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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:07 PM
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A reminder of why Obama supporters may not be loving toward Clinton.
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 12:08 PM by mckeown1128
Anyone else remember that Pro-Clinton robo-call in Nevada where the voice emphasized Obama's middle name no less than 4 times in 30 seconds? Culminating with "we just can't take a chance with Barrack HUSSIEN Obama." This makes me SO MAD. I don't Democratic President who uses that kind of robo-call

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Robocall_trashes_Barack_Hussein_Obama.html

Link working now.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:08 PM
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1. and of course we know she was behind this call because?
no wait, we have no idea if she was behind this call or not.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:10 PM
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3. That's right. It could have been Lee Mercer for all we know! nt
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:39 PM
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41. _1heh!_ 1heh!_ 1heh!_
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:10 PM
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4. Ohh your right....
It very well could have been Edwards... because he really was going to put his reputation on the line to break 4% in Nevada. :eyes:


Please... only one person could benifit from this type of tactic in NEVADA.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:11 PM
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5. and surely rove has never been known to do this sort of thing
no wait, he has.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. so your saying that Rove.... personally funded a robocall...
to attack Obama in the Nevada primary.... why the hell would he waste time and effort doin that?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:16 PM
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13. to sew dissension
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 12:43 PM by dsc
not that it would have worked. On edit for the dumbest poster alive. This post is sarcasm. As part of sarcasm we sometimes say things that are the opposite of what is true. When I said the words "not that it would have worked" I meant " as it worked". Does that help?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:17 PM
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18. You have no clue how idiotic you sound...
just stop while your ahead. Your silly little scenario doesn't even make sense.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:22 PM
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25. see the other response.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:13 PM
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7. listen to yourself. that is ridiculous.
Rove crawled out of his hole and went to Nevada to place Robocalls for Clinton for the hell of it?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:16 PM
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15. Don't bother... up is down and down is up for some of the
Clinton supporters in DU... they "believe" that Clinton is entitled to be president and now that she is all but down... they have to grasp at straws anyway they can.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:17 PM
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16. to sew dissension
not that it would have worked.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:18 PM
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19. So even thought according to you it wouldn't work...
why than would Rove do it? I swear you are so full of it.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:21 PM
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22. christ jesus on a shamrock
do we really need sarcasm icons on every damn thing we type. This entire thread would be exhibit A in dissension sewed by those calls.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:23 PM
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26. But according to you it didn't work. nt
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:46 PM
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45. ok once very, very, slow
Sarcasm means that when I said "not that it would have worked". I meant "as it really worked".
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:24 PM
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49. Ok... if Rove and the GOP did put out this robocall....
why? I ask you. Why, did we not hear about this in the press? Wouldn't fox news be on this like a fatboy on cake? Wouldn't we have had a months worth of "Clinton attacks Obama using his middle name" speculation? Why would the GOP put money into making enough calls for the chance... that an Obama suppporter would get the recording off of their voicemail and send it into Obama.. That would take a lot of calls... why when Obama brought this to the media... did only Politico... run a little blurb about it? Wouldn't this be frontpage Drudge/Freeper/Newsmax/Foxnews material... if they wanted to do this to cause division and mistrust to the Democratic party?

or could it be that Clinton was freaked about the SEIU of Nevada backing Obama... and that she wanted to shift some voters her way... quietly under the radar.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #16
34. that's "sow" as in sowing seeds of dissension
not sewing the fabric of dissension
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:19 PM
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57. lol
:rofl:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:27 PM
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29. Rove did it the same week Bob Kerrey made a big deal of the middle name?
uh huh.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:15 PM
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11. Was that slight against Edwards necessary? You Obama DU fans have no shame.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:20 PM
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20. It wasn't meant as a slight...
I was actually trying to defend Edwards against the assumption that he would be behind this robocall. I was trying to point out that it wouldn't make sense for Edwards to do this... because Nevada was never an Edwards friendly state. I truly apologize... I didn't mean to demean him. I have always like Edwards and he has always been a near tie to Obama in my mind. Check my profile.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:40 PM
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42. Because she hilary fucking clinton, who
plays in the "gutter", that's why.

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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:09 PM
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2. It could have actually been calls put out by Obama
or Obama supporters. We do not have any proof that Clinton had anything to do with this.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:13 PM
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8. you're kidding right?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:13 PM
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9. Clintonian logic...
"Obama put out calls criticizing himself... emphasizing his middle name.... to improve his chances in Nevada".....:eyes:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:16 PM
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14. You know, someone could go into her FEC reports and find if robo-calls were paid for in Nevada
Oh...wait...what am I saying...she HASN'T PAID HER NEVADA BILLS YET....x(
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:22 PM
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24. Well since I can't stand either Clinton or Obama much
I guess I am not guilty of "Clintonian logic". LOL!! I just don't care much for slander without proof. I am just funny that way. I am fond of the law and the Constitution and silly things like that. Both sides of these candidates throw around accusations without any proof. If anyone really cared about robocalls, they can investigate and discover where they came from.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:15 PM
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12. That rationalization just sounds desperate. n/t
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:20 PM
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21. Wow, that is idiotic. (nt)
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:19 PM
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48. ..
:rofl:
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:15 PM
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10. Whew! Thanks. For a minute there everyone was forgetting how righteous their hate is. n/t
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #10
17. and let's not forget obsession over pro-HRC sites.
And making a "list" of those offenders.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:26 PM
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27. You mean that site where DU posters go to post in a forum
called "DUmp" where they brag about spamming DU... then they come here and complain about how Obama supporters aren't being nice to them. You mean the list of those names???
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. You're a one-trick-pony, aren't you.
No such forum exists there. Get over it.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:32 PM
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36. Yes I know... you folks changed the name of the forum
once I broke the news about it. I realize... it's harder to convince DU'ers to try out that site when everyone knows that it has a forum called "DUmp"... bad publicity.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:31 PM
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52. Wow, just wow. They set up such a thing and still have the gall to show their faces here?
Their arrogance is unbelievable.

:thumbsdown:
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:35 PM
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53. I know... then they lie and say there is no such forum as "DUmp"...
when several of us saw it with our own eyes.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:07 PM
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56. Did you have a smoke after you posted that?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 04:02 PM
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58. Ohh Don't tell me that you post in the "DUmp" forum too? nt
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 04:09 PM
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59. I thought you knew everything?
My, my, my. How the mighty spy has fallen!
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:25 PM
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60. I bet they sit around and bitch about me.
I sure hope they do. :evilgrin:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 08:43 AM
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61. I'm sure you do.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:21 PM
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23. Nowhere in here does it mention Clinton
I wouldn't be surprised at all if this were funded by Republicans.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:27 PM
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28. That is ridiculous... why would they do that?
Why only Nevada? Why only Obama? Wouldn't it make sense that someone competing against Obama in Nevada would do that?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:32 PM
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35. It was Elvis
The King don't like nobody with any kinda star power horning in on his home turf. That's right mama, uh-huhn, uh-huhn, uh-huhn.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:33 PM
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37. it does make sense that Clinton would do it
that's why I wouldn't be surprised if it actually WAS republicans who were behind it. They can have it both ways. Tarnish both Obama and Clinton and not get blamed for it.

I don't put anything past these guys. My point is that there are two groups right now that have an interest in bashing Obama.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:36 PM
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39. Except as someone pointed out... same time
Bob Kerrey had his similar incident... and if it where a Republican created call... wouldnt' Fox News have picked up on the robocall and bashed Hillary for weeks about it. They didnt' and that is evidence to support that it wasn't Rove made.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:43 PM
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43. You're saying that since Clinton-D made the call
they didn't know about it and didn't report it. Essentially, if it were created by republicans then it would have been leaked and Fox would have killed her for it? Hmmm. It's an interesting point.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:29 PM
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33. Also.... why would Republican's attack obama for taking money
from "lobbyists and corporate fat cats" and the oil industry.... sounds like Democratic talking points to me... not Republican talking points.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:29 PM
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51. agreed
Amazing isn't it? "It couldn't possibly be the Republicans doing dirty tricks - it must be Clinton!"
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:28 PM
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30. No one expects you to be loving. Minimal civility would suffice.
Civility shows maturity, though, so I understand why some of y'all are incapable of it.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:29 PM
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32. It's just soo Rovian. Remember what McCain went through in 2000?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:34 PM
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38. It's upsetting to see a Democrat use those tactics. nt
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:37 PM
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40. also, she keeps pooping on my face
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:43 PM
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44. That is his name?
Gotta be named something, I would think this is muc to do about nothing except those who support the war and think he is tied to Saddam Hussein. That is his name , he should be proud of it and not hide. Using this for fodder is gonna happen now and in the GE if he were to win the primary. He'd better get used to it.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:00 PM
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46. My last name is Low, I'm chinese
You can bet that when I was a kid I got made fun of that name all the time. There are some lame jokes to be made. Of course I'm not ashamed of my Chinese heritage, but when someone uses something about you as a negative, you get defensive. You can bet that I had some snappy retorts handy. That's all these talking points are. When someone is trying to use Hussein as a negative against Obama he had better have some kind of response.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:26 PM
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50. So it's ok to you that Hillary is using Obama's middle name...
to get out the biggot vote? Is it justified to you because the Republicans will do it anyway?
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 02:48 PM
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54. No, it's busting the bubble.
Taking away their ammo against him. Think about it, if it does'nt bother Obama then it should'nt bother those who support him. No reason to hide anything because there is nothing to hide. Understand? Rethugs will throw the kitchen sink, the stove, the refridge they will push this in the GE..get used to it and have an answer imo.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:04 PM
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55. Ohh. so Hillary can use every dirty tactic....
just because the GOP will... O...K.. gotcha.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:07 PM
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47. So many to choose from.........
Do we know the story on this:

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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 08:49 AM
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62. What's funny about the attackers of this post...
it's the same dozen people who, if they were honest...

would admit they wouldn't care if it WAS Clinton's Camp that did this...

they'd just repeat their usual tactics of "Well Obama does the same stuff... and it IS HIS NAME, after all, and BLAH BLAH BLAH..."

abjectly pathetic... and they wonder why we question their Democratic loyalties when they act like scandal-mongering Limbaugh Parrots.
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