Ohio: McCain vs. Clinton Quinnipiac McCain 39, Clinton 48, Und 8 Clinton +9

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 08:59 AM
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1. Blaspheme! How dare you challenge the primacy of the all-powerful O-Brahma!?
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 09:08 AM by Deep13
She must quit before she starts winning more states!!!

:rofl:

'Course, all this may be academic as McC. is still ahead of either of them.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:04 AM
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3. I dare, I dare!
:bounce:

:woohoo:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:09 AM
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8. Pssst. I dare too.
But keep it under your hat. :-)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:06 AM
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16. keep it there for me also.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:00 AM
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2. That's my girl!!!!
:bounce:
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:05 AM
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4. I guess this is another one of those weeks
"DON'T look at the polls this week!!"

:rofl:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:08 AM
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6. Scoreboard.
Votes and delegates matter. Not polls.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:09 AM
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9. The General is what we're going after.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:05 AM
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5. Go Hillary!!
All the way to the White House!!

:bounce: :bounce:
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:08 AM
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7. Hot diggity!
Dog diggity....

She be rockin!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:09 AM
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10. Senator Obama Will Probably Be The Nominee
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 09:10 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
I'm a stone cold realist ...

But the fact that Obama can't put her away and the fact she polls well in the Battleground States should give folks pause...
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:14 AM
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11. So right. She is a formidable candidate who still garners much support.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:21 AM
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13. We Shall See If This Comes Back To Bite Us In The Butt In November
~
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WVRevy Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:33 AM
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32. Actually, I think you forgot a 'd'...
...'cause you'd HAVE to be stoned to not REALIZE that the skinny, "inexperienced" guy with the funny name is kicking your girl's ass all over the map. When you look at that OBJECTIVELY, the fact that this relatively unknown senator from Illinois took on and is BEATING the greatest Democratic political machine of the last 40 years, I think that's pretty damn impressive.

But hey...don't let REALITY get in the way of your spinning.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:19 AM
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12. All polls - RealClearPolitics - Popular Vote 49.5 - 46.9 Obama +2.6
Popular Vote 49.5 - 46.9 Obama +2.6
Popular Vote (w/FL) 48.5 - 47.1 Obama +1.4
Nat'l RCP Average 45.0 - 42.8 Obama +2.2
Pennsylvania 42.3 - 48.3 Clinton +6.0
North Carolina 49.8 - 37.8 Obama +12.0

....................

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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:27 AM
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14. Look, we don't want Clinton out in front just yet.
Public opinion is like the tide. Don't freak out about polls that show him gaining, we want Obama just a little bit ahead right now - that means the momentum will swing her way again right before the election.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:04 AM
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15. REC
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:06 AM
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17. Obama leads McCain in both Ohio and Pennsylvania.
And I have news for Hillary Clinton, she isn't going to win Florida.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:38 AM
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18. Bill Clinton Did in 1996.
By six points.

And LA, AR, WV, NM, MN, IA with over 50% of the vote. (Can't blame that on Perot & Nader)
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:41 AM
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19. Hillary will not win Florida in a 50/50 election.
Are you assuming that Hillary is going to beat McCain by 9 points, like Clinton did with Dole in 1996?

Bill wouldn't have won Florida in 1996 in a close, contested, 50/50 election.

Hillary will be competing in a 50/50 election, unlike Bill, whose 1996 re-election bid was a cakewalk.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:44 AM
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20. Same Story, Different Year2008 = 1996
Another OLD war here vs. a Clinton.

What do you think is gonna happen? I am surprised people are actually worried about McCain. (Especially with the problems in Banking this year...)
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:48 AM
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22. What I am saying is that in a 50/50 race, Hillary will not win Florida.
Do you think the race this year will be a 50/50 race? Do you think the final results will be more like 2000 and 2004 than 1996?

If the election results are as close as they were in 2000 and 2004, Hillary will not win Florida.

If Hillary beats McCain in the popular vote by 8%+, then she may have a chance to win Florida.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:55 AM
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23. I just don't get the negativity...
2000 was basically a tie. 2004 Ol' Jebby was still at the helm and Kerry did significantly worse than Gore in the national popular vote.

This year... People are freaking done with the Republicans. Frankin will win Coleman's seat in MN. Noriega will probably overtake Cornyn in Texas. And so on, and so on. Why do you think so many House Republicans are jumping ship?

Just because Gore did poorly in the South, compared to Clinton, doesn't mean those states are lost.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:57 AM
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24. I'm not being negative. I'm being realistic. FL has trended more and more to the right for years.
We will give it our best effort, and Hillary may be the best candidate for FL, but it's a state with a Republican governor and heavily Republican legislature that has trended even more GOP over the years. It will be an uphill battle for us.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:01 AM
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25. I remember discussion...
...during the aftermath of the '04 election where they looked at the more rural & northern counties in FL. The excuse that I heard most often? "They simply were lifelong Democrats who Vote Republican and never changed their registration."

Changed since when? 1996? Look the Individual State Results and look at the counties that Clinton won. Four years later? People don't change lifetime polical ideology in 4 years.


http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?off=0&year=1996
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:07 AM
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27. We lost in 2004 for a number of reasons.
1) There are more Republicans than Democrats in FL.
2) More Democrats crossed over and voted for Bush than we could afford.
3) Bush kept most of his Republican base (93% of Rethugs) while Kerry only won 85% of the Democratic vote.
4) Turnout was down in Broward County, our biggest Democrat stronghold in FL.
5) I do not rule out any irregularities and vote tampering in 2004. But that will likely not change in 2008.

To win Florida, a Democrat needs to steal some of the Republican vote away from McCain. They need to keep the Democrat vote away from McCain. They also need to have very good independent support. They also need a large turnout in Democratic strongholds like Broward. Can Hillary do that? Probably not.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:14 AM
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28. There are more registered Democrats in FL
And until Gore, they voted Democratic.

And I think Hillary is definately the candidate for Broward Co. (Hollywood, Ft. Lauderdale, Sunny Isles Beach, Aventura, ...)

Think about who their congressperson is...
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:23 AM
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29. Hillary may be better than Kerry in Broward County
But even if turnout was as high as the average in 2004 in Broward, we still would have lost because Bush beat Kerry in the I-4 corridor, which is the true swing part of the state. The I-4 corridor is full of independents and moderates, and it was the backbone of McCain's victory in the Republican primaries. He will play very well there in the general election.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:25 AM
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30. Perhaps McCain Did Ok During the Primary....
But with either Clinton or Obama, we are gonna win Florida this year.

**Remember, John McCain is Bob Dole without the senses of humor and style**
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:29 AM
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31. John McCain is not facing an incumbent. n/t
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:45 AM
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21. You forgot to mention that the same Quinnipiac polls
Also show Obama beating McCain in Pennsylvania and Ohio. But yes, Clinton does look stronger in those states. Still, I am relieved to see Obama winning them.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:04 AM
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26. I support Obama. I don't tout these polls even when he's ahead. They are meaningless this far from
the GE. The GE campaign has not started in earnest yet and these polls have been all over the map during the primary season. There has been little correlation with individual states' results.

<insert large picture of huge grain of salt here>

:dem:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:31 PM
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33. Good news!!!
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:38 PM
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34. K&R
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 02:12 PM
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35. Of course! :)
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 02:33 PM
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36. REC
:kick:
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 04:25 PM
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37. Kick
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 04:27 PM
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38. All she has to do now is win the nomination and then this poll might be mildly relevant.
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