Hillary Supporters: I know where you got your latest talking point

[Sean Stuart]

That is, the "Obama is arrogant" meme of the moment. The simultaneity tends to give it away.

Link: Rove Talks To GQ: Obama Is 'Arrogant', Clinton 'Calculating'

Hey, Rove is good, so maybe he can do Hillary wonders in the primary. Good luck, you can keep him (until he works for McCain, of course).

[rodeodance]

1. HA--you can not link today's article to that word as many of us have used it for months! Silly

[shadowknows69]

2. Did you even complete 6th grade English?

[JuniperLea]

8. Yes, your insult makes you look far more intelligent...

:eyes:

[Joe the Revelator]

17. Are you Rodeo's knight in shining armor?

Thats cute.

[JuniperLea]

No, I'm just one pissed off woman...

I'm sick to death of the gang banging around here... I click to a new thread and I see four of you piled onto one person... cheap thrills?

[Joe the Revelator]

24. You must have your selective vision glasses on. Quick go change them.

Silly you.

[JuniperLea]

29. You aren't the least bit funny... just rude as all hell... eom

[Joe the Revelator]

36. Yes, your insult makes you look far more intelligent....

Now where have I heard that before?

[rodeodance]

47. You are one whose name and text was removed.

[Joe the Revelator]

50. I don't alert on posts if I'm rolling in the mud as well

Apparently you and yours do.

[rodeodance]

53. its a mystery who did that as it was not me. But I glad.

55. I don't alert on posts if I'm rolling in the mud as well

Apparently you and yours do.

[Joe the Revelator]

57. Yeah a real mystery...

:eyes:

[rodeodance]

25. Thank you. i was in a hurry and forgot a word. I should be more careful--but the gang

attacks are getting to be very troublesome.

[Joe the Revelator]

26. Woe is you

Why don't you quit complaining, step away from your computer, and start fighting real battles for your candidate?

[emilyg]

78. Why don't you? Obviously you are sitting

on your rear end.

[JuniperLea]

33. I'm sick of it! There are too many here that need a royal smackdown...

by the admins. I've always considered you a valuable member of this Cyber Society... this burned me up.

[OzarkDem]

37. Schoolyard bullies

Amazing how some of them have the same MO's.

[rodeodance]

56. yes. good gawd--being attacked like this is creepy. Thank you for being here.

[OzarkDem]

32. We wimmin stick together

The gang banging has gotten waaaaay out of hand and needs to stop.

I was called a "prick" earlier. Now I'm confused. :rofl:

[JuniperLea]

38. LOL!

That reminds me of the day when one of my posts got two responses... one calling me a Hillbot, the other asking if I kissed Obama with this mouth!

:rofl:

People just want to fight it seems... and I'm sick of seeing others getting ganged up on.

[rodeodance]

43. ;-)

[shadowknows69]

46. I never touched her

[OzarkDem]

58. ...

:spank:

[SwampG8r]

77. congratulations

you are being treated like a mans equal

[mtnsnake]

14. Did you graduate from Dweeb University?

I think so.

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[JuniperLea]

27. More insults...

You must have extremely low self-esteem to feel the need to do this.

[Name removed]

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[Blarch]

5. WTF ?

[rodeodance]

13. this link is great:

[tammywammy]

6. I've been wondering this for a while

Is English your second language?

[JuniperLea]

10. Some people just can't pass a chance to insult...

Compulsions are bad for you.

[tammywammy]

15. What insult?

I've noticed this same thing in a few of her posts and I was honestly wondering if possibly English isn't her first language and hence the typos.

And I've seen the same thing in my friends where English isn't their first language either.

[JuniperLea]

23. That's what PM's are for...

Why would you ask something potentially embarrassing in public? For all you know this person could be ill.

PM is your friend.

[tammywammy]

42. Whatever

She doesn't have to reply if she doesn't want to, and since she hasn't then I'll assume she won't.

[shadowknows69]

34. But trashing fat people in general is ok?

[JuniperLea]

44. I'm sorry, you're right... I edited...

I became what I hate... thank you.

[Tatiana]

11. I will translate this message for the others:

HA--Rove does not own the word "arrogant." Many of us have been using it to describe Obama for months! Silly.

[shadowknows69]

40. Now that I understood!!!

And I believe that Rove has bought the rights to the entire dictionary by now being the evil supervillian he is. See! I just got an email saying I owe him 1.85 for that last sentence.

[rodeodance]

45. Well said and thank you.

[roguevalley]

67. there was a bit about Hillary reaching out across the aisle to repubs

but not Obama. that was from Rush limbaugh. I was stunned to see it here.

[Skip Intro]

3. I've been saying it for months. 'Cuz it's true. He is arrogant.

SO are many of his supporters, especially here.

Seen any of the threads about the dumb white poor folk that "are Hillary's base?"

Remember the "likeable enough" quip from Obama, who couldn't bring himself to look her in the eye when he said it?

Tip of the iceburg.

Insinuating there is some deep rovian plot to pointing out the truth says more about you than any Hillary supporter.

[merh]

7. And Elizabeth Edwards says he is charming

so since she has met him, I will take her word over your's (and Hillary's or Rove's) any day of the week.



Edited to add: And arrogance can be found in the supporters of both candidates.

[rodeodance]

16. He is charming--AND arrogant

[merh]

51. All politicians have an arrogance

it goes with the ego and an ego is needed to run for office.

IMHO, Hillary's arrogance is to the extreme, she not only has the ego, she believes she is entitled to the office.

[Skip Intro]

21. Yeah, "likeable enough" was charming. So was refusing to shake her hand before the SOTU.

So was comparing her to romney and gouliani. So was calling her bush/cheney lite. So was calling her dishonest and untrustworthy.

I'm not making any of this up. Don't take my word, if you don't know it, and you really should, google it.

Read up and down the threads where Hillary supporters in KY and WV are being made out to be ignorant lower class, working class morons. Too stupid to vote for Obama. Not hard to find.

Don't take my word, open your eyes.

[merh]

48. He refused to shake Elizabeth Edward's hand after the SOTU

Have you got a link?

I don't take your word, I've been reading these threads and the Hillary bunch has no room to talk. The arrogance is on both sides.

[Skip Intro]

68. It'll be ok.

[merh]

69. Hey, you are the one that didn't make any sense

And I'll give you this comment to consider as you defend the innocent Hillary.

"'...well, now the fun part starts,' Mrs. Clinton said, punctuating the word 'fun.'" Senator Clinton, telling reporters in Cedar Rapids about her plans to attack Democrats from now until the Iowa caucuses.

[Skip Intro]

70. I'm not surprised I don't make sense to you.

There are many in the Obamasphere that don't recognize reality. I understand, I was once a Beatles freak, still am to a point. I understand that every criticism of Obama is an attack, and an untrue one at that. I get where you're coming from. I must not make a lot of sense to you at this point.

Having said that, I wish Hillary hadn't made that "fun" commment. I see it as pretty meaningless, but it wasn't classy, and she is a very classy lady. Considering Obama called her bush/cheney lite and said voters should question her honesty and trustworthiness, I don't see it as a big deal.

[merh]

71. She is a bush/cheney lite - he and Edwards both spoke the truth

about her. She will not change a thing, she will do as Bill did, cover the bush tracks, you know that cleaning up after bush she likes to giggle about.

BTW, I didn't understand your post because it was poorly written, not because of my political views. Your broad brushing is just silly, not unexpected, but silly.

[Skip Intro]

73. Edwards didn't call her that.

He did refer to her as representing the "status quo" for a while. It came and went. But that doesn't mean Obama didn't attack her character. He sure did. Your game of deflection is not as stealth as you might think. Your opinion of what she'll do after she wins is just that, your opinion. Or someone's you've adopted.

I kinda like my writing style, thanks. I hope you glean some truth from it.

[merh]

74. you are right, he said she just votes with the neo-cons

and that she defends the broken and corrupt political system in DC

He said her double speak is wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgSCV1F-76Y

Oh, and it is you that has been using deflection. Will you address the issues that I have raised or will you continue to dodge them?

[Skip Intro]

75. When you address the issues I raised, I will be happy to address the issues you raised.

Was it right for Obama to call Hillary untrustworthy, to tell voters they should question her trustworthiness?

Your demand that I answer your questions before you have answered mine shows pretty clearly, I think, who is engaged in deflection here.

[merh]

76. You need to try to be honest when you insist on discussing issues.

The "not trustyworthy or honest" was Obama's folks to some super delegates, not at all unlike Hillary's or her camp's discussions with superdelegates, to include but not be limited to, Richardson. You know, that bit about how he can't be elected, yadayadayada.

That "attack" as you view it has nothing on the attacks of Hillary, her efforts to mock the hope and the spirit of the Obama campaign. It is also interesting to note that as she was dogging the campaign, she was trying to capture that same spirit by stealing the campaign slogans. Seems slimey and yes, untrustworthy. That double speak that Edwards called her on.

She isn't trustworthy - that goes back to the issue you continue to dodge.

How can it be considered trustworthy to propose a mandatory health care plan that will contain regulations which will garnish the wages of the workers who cannot afford health care, YET you don't pay the health care insurance premiums for your workers?

How is that trustworthy?

How is it trustworthy to not pay the invoices for those small businesses and communities and organizations that helped you organize your gatherings?

How is it trustworthy to call Obama on what he hasn't done in the senate when, as a chair of a subcommittee tasked with overseeing the environment and toxic substances, you have failed to hold any such hearings and/or propose anything until it was publicly convenient?

I could go on and on - yes, saying she isn't trustworthy is legitimate - dashing the hopes of others, the spirit of those who dare to want change and mocking them as sheep and belittling them without knowing what they know of the issues is more than just "untrustworthy" - it is disgusting.

.

[Skip Intro]

79. Sorry, you're wrong. Obama did question her trustworthiness. Link. So did his campaign.

http://www.buffalonews.com/nationalworld/national/story/303564.html

"her efforts to mock the hope and the spirit of the Obama campaign" - my God, she didn't anger the wizard, did she?

What's funny is you excuse the Obama camp of hurling insults at her character by citing excuses that came after he attacked her character.

Again with the deflection. Again with the misdirection.

You know, I'd love to carry on here with you, but I think Star Trek Voyager is about to come on, and I would find that infinitely more engaging.

Have a nice night.

[merh]

81. And questioning her trustworthiness is legitimate

It is you excusing her attacks - or does her saying that McCain is better qualified come under the "well that's okay" category?

As Edwards noted in October and November, it was Hillary that began the negative attacks and the double speak, claiming to be above it all while getting down and dirty.

She puts her character out there, she claims to have experience and to have been Bill's apprentice and, as Elizabeth Edwards pointed out, she can't complain about being slapped back and be considered and equal to men. (After that "apprentice" comment, just imagine the campaign ads in the general election if she is the nominee "Hillary, you're not hired" - my gosh, she needs better advisors.)

"her efforts to mock the hope and the spirit of the Obama campaign" - my God, she didn't anger the wizard, did she?

You missed the part about her trying to steal the catchy slogans and make them her own, the problem with that is, she couldn't pull it off.

And how surprising (NOT) that another Hillary supporter dodges my very simple questions on the issue of this thread. You know, the questions posed relative to her support of that mandatory health care plan that would allow for garnishment of wages while she fails to pay the health insurance premiums. Is that not hypocrisy and untrustworthiness? Doesn't she have to pay the piper - practice what she preaches?

And it really isn't surprising that you find science fiction so entertaining, the fictional distortions of Hillary and her supporters sorta falls in that category. ;)

[Whisp]

59. OMG, you digging up that fake non handshake nonstory....

things must be Really desperate in Hillaryland.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

say, how's about that sniper story? is it up there on the arrogance scale with the nonstory of the nonhandshake?

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

9. Here in a photo of Rove and BO laughing it up:

[Alexander]

12. And here's Hillary Clinton laughing it up with Rupert Murdoch:

Your point?

[rodeodance]

19. OP made a fase claim--ha ha. I was showing OP the real link.

[Alexander]

22. That's not "the real link", that's just a picture.

Just like mine.

[rodeodance]

30. you are funny. But I see BO having a good time with Rove. te he

[Alexander]

35. The truth can be funny. And I see Hillary enjoying her time with Murdoch.

I also see prominent Hillary supporters like Ed Rendell calling Murdoch's FOX News "objective", something that Obama supporters have not been saying about Karl Rove.

Again, your point?

[rodeodance]

52. my point this time is that you are wondering--Stay focused on the OP please

37. The truth can be funny. And I see Hillary enjoying her time with Murdoch.

Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 07:34 PM by Alexander
I also see prominent Hillary supporters like Ed Rendell calling Murdoch's FOX News "objective", something that Obama supporters have not been saying about Karl Rove.

Again, your point?

[JuniperLea]

18. touchy feely too! eom

[shockra]

49. The Jesuses meet!

Well, Rove *was* born on December 25th. :silly:

[Hieronymus]

28. Now, Hillary is plagiarizing Reagan's old "boy shoveling shit" story.

[Tennessee Gal]

41. Obama IS arrogant.

I noticed that long ago.

[jgraz]

55. Yes, he is. And I'll take that over a cowardly pathological liar any day of the week.

[rodeodance]

54. So far it is a HIT on Hillary supporters and RUN.

[JuniperLea]

60. But the mods are smarter... and run faster too it seems...

Unless we have a new poster "Name Removed" who only posts with the subject line "Deleted Message" and "Deleted Sub-Thread."

:hi:

[rodeodance]

63. yes....

the mods were great with this thread-and quick.

and were you:-)

Thank you.

[Skoods]

61. I think it's about time..

that they rename DU to ObamaUnderground

It's become a safehaven for Obama supporters to gang up on Hillary supporters.

[emilyg]

80. You are so right.

[apocalypsehow]

62. "Arrogant" is an HRC booster code word for "uppity." They just can't come out and say the real thing

on a progressive discussion board without running the risk of getting banned, so they employ the term "arrogant" instead. It's just more race-baiting from them.

[rodeodance]

65. We leave that word to the BO fans and YOU. And making ASSumptions makes you look Foolish.

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62. "Arrogant" is an HRC booster code word for "uppity." They just can't come out and say the real thing

on a progressive discussion board without running the risk of getting banned, so they employ the term "arrogant" instead. It's just more race-baiting from them.

[apocalypsehow]

72. Unfortunately, I've become quite acquainted with the posting tactics of some HRC boosters.

The description of but one small incident will suffice:

One of the more well-known HRC boosters here posted a blatant lie about me in one of her posts. I posted irrefutable proof that her claim was untrue, five different times. She ignored this, and continued to blithely post the same falsehood. I put her on *ignore*.

Now, I belong to another board, a strictly pro-Obama board, and several members there, who have my "real world" e-mail address, lurk at DU because they enjoy the latest breaking news, the pro-Obama posts, etc. One of them e-mails me the other night and tells me claims - untrue claims - are being made about me by my *ignored* poster in a thread I was participating in.

This person e-mailed me the gist of these claims, to wit, that I had received a "mod warning" for posting to her, and was only pretending to have her on *ignore*, was a "sick fuck" and was "stalking" her. Every single bit of which was untrue - and, what's further, the poster in question had to know that her claims were untrue. She just didn't care: there was a debate to "win" on the internet, you see ( ).

Had that kind person at the other board I frequent not known both my "real world" e-mail address and DU identity, and had she not just *happened* to be lurking at DU, specifically GD: P, these claims would have stood un-refuted, and hundreds of DU'ers and outside lurkers would right now believe a patent falsehood about me (several falsehoods, in fact).*

That small tale sums up the tactics of the overall HRC campaign writ large, and it really turns decent people off.

(*edited repost)

[knight_of_the_star]

64. Fail

[InsultComicDog]

66. McCain is 'Incontinent' nt