SF Chronicle: B. Clinton Had “Meltdown” in Private Meeting With Superdelegates

[monicaaida]

Attendees tell the paper that at a meeting with about 15 supers in California last weekend, he went on a tirade about Richardson endorsing Obama, the media and the entire nomination process.

“Five times to my face (Richardson) said that he would never do that,” a red-faced, finger-pointing Clinton erupted.

One superdelegate: “It was one of the worst political meetings I have ever attended.”


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/04/02/BAVNVU2PJ.DTL&type=printable


http://thepage.time.com/

[DemGa]

1. Then no wonder Carville called Richardson a "Judas."

Did Clinton get it wrong five times? I highly doubt it.

[berni_mccoy]

2. No, Clinton is a pathological liar. He has his own reality. Just like Hillary.

[goldcanyonaz]

7. I agree, how repulisive of Richardson. I do believe Bill on this one.

And, anyone thinking Richardson is going to help Obama in the GE has another thing coming. The majority of Latinos take loyalty very much to the heart.

[cali]

9. trouble is we KNOW conclusively that Bill Clinton is a serial liar

and we have absolute proof of his dishonesty to his wife, to his family to his friends and to the entire nation. We don't know that about Richardson. It's ridiculous to give lying billy the benefit of the doubt. He is a liar.

[goldcanyonaz]

11. You can bank on the part about Latinos taking loyalty very seriously.

Stabbing someone in the back is how this will be viewed. That was the opinion out and about in Mesa the other weekend.

[Araxen]

14. Like the Clintons are above stabbing someone in the back lol

[book_worm]

15. If it came down to me believeing Bill Richardson or Bill Clinton

I'd take Richardson anytime.

[WolverineDG]

19. So how do Latinos feel about the Clintons doing the same thing

Does the name Lani Guinier mean anything to you? The Clintons didn't lose any sleep when they cut her loose:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lani_Guinier#Nomination_for_Assistant_Attorney_General_for_Civil_Rights

dg

[goldcanyonaz]

21. Think what you like, but there's a reason why Latino support is so high for Clinton.

They love the Clintons, the Clintons have been good to them and they do not forget.

Obviously I'm not going to change anyones mind, but we'll have to see what happens come November.

[WyLoochka]

28. Exactly why should Latinos

be "loyal" to the Clintons anyway? They didn't do anything of any substance for Latinos. I can't remember them ever taking a tough stand on their behalf, or proposing or pushing any legislation that might be helpful to their issues of being exploited etc

Maybe I'm overlooking something - but I just don't get why a significant number of Latinos roll over for the Clintons.

[karynnj]

25. In this case, Richardson called them before endorsing

even if he had said 100000000 times he wouldn't endorse, there could be things that Clinton does, Obama does or world events that would render his previous certaintly meaningless. Had he said 5 times he wouldn't and NOT called before endorsing, I could see Clinton's point, but he did call. He also spoke of the intense praise the Clintons gave McCain over Obama.

[ORDem]

16. So, what you're saying is that you selectively believe Bill when it suits your needs.

Care to tell us which of Bill's lies you didn't believe?

[CatnHat]

34. Richardson is an Opportunist

simple as that. Richardson is out for himself, he doesn't care if the majority of Latino's have close ties with the Clinton's. He couldn't care less about his voters in his own state.

[Pachamama]

29. "I did not have sexual relations with that Woman" (said with finger pointing)

Sorry, but just because Bill gets red in the face and points the finger and repeats himself doesn't mean he's telling the truth....in fact, based on past experience, it means he's lying....

Loved Bill Clinton's policies as President...no respect for his personal actions and how he handled himself and lied.

Sorry, but I believe the woman Superdelegate and others who witnessed this Bill meltdown...The fact that Art Torres, the head of the CA Assembly called her and apologized says it all right there....Bill screwed up and the stress is showing the cracks in the campaign of Hillary Clinton....

[Cha]

30. Finger wagging is important..

[Pachamama]

32. Hahaha! LOL!

The perfect comic illustration to my point.... :hi:

[CatnHat]

35. Wonder if Michele Obama

is still proud of America??? you know, since her husband became a candidate---pathetic.

[Bullet1987]

3. I don't think the Clinton campaign was expecting the Richardson endorsement at all

[americanstranger]

4. Maybe Bill ought to think about why Richardson switched

instead of freaking out about it.

He must have seen things that us regular people didn't see, and it must not have been pretty.

- as

[toys4kitty]

26. 2nd that thought!

Sometimes it's too easy to overlook the obvious. Although I can imagine Richardson explaining his decision to the Clinton's if they asked why. The question then becomes - would they hear what he said, or hear what they wanted to hear?
Oh to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.

[Life Long Dem]

5. Does this explain why we haven't seen him in awhile? n/t

[peoli]

6. anger management

[meow mix]

8. lol rof, he better chill

if Richardson had to repeat himself 5 times he must have been wiggin-out already...
"Five times to my face (Richardson) said that he would never do that,”

:rofl:

[C_U_L8R]

10. And Hillary melted down on the Art Museum steps

[dkf]

12. If I was there I'd be thinking "and this is what we look forward to if we elect Hillary"

Not good.

[Robeson]

13. Its called intimidation...

...when one is screaming "red faced" and "pointing fingers" at others in a small private meeting, its called intimidation, which is what he was doing, and probably has been doing in these "private" meetings.

[hedgehog]

20. It's a tactic that works until the victims get a chance to do some thinking.

Some will stay afraid, but in others it only ignites a permanent anger and mistrust. I wonder how many of the people involved were men and how many were women. Women especially are subjected to the anger of powerful men in the work place. We put up with it as needed to protect our jobs (which is the same as protecting our children - no job = no food & shelter for the babies), but we are skilled in waiting for the best time to respond.

[Robeson]

24. Yes, exactly. Some will cower under...

...but intimidation will often create antagonists, from former defenders.

[boobooday]

17. Me! Me! It's all about ME!

This is my problem with the Clintons. Is it all about them, or is it about our country, and what is best for all of us? The whole thing just seems so personal for them, and the process ABOUT them. It completely turns me off.

I am really, really over the Clintons and Bushes and Buchanans, McCain, freaking tired old pundits like George Will and Krauthammer and so many others (yeah, Kennedys too). Tired, tired, old bullshit. A quagmire of status quo-ism that has brought us to where we are.

:puke:

300 million people in this country. Time to rotate the stock. It's the democratic thing to do.

[Pachamama]

31. Amen....you just stated exactly how I feel about the Clintons and the whole crowd of pundits &

politicos we see day in and day out on the TV sqawking away...Me, Me, Me! It's all about Me! That summarizes it perfectly and your right, its not about them, its about our country and what's best for all of us.

Time to rotate the stock alright....Time for BIG CHANGES.

:kick:

[HereSince1628]

18. So? Bill's disappointed and feels loyalty wasn't duly served

I think we knew that.

also Bill has a temper. I think we knew all that from many anecdotes about his time in the WH passed to the media and historians/biographers.

People who care are going to have strong feelings. Sometimes they will be unhappy and say so in private among people who they think are like-minded. I think that's actually a sign of life.

It's not like emotion is strange to participants of this forum.

[hedgehog]

22. What Richardson did was put Clinton off five times. It was only

in Clinton's own mind that Richardson made any promises. It's a sample of the blindness that is enveloping this campaign. Hillary may be behind by just a few votes, but by all counts she is going to stay behind. A close second is still second.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

23. lets see, who do I believe, Bill Richardson or Bill Clinton?

ummm Bill Richardson! DUH!!!!!

[AntiFascist]

27. Clinton seems to have developed anger issues...

they are acting more and more like the elitists they have become. When they can't have their way with the people they get angry.

[JI7]

33. Clintons act like Richardson was married to them and cheated on them