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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:10 PM
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***Breaking New Super Delegate for Obama and **Delegate Update**
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 03:40 PM by grantcart
EDITED TO ADD NEW SUPERDELEGATE ENDORSEMENTS BREAKING 1:30 PDT


There have been a number of adjustments with the results of the Texas Convention, TVOR Mississippi recount, and Superdelegate Endoresements:

Here are the key numbers from AP and Demcomwatch
(http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/03/ultimate-delegate-summary.html Demcomwatch has become the definitive source of all matters relating to the Democratic Convention and has very strict guidelines about judging superdelegate endorsements.)


Delegate total needed for nomination (continually changes mostly due to vacancies or filling in Congressional seats)
2023.5

Super Delegates

Pledged Delegates(AP) Superdelegates Total

Obama . . .1414 . . . . 215 . . . . . . 1629 Obama's lead is now 164 in pledged delegates and 132 in overall delegates.

Clinton . .1250 . . . . 246 . . . . . 1496

Edwards . . .18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 18

Undeclared . .0 . . . . .332 . . . . . . . 332

Updated 4/2/2008 Delegates Needed: 2023.5


"Pelosi Number" The number to reach 50%+1 of pledged delegates
Obama 213

Clinton 377

Number of non Obama Super Delegates that have stated that they will support Obama after he reaches the "Pelosi Number" = 5

Sen. Maria Cantwell (WA) - most pledged delegates, most states won
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (CA)
Christine Pelosi (CA)
Gov. Roy Romer (CO)
Betty Richie (TX)


The additional Superdelegate has just indorsed Obama and is not listed in the above figures
AP-MTMelcher-Obama,0108 Second Montana superdelegate lines up behind Obama Eds: APNewsNow. Will be led.

By MATT GOURAS Associated Press Writer HELENA, Mont. (AP) Former U.S. Sen. John Melcher says he is going to cast his key Democratic Party superdelegate vote for Barack Obama.

Melcher is one of eight Montana superdelegates who can vote for whoever they please at the party's national convention this summer.

Melcher says he chose Obama because he believes the Illinois senator has been against the Iraq war since the start.

One other Montana superdelegate, Ed Tinsley, earlier announced support for Obama.

All the others including Gov. Brian Schweitzer and U.S. Sens.

Max Baucus and Jon Tester have said they will wait until after the state's June 3 primary to decide.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080402/ap_on_el_pr/obama_endorsement;_ylt=AsEy7UDQgOEI6jZ4yMhZmYis0NUE
Governor Freudenthal endorsed earlier and is included in the numbers above


CHEYENNE, Wyo. - Wyoming Gov. Dave Freudenthal, a former Clinton administration appointee, announced Wednesday that he will support Illinois Sen. Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination.

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Freudenthal said he was impressed by the large, enthusiastic crowds that turned out to see Obama when he visited Wyoming ahead of last month's caucuses.

"They paid attention and were riveted and reactivated, and trying to be part of an America that's bigger than just their own self-interest," Freudenthal told The Associated Press. "And you hope that can work. Because something has got to dig us out of this morass that we've gotten into, where it's sort of gotcha politics."

Freudenthal is the second Western governor and former Clinton appointee to endorse Obama in recent weeks. New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, former energy secretary and UN ambassador under Clinton, announced his support for Obama two weeks ago.

Former Indiana Rep. Lee Hamilton, who was the top Democrat on the Sept. 11 Commission, also endorsed Obama on Wednesday


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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:14 PM
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1. Thanks for your hard work!
I always look forward to your insightful posts.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:17 PM
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2. actually it is Oreo and Matt at Demcomwatch who do the hard work
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:19 PM
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3. Jack Cafferty just said Obama won TX!
"...And remember Clinton’s argument that she is the only one able to win the big states? Well, it turns out she didn’t win Texas on March 4th. Although Clinton won the primary she lost the caucuses. And Barack Obama actually walked out of Texas the winner, collecting more delegates than Senator Clinton: 99 to 94..."

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:24 PM
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5. They are about 5 days behind
AP has made the change in their numbers but CNN still has the outdated Misssissippi number and need the new TVOR number.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:28 PM
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8. I know. But at least he mentioned it...like Rachel Maddow did yesterday,
only to be shot down by Scarborough who's now officially in love with Hillary.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 04:21 PM
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21. Good for Jack Cafferty! Somebody's sayin' it
on m$$$m!
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:21 PM
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4. Obama should reach critical mass by Oregon
and it's been interesting watching the super D's trickling into his column one or two at a time.

If she doesn't run out of money first, this should be a done deal by end of May.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:24 PM
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6. Do you think
that Wyden and/or Kulongoski will switch to Obama?

I would bet that Wyden will and Kulongoski won't.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:46 PM
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12. I don't think Kulongoski will.
But while we're on the subject of the PNW, I think Murray and Cantwell will switch.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:49 PM
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15. see below on Cantwell she has already announced it basically
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:47 PM
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13. What we know is that there is a real weakening of support on those SD
who supported Clinton early and are now rethinking it. Hear is Sen Cantwell who clearly has decided to change but doesn't want to create waves yet. There are many others. We also know of a number of other people who are soon to become SDs who have already indicated they are strong supporters of Obama (shadow Rep in Washington DC for example is just waiting for the formality of appointment as DNC candidate - the rules require that he be appointed)

This is why Carivele is on the TV talking about 'Judas'. They are trying to intimidate those that have gone soft from changing.


U.S. Sen. Maria Cantwell, one of Washington’s 17 Democratic superdelegates, isn’t ready to shift her allegiance from Sen. Hillary Clinton to Sen. Barack Obama — yet.

But in an interview with The Columbian’s editorial board Monday, she said the candidate with the most pledged delegates at the end of the primary season in late June will have the strongest claim to the party’s presidential nomination.

“I definitely don’t want the superdelegates to be the deciding factor,” she said.

“If we have a candidate who has the most delegates and the most states,” the Democratic party should come together around that candidate, Cantwell said. The pledged delegate count will be the most important factor, she said, because that is the basis of the nominating process.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:28 PM
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29. Wyden hasn't endorsed
to my knowledge.

He said he didn't want his health plan mixed up with anybody else's, last I heard.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:52 PM
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31. That's good to know ...
My faulty memory had him endorsing Hillary, and I remember being surprised and disappointed.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:11 PM
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27. I think that he will in fact get 50% of the pledged delegates in Oregon
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:26 PM
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28. it looks like he will get 50% of pledged delegates in Oregon
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:25 PM
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7. Thank you for the update. n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:38 PM
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9. just after I issued this another superdelegate endorsed Obama
and I have added that to the OP
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Ysabel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:40 PM
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10. more thanks k and r (n/t)...
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:45 PM
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11. There goes Bill with his pointing finger again, so is this guy a Judas too Bill, or is
it just time to let the bitterness go?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:49 PM
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14. No he is part of the dead to us Montanans
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:57 PM
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16. Kick and Kickin' Ass!! Go Bama
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 04:00 PM
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17. He's been picking up a superdelegate or two A DAY
This is incredible! And how many has Clinton picked up since Super Tuesday?

grantcart, do you have the breakdown for superdelegates since Super Tuesday for both Obama and Clinton? I'd be fascinated to see that.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 04:06 PM
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18. details at demcomwatch her lead has gone from 93 to 34 er 33
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 04:19 PM
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19. Wow! Spin *that* graphic!!!
Whatever whacky and ever-changing arguments she's been using to convince superdelegates, ummmm, they're not working.

Maybe that explains why the Clintonian arguments/rationales seem to change daily?
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 04:34 PM
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22. lol!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:02 PM
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25. loved the article that said Obama's diplomatic skills need to be improved
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 04:19 PM
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20. This guy knows where it's at!
"By MATT GOURAS Associated Press Writer HELENA, Mont. (AP) Former U.S. Sen. John Melcher says he is going to cast his key Democratic Party superdelegate vote for Barack Obama.

Melcher is one of eight Montana superdelegates who can vote for whoever they please at the party's national convention this summer.

"Melcher says he chose Obama because he believes the Illinois senator has been against the Iraq war since the start".

Thank you, Former Senator John Melcher :patriot: :bounce: :kick: :party:

Thanks grant for bringing all this on DU.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:27 PM
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24. so much for conservative Montanans lol
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:30 PM
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30. They want to conserve our land and our
people for future generations!
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 04:48 PM
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23. Yay! And kick.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:06 PM
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26. evening kick
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 08:33 PM
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32. ..
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 08:33 PM
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33. K&R nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:02 PM
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34. Pres. Carter stumps everyone on who he is for ?
http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=107611

Former President of the United States, Jimmy Carter has hinted that he might cast his vote for Senator Barack Obama to aid his emergence as the candidate for the Democrats in America’s bid to elect a new President.
Carter, who is a Super Delegate from Georgia State, gave this hint at a media interaction after the Carter Center Awards for Guinea Worm Eradication in Abuja yesterday.
Carter, who was accompanied by his wife Rosalynn, did not profess a direct support for Obama but rather choose to make a veiled statement.
“We are very interested in the primaries. Don’t forget that Obama won in my state of Georgia. My town which is home to 625 people is for Obama, my children and their spouses are pro- Obama.
My grandchildren are also pro- Obama. As a Super Delegate, I would not disclose who I am rooting for but I leave you to make that guess," he said.


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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:10 PM
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35. kick for reality.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:46 AM
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36. late night kick
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:49 AM
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37. K&R
Good post, and keep up with the facts!
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:42 AM
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38. K & R
:thumbsup:
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:56 AM
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39. Pelosi number?
Is she talking about changing the rules mid-game now?
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:09 AM
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40. No - refers to the threshhold of support that will garner her superdelegate vote
(All pledged delegates / 2) + 1. Several other pols have adopted that threshhold as their decision number.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:45 AM
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41. Thanks for the clarification....
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:59 AM
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42. momentum seems to be with Obama
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