This is going to piss lots of folks off but...what is the attraction to Bill Clinton?

[Raven]

He's got a light bulb for a nose, long boney fingers, he talks like a goober and he's got a funny mouth. What the hell is it about this guy and don't start spouting policy crap to me!
;-) }( :P :evilgrin: :think: :silly: :hi: :scared: :hide: :nuke:

[anonymous171]

1. Charisma.

[Blue-Jay]

2. Penis.

[DearAbby]

15. never seen it....

I'm an old granny, its not how it looks, its how you work it...damn, I sound like my ex-husband...says "its not the size its the cute way getting on and off" :evilgrin:

[Blue-Jay]

21. You should write him a letter.

[DearAbby]

23. Why for an 8x10 glossy?

:rofl:

[AX10]

3. He was the first Democrat in 60 years to win re-election to the Presidency.

[democrattotheend]

35. I give him credit for that

But I still think his presidency was a disappointment in many ways. And I don't have high regards for him as a person. I don't think his personal life reflects on his ability to do the job but it does affect my respect for him as a person.

[Doc_Technical]

59. 44 years.

LBJ in 1964.

[olkaz]

80. Against Bob freaking Dole. Very impressive.

The Republicans punted in 1996. This was no great accomplishment.

[lumberjack_jeff]

4. "and don't start spouting policy crap to me!"

Obamagirl? Is that you?

[DearAbby]

5. Charisma.. Ooozes of it...............n/t

[Parche]

6. He Feels My Pain

And I can impersonate him very well!! :woohoo: :woohoo:

:hi:

[DJ13]

7. The ability to lie but make people not care he's lying

or penis, like the other poster said.

[DemVet]

76. The ability to lie but make people not care he's lying - Kind of like Obama

[Sequoia]

8. Saxaphone.

He was inspiring when he first ran for Prez.

[bellasgrams]

30. He is still inspiring and still nice looking and brilliant. He knows

what to do to get us out of this mess and i'll bet if Hillary was nice he'd be willing to answer any questions she doesn't already know.

[Bluebear]

9. Post your photo, are you an oil painting yourself?

;)

[madaboutharry]

10. This is what my mom told me after seeing him in person

He really does not photograph well. That he is actually (well 12 or so years ago) much better looking in person. Also, his charisma makes up for whatever is lacking.

[Jersey Devil]

22. Don't know how she could tell

I saw him twice in person and both times he had on so much TV makeup it made him look like a cartoon. The only think I noticed is that he is a BIG guy and his hands (which I shook) are enormous.

[madaboutharry]

74. Well, that is a good point.

She may not have been as observant as you.

[bigwillq]

11. I never thought he was that attractive

But I heard he really does have a lot of charisma in person, and I find that attractive.

[Vinca]

12. Whatever he has - or had - he lost some of it during this campaign. nt

[bellasgrams]

33. Bill hasn't lost anything, just because you're for BO you don't

have belittle the best President since JFK. I've lived to see both of them and the screw ups in between.

[Vinca]

38. You don't think Bill's hissy fits have changed his image?

It's got nothing at all to do with supporting Obama. I also remember JFK and all those in between. Bill was a very good president, but in retrospect I wouldn't say great because his trade policies have decimated the jobs in this country.

[Tarheel_Dem]

43. they have indeed, and his favorability ratings have taken a serious hit...

He should have done like GHWB did with regard to W and John McCain. Instead, Bill chose to seek his 3rd term, and as a result his negatives now rival those of his wife.

[bellasgrams]

50. I'm also having hissy fits over the biased media coverage.

Hillary is not being treated as an equal and Obama's calling the Clintons' racists just put me over the edge. But as time goes on, Bo has done so many things that are blatantly wrong it's madding to see him still having supporters. The man was raised anti-America, anti-white, he went on to join a church to match his own feelings. His wife's thesis was about race. Forget the fact that they have done quite well in this horrible country. That doesn't make any difference. If Bill or Hillary did or said any of these things they would have hell to pay. Anyone that feels the way the Obamas' feel should not be given the job of running or should I say ruining the country.

[Dissent Is Patriotic]

13. He oozes sex appeal.

[Whisp]

20. ouch, you made me heave a bit...

:vomit:

differ strokes for different folks I guess, but ugh, I find him creepy and dirty old manish, not sexy in the least.

[canadian_is_cold]

48. I think I just threw-up a little in my mouth ;p

[MADem]

14. He has an intense ability to FOCUS on you, and make it appear as though you are

if not the only, but the MOST IMPORTANT, person in the room.

It's an ability that crosses gender lines, too.

After all, if someone thinks that you are a rocket scientist and the Be-All and End-All of the Universe, you tend to think that person holding that opinion is a pretty smart fucker, eh?

Then, for some of the ladies, I suppose those pretty blue eyes and nice hair might sway them!!!!

[Whisp]

16. even Gollum looks good compared to Bush.

that's the only explanation I can come up with for myself, as I used to like Bill - until I started reading. :(

[LakeSamish706]

17. He used to have both "Charm and Charisma" but I think he has lost both....

during this campaign. I think that he is one step away from antidepressants at this moment in time.

[zulchzulu]

18. He feels your pain if ya catch my drift....winky winky nod nod

He always finishes off a bald-faced lie by slightly biting his lower lip. Poor bastard...

[Raven]

19. Oh, yeah, I forgot the lower lip thing. :-)

[HysteryDiagnosis]

24. The hand waving and finger pointing just makes me swoon. There

are some carnival barkers I'd rather watch. This is not a personal insult, it is just a fact. He has the I'm never wrong thing going on. He needs to wear a mirror to public speaking events.

[AlinPA]

25. I got a call two hours ago inviting me to attend a rally where Bill Clinton is speaking;

a few months ago I would have jumped to attend. After her mocking insults to Obama and his supporters in her speech in RI after the debates (the one where she was saying things like "the clouds will open, etc")I stopped following her campaign and stopped donating.

[NYCGirl]

26. I've always far preferred his Vice President. NT

[democrattotheend]

27. I am with you. I don't get it.

I like Hillary, but I think I'd like her better without Bill. He was a decent president and he is the only Democrat to serve 2 terms since FDR, but in many ways his presidency was a disappointment, and I don't have high regard for him personally. I think I would be a lot more excited about Hillary if Bill didn't come with her. I've lost a lot of respect for him during this campaign.

[bellasgrams]

39. Yes, BO has done a number on Bill, but it was the only way BO

could be sure to make a come back after NH. He had to play the race card. You'd think people would realize it was Clinton that had been the one that supported the blacks, and they supported him. Over 25yrs they got along fine till BO came along and called Bill a racist, now you'd think that people would give Bill the benefit of the doubt, especially after hearing the remarks in Bill's own words, but it worked for BO so he kept playing the same old record.

[still_one]

28. because the economy did well, and there were no major conflicts

I don't personally care for him or what I perceive he did to the party due to his reckless behavior, but that wasn't your question

[jconner27]

29. Better question what's the attraction to Barack Obama

I don't see it he's not saying anything new. He's not offering anything new. And his supporters can't explain why he's better only talking points and vague concepts of what he will do as president.

[Tarheel_Dem]

34. could it be that it's because he's not Hillary?

and that's good enough for me.

[jconner27]

37. I'm calling out Obama supporters now...

Obama and Hillary voting record match and they agree on most of the important issues. But according to you people they're night and day, right.

[Tarheel_Dem]

42. I can't speak for all Obama supporters, just for me....

and for me, once Edwards was out, I knew exactly what I would do because I had been leaning that way for awhile. Hillary was not my 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or even 5th choice. But that's just me. I have no illusions about Obama, but compared with Hillary, I think he's far more likely to build on our majorities in Congress so that we can actually get things done.

[jconner27]

51. Another story

The reason Dems lose offices it's not due to the Clintons when Dems sound like Republicans they lose that what happen in '94 and 02. As I see it Obama is the Republican choice because they know he's probably easier to beat then Clinton because he's very vague, and when the media goes back into their traditional role of helping the GOP it's going to be very easy to paint him whatever they want. I don't see any of the things Obama supporter claim he is, you attack Clinton on her vote for Iraq Obama votes to keep it going, he don't take stands on issues: Jena Six no one where to be found, Iran vote MIA which is funny he bashes Hillary for it yet he was scare to put his money where his mouth is and many of his supporters want people to shut up about trashing his speech in 2002. Like or not the context of the speech should be looked at, it's very easy for him to be anti war where he's running in a very liberal district not in Washington where the Republicans were using 9.11 as a political weapon against the Democrats. And the dude reminds of Bush, he speaks of hope and unity but let his foot soldiers do the dirty work and that won't work against the Republicans.

[babylonsister]

55. Big difference for me: I "TRUST" him. Her, not so much. nt

[jconner27]

57. Trust

It seems Obama supporters are the new Bush supporters in this election cycle.

[babylonsister]

58. Big difference; we want to get out of this godforsaken

illegal occupation and always have. Not so with * supporters. And FTR, I never saw anything coming close to worthy in *. I see lots of great traits in Obama. Spin that.

[Whisp]

70. there's that little war thingie. nt

[cornermouse]

36. They think he's a strong progressive.

I think they're wrong. If he wins, I think he's going to get in there and try so hard to work both sides of the aisle that we're going to end up with just as many republican oriented bills and laws as we would have had with McCain.

[Tarheel_Dem]

41. wow. what wonderful prognostication skills you possess....

NOT!

[cornermouse]

49. You aren't really looking at Obama.

You're looking at the fantasy you've created of him.

[jconner27]

53. I'm looking at Obama

It seems it's you and the other folks in the Dem party are lving in a world that doesn't exist.. Obama can speak about the differences about him and Senator Clinton all he wants but the fact remains their records are the same. But here's the differences he doesn't take a stand on issues, he rather vote present or not at all then face the slings and arrows of his choices. He isn't saying anything new or anything inspiring it's all in the minds of his supporters that need to tell themselves he's something different. Like it or not he's like everyone else when things suit him politically he's there and when they don't or he's not sure he doesn't vote on it.

[Tarheel_Dem]

63. well thanks for presuming to tell me what i'm "looking at"....

I don't like people who lie for sport, and that icky feeling i got in the pit of my stomach everytime I saw Hillary was confirmed in spades. I made my choice under no delusions, I'm no bot or tron, or whatever the new meme is...I pride myself on having common sense, which is what lead me to Obama.

I get it, he's not your cup-o-tea, but for many of us, neither is Hillary.

[jconner27]

54. Put down the kool aid

There's nothing special about him the faster you learn it the better you are.. The Republicans don't fear him, the right wigners don't fear him they know they can make his "strength" his greatest weakness.

[burythehatchet]

72. I admire seers like yourself. I've paid many thousands of dollars to 900 numbers

for such clarity and understanding.

[Maddy McCall]

66. He's got big ears.

Easy to hold on to.

:P

[burythehatchet]

71. vague concepts of what he will do as president.

My friend, if you truly are interested in some clarity amidst your confusion I would be delighted to oblige. However, given that your statements are declaratory as opposed to questions, you seem to have arrived at your immovable position.

But just for grins I'll share the most important aspect about Obama's rhetoric. The one that convinced me to become an active supporter rather than a passive ex-Edwards voter. That aspect is his approach to meeting with people of all views and showing respect to all positions. You see, people can be grouped according to those who are arrogant enough to believe that Americans should enjoy a double standard in international relations, and those that believe that the path to peace can only be started when the parties respect each other. The only way to peace is to respect equally the voice of all parties. Obama has proven to me that his will bring the air of credibility to foreign relations. I trust him to do the right thing.

Is that too vague for you?

[cornermouse]

31. He's extremely intelligent.

He uses words that are longer than 2 syllables. (One and two syllable vocabulary example: See Dumbya)
He really likes people and likes talking and listening to them.

[izquierdista]

32. Bookends

Look at what came before and what came after.

[jconner27]

40. Bill Clinton isn't running( I wish he did)

It seems to me since there's little difference between Hillary and Barack, Obama supporters have to sound like Republicans when they talk about Bill Clinton to make Obama look good.

[izquierdista]

82. I wish he didn't

Eight years of him was enough, thank you. Fucked up national health care his first 6 months, so it was safe for the insurance industry for another 7 years, sold American workers down the road on NAFTA, sold welfare recipients down the road with that reform, and pussed out with "don't ask, don't tell".

I'm sorry if wanting national health care, worker protections, welfare to help people up, and equality for gays makes me sound like a Republican.

[JerseygirlCT]

44. I'm told in person he's very charismatic

His intelligence I find attractive. His lack of self-control sort of balances that, however!

[McCamy Taylor]

45. He. Is. Brilliant. Smartest president since Nixon. Hell of a lot sexier.

He makes guys fall for him. See how Al Gore fought with Hillary for his attention? I suspect that a lot of people that are mad at Hillary (like Dick Morris) are really just jealous over Bill Clinton. The man is a walking sex machine.

Men and women do not have to fit a certain Barbie and Ken model to be sexy . It has to do with the way that they look at the person they are talking to, the way that they smile, the way that they show interest in other people. All those women who accuse Bill of stuff that he could not possibly have done because he was somewhere else---they are stalkers who want his attention.

I have never met the man, but I can feel the vibes coming through the TV. And I usually am only attracted to men born under the sun sign of Taurus, like Stephen Colbert.

[kevinmc]

46. I hear some like how he uses a vagina as a cigar holder ..... n/t

[jconner27]

56. Obama supporters=Bush supporters 2.0

[emilyg]

60. Ah - another envious male.

[Lost-in-FL]

47. Are you series??>>?>>?

DON'T YOU MAKE ME VOTE FOR MCAIN!!!

[ShaneGR]

52. He cares

That's why I like him. I believe him. Ya, sometimes he says some weird things now. He is getting older after all, but I've seen him speak many times and what I always come away with is that he cares.

[DFW]

61. Spend about five minutes with him. You'll understand.

[madrchsod]

62. he makes you feel that you are the most important person

in that moment when he greets you..he never "looks over your shoulder" but has eye contact for that moment. the other person who can do this is barack obama..both men have that "gift"

i listened to a person on air america chicago who knows them both and that`s what he basically said about bill and obama.

[eilen]

83. I've watched both candidates speak

Hillary has shifty eyes, Obama looks at who he is talking to. Bill has the appearance of someone who has been hitting the sauce. I think GW has been drinking too. Maybe they've been having a beer together.

[Buzz Clik]

64. Ten years ago, that question didn't need to be asked.

These days ...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

65. He's a good salesman for the DLC.

Fortunately, most people are no longer in the market for watered down republican products.

[cornermouse]

73. What the heck do you think Obama is?

He's a watered down republican product. And if he gets in the White House I'm going to enjoy saying "I told you so" repeatedly.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

75. I'm not supporting either of them.

Both are solid "moderates" squabbling about minute differences in their politics-as-usual agendas when not slinging shit at each other.

[GoneOffShore]

77. Ooo, snarky - BUT

I wish I'd said it first.

:bounce:

He's the one who helped move our party away from basic principles and get on the side of the corporatists.

I stopped being a fan when he weaseled on NAFTA and then went on to sign the Telecommunications Act and DOMA.

He's dead to me.

[zulchzulu]

67. Bill 1.0 - Not bad considering Bill 2.0 - Honorable Bill 3.0 - WTF?

Bill 1.0 - Not bad considering
I worked the streets to get him elected and was ultimately disappointed in a fair amount of policies that he passed

Bill 2.0 - Honorable
After being out of office and before 2007, I liked what he was working on for the most part

Bill 3.0 - WTF?
He simply is ruining his legacy as a Hillary surrogate

Bill 4.0 - ?
After the Clinton Machine is dismantaled with the 2008 election, he may be able to change my mind if he changes course

[GoneOffShore]

78. He'll never reach Carter's status.

Carter has become a statesman and a hero in my eyes.

Clinton hasn't changed - he's still a huckster and a carny. In another life he'd be a grifter.

[greguganus]

68. He does cool cigar tricks. n/t

[Bucky]

69. Policy is the new pecs

Those quarterly tracking reports just make the ladies swoon!

[Marrah_G]

79. Everyone has their own taste.

I am not attracted to the kind of men/women that the MSM says I am supposed to be.

It's no big deal if he isn't your cup of tea. Do you really need to get insulting though? We all have "flaws" in our appearance.

[travelingtypist]

81. He likes women, all kinds of women.

He was the first Boomer president, the first president
that millions of women fantasized about.

I always thought Gore was the sexier of the two, but I
was also a Spock girl, liked the dark-haired intellectual.

[texastoast]

84. Brains

when he used them properly.

Rhodes Scholars are HOT!