I called it months ago: Dean: Dems will seat Fla. delegates

[joshcryer]

WASHINGTON - Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean said Wednesday the party is committed to seating Florida's delegates at this summer's convention as long as any agreement is supported by the party's two presidential contenders.

Dean met with Florida lawmakers to discuss ways of allocating delegates among Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton and prepare for the fall campaign in the battleground state.

The party stripped Florida and Michigan of their delegates to the national convention in Denver because they ignored party rules and moved their primaries to January.

"We are committed to making sure that we do everything in our power to seat a delegation from Florida," Dean said. "We believe we will seat a delegation from Florida."

Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080402/ap_on_el_pr/primary_scramble

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I fucking called it! I said it months ago!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4204975

[emilyg]

1. As they should.

[polichick]

2. AFTER the nominee has been chosen, I hope.

[Skink]

3. Hillary can have all the delegates......

she stood to gain mumentum and more popular votes if the primaries were done again and that is what she really needed.

[davidpdx]

4. In the end it will be up to the nominee or the credientials committee

Dean can help broker a solution. I've said in several places that I think both MI and FL will be seated. The deal is likely NOT going to affect the outcome of the primary though.

[joshcryer]

14. Dean didn't say they wouldn't count.

And it seems pretty bizarre that they wouldn't count when he said both candidates must agree, and Hillary would not agree to them not counting.

So a half delegate solution would probably be the compromise. :hi:

[madfloridian]

18. All Dean said was they would be seated, and gave them hotel rooms.

Counting is not up to him. He simply gave them hotel rooms and passed it over to the candidates to agree or disagree, or then on to the nominee..

He explained it very clearly last night on CNN.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1961

"DEAN: I would very much like to have Florida and Michigan seated. Because of the circumstances under which they held their elections, essentially which were not valid elections, they aren't going to be seated the same way that everybody else is.

They can be seated in one of two ways. One, they can be seated by agreement between the two campaigns if there is no clear winner, or, two, they will be seated I suspect by whoever does win the nomination. Whoever wins the nomination will control the credentials committee, which will control the seating. And I strongly believe our nominee is going to want Florida and Michigan in the hall. Under which rules, that will depend. The nominee will set the rules."

They only got seated and promised rooms. They were not told they would count.

[joshcryer]

22. He said that they would be seated with an agreed upon compromise.

The link I provided proves it.

Glad to see I'm not on your ignore anymore. :hi:

I guess being right is a good thing.

[anamandujano]

5. If they don't have influence in selecting the nominee, so f'ing what.

[DrDan]

6. EXACTLY - forget that equal voting rights part of the Democratic Party charter

screw 'em

[joshcryer]

9. They'll count.

Dean said that both would have to agree on it.

[anamandujano]

17. Therein lies the problem. They both have to agree. We already have

a good indication of Obama's inclination.

[joshcryer]

26. He won't refuse to count them because he'll probably have the most SDs in his pocket.

And if he does he'll lose all his SDs quite quickly.

[my3boyz]

21. Ohhhhh...I thought it was not about winning? I thought Hill was just so worried that the voters

could vote? She is a hypocrit! I hope she loses the primary. Then I hope she loses her senate seat so I don't have to see her sorry @ss on tv anymore. Perhaps then she would slink over to the dark side with Joe Liberman where she belongs.

[DURHAM D]

7. "to seat a delegation" could mean only allowing them to vote on procedural matters.

It does not mean allowing them to participate in the nomination process.

Also, the thing to watch carefully is their representation on the committees. That is where a lot of the power is and they (FL & MI) will likely not be allowed their correct representation. In other words, Dean, Brazile and others will pretend they are doing the fair thing when they actually are not.

[joshcryer]

10. He says both Hillary and Obama would have to agree.

Do you think Hillary would agree to their only being there for "procedural matters"?

I think this hints at the SD movement to Obama after June, actually.

[elocs]

8. I say in 2012 we should have TEGWAR for our primaries:

The Exciting Game Without Any Rules. Let all the states do whatever they like with no rules at all. That means that the first primary will be held sometime early in 2010, if not sooner. Rules! We don't need not stinking rules! We need to show everybody that as a party we are able to have actions and choices that have no consequences whatsoever.

[joshcryer]

11. I'm just glad to be right after all the BS from undemocratic posters here.

It's good to be right!

[elocs]

12. It is good to be right and you are very forthcoming and loud about singing your praises.

The music might be sweeter if somebody else were singing them, though. Congratulations on being right, does it happen often for you?

[joshcryer]

13. It does actually, I'm surprised with how right I've been this election season.

I said Hillary would lose at the beginning of Feb, many Obama supporters here refused to believe it.

[elocs]

16. I have to go with the George Costanza philosophy:

whatever I originally think I go with the opposite and that's usually right, or at least not as wrong.

[anigbrowl]

15. Thank goodness!

Seriously, did you expect they were going to be locked out of the convention? Not bloody likely. The most probably solution was always to seat the delegates once one candidate had a sufficiently strong lead that seating them wouldn't alter the outcome of the race (which would have made things really contentious, and just might yet although I think there's increasingly little risk of that).

[joshcryer]

23. Of course not, but some posters here still insist on it.

And in fact they're infecting my thread as I type.

[madfloridian]

19. All Dean said was they would be seated, and gave them hotel rooms.

Counting is not up to him. He simply gave them hotel rooms and passed it over to the candidates to agree or disagree, or then on to the nominee..

He explained it very clearly last night on CNN.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1961

"DEAN: I would very much like to have Florida and Michigan seated. Because of the circumstances under which they held their elections, essentially which were not valid elections, they aren't going to be seated the same way that everybody else is.

They can be seated in one of two ways. One, they can be seated by agreement between the two campaigns if there is no clear winner, or, two, they will be seated I suspect by whoever does win the nomination. Whoever wins the nomination will control the credentials committee, which will control the seating. And I strongly believe our nominee is going to want Florida and Michigan in the hall. Under which rules, that will depend. The nominee will set the rules."

They only got seated and promised rooms. They were not told they would count.

[joshcryer]

25. [Assure] Obama and Clinton [...] "comfortable with the compromises that have to be worked out."

Do you think Hillary would be "comfortable with them not counting"? Please don't be naive.

[MadBadger]

20. But they wont simply seat them as is, unless one candidate drops out.

[joshcryer]

24. Where does it say that anywhere?

[MadBadger]

28. It doesnt, I'm saying that.

They may seat the Florida delegation, but not as is.

[kwenu]

27. This is not news.