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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:46 AM
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Obama to Clinton: 'Rocky' a movie
PHILADELPHIA — Barack Obama mocked rival Hillary Clinton this morning for comparing herself to the movie character Rocky Balboa as he offered Pennsylvania labor leaders a speech laden with red-meat economic populism.

Clinton has made the theme song from the 1976 movie "Rocky," which was set in Philadelphia, a part of the soundtrack of her Pennsylvania primary campaign. When she appeared before the same Pennsylvania AFL-CIO state convention a day earlier, she invoked the fictional working-class boxing hero to explain her determination to continue her campaign, declaring that, like Rocky, “I never quit.”

“There’s been some talk about Rocky Balboa over the last couple days. And you know we all love Rocky,” Obama told the labor leaders.

“But we got to remember Rocky was a movie,” Obama continued. “And so is the idea that someone can fight for working people and at the same time, embrace the broken system Washington, where corporate lobbyists use their clout to shape laws to their liking.”

Obama pounded away at corporate excesses and Republican economic policies.

“We’re ready to play offense for organized labor,” Obama said. “It’s time we had a President who didn’t choke saying the word “union.” A President who knows it’s the Department of Labor and not the Department of Management.

“Over the last seven years,” he said, “we’ve had an administration that serves the interests of the wealthy and the well-connected, no matter what the cost to working families, and to our economy.”


As he has elsewhere during his bus tour through Pennsylvania, Obama attacked $19 million in bonuses given to the two top executives of Countrywide Financial, a subprime mortgage lender that issues many loans now in foreclosure. The executives negotiated a sale of the company with losses to investors but the new owner, Banc of America Corp., recently revealed bonuses to the same executives.

“The system is broken – and over the weekend, we got a reminder of just how badly it’s broken,” Obama said, describing the bonuses. “That is an outrage. That’s not the America we believe in. It’s time to take on the special interests and level the playing field so that our economy works for working Americans.”

Obama pitched an economic agenda that includes middle-class tax cuts, a plan for universal access to health care, and stricter labor, environmental and safety provisions in trade agreements.

And he linked presumptive Republican nominee to the economic policies of the Bush Administration.

“John McCain said a few weeks ago that ‘the issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should’ – and that’s clear since all he’s offering is more of the same Bush policies that have put the American Dream out of reach for so many Americans,” Obama said.

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:47 AM
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1. First Kick! Balboa lost the fight to a black dude and fought for himself and his own goals
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:56 AM
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4. Rocky was swiftboated!!!!
:bounce:
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:52 AM
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2. Hillary made a cheesy comparison of herself
And every Philadelphian cringed. Hahaha.


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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:44 AM
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11. The woman can't pull off a joke.
Don't know what it is. Bad timing, poor content, but I swear, everytime she ATTEMPTS to make a joke she gets more "Oohhhhs" or cringes than laughs.

Major key to campaigning: Know your strengths.
This ain't one of them, Hil.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:41 PM
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32. No Shit! She Reads Them So Poorly It's Just Painful
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:49 PM
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27. Oh that's AWESOME
:rofl:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:56 AM
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3. K&R nt
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:57 AM
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5. “It’s time we had a President who didn’t choke saying the word “union.”
Brilliant. Fucking brilliant.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:00 AM
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6. And Rocky was a white ripoff of...Muhammed Ali.
True! I read a boxing aficionado's review of the Rocky movies in Film Comment magazine many years ago, and he pointed out how the incidents in each of the Rocky movies duplicated similar incidents in the career of Muhammed Ali. (For example, "Clubber Lang," the character played by Mr. T in the third movie, was representative of "Neon" Leon Spinks.) He was contemptuous that a white filmmaker (Stallone) was making a fortune by taking the real life of a black boxing champ and turning it into The Great White Hope.

You can draw whatever conclusions you wish about how this applies to the Obama/Clinton conflict.
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:11 AM
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7. Your analogy comes through LOUD and CLEAR! Very good !eom!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:18 AM
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9. I thought Rocky's character was supposed to be taken from Chuck Wepner. NT
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:40 PM
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23. Not at all.
Maybe the Spinks/Mr. T thing works. The computer simulation plot line in the last sequel was drawn from a Mohammed Ali incident, and they admit at much.

But Rocky in the first film had no comparison to Ali. Although one could argue that the Apollo Creed character was exploitation of white angst towards Ali.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:50 PM
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28. Stallone wrote Rocky as a
tribute to Rocky Marciano, Don't be a dolt.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:41 PM
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33. No dolt. The argument was legitimate and real.
I'm sorry I lost that issue of Film Threat a long time ago, but you'll have to take my word for it. It existed. And who in the 1970's knew who Rocky Marciano was? Maybe you have microfiche at your public library with that issue of the magazine. I don't.
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:15 AM
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8. And Mr. Obama slammed the real bad guy - McCain!
Let us hope there are many more slams of McCarbonpaperbush.

Sinistrous
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:42 AM
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10. Didn't Rocky LOSE?
I didn't see the Rocky movies but someone on MSNBC said that other day that Rocky actually LOST in the movie. Is that right?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:15 PM
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17. He loses to Creed in Rocky I by split decision
The point was that he made a good showing (Creed thought he would knock Balboa out in the first round).
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:32 PM
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21. "Ain't gonna be no rematch."
"Don't want one."
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:46 PM
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26. Hmmm. So this is a good analogy for her... how?
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:48 AM
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12. Where of course...
The scrappy, thuggish, barely intelligible “Rocky” is “unfairly” beaten by the flashy, pretty, crowd-pleasing Black guy Apollo Creed.

The subtext to her “Rocky Balboa” analogy sort of speaks for itself, doesn't it?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:06 PM
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13. It's good rhetoric (about unions)
I wonder how much scope he will have to live up to it (goes for Clinton too).
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:09 PM
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14. Story link, please?
Thanks.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:20 PM
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18. Sorry, Thought I Included The Link - Here...
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 12:22 PM by JimGinPA
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:31 PM
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20. Thanks!
n/t
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:10 PM
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15. .
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:11 PM
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16. I saw that it was awesome :)
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:21 PM
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19. GOBAMA!
:woohoo::kick:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:36 PM
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22. K&R
:kick:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:43 PM
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24. the 'judo' master in action
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:44 PM
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25. Gonna fly now...
Trying hard now
it's so hard now
trying hard now

Getting strong now
won't be long now
getting strong now

Gonna fly now
flying high now
gonna fly, fly, fly...

:D



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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:00 PM
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29. Well gee, obama figured that all my hisself that Rocky was a
movie, and I suspect Obama does not understand why HRC compared herself to the Rocky character.The unbreakable human spirit, determination, and the will to "go the distance as HRC so rightly spoke.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:09 PM
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31. Or The Reality, That Some Speechwriter Wrote A Lame Joke That She Flubbed...
But nice try.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:06 PM
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30. Hillary better watch out! LOL The writer/star of the movie (Sly Stallone) is a McCain supporter. nt
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:45 PM
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34. We have to remember Rocky was a movie? Really? Stunning.
Wonderful mocking rhetoric from the "uniter."
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