Does Hillary genuinly think Barack can't win because he's black? Or is it another excuse?

[galaxy21]

Looking at what she allegedly said to Richardson ('he can't win Bill. He can't win') and several other reports that she's certain he can't beat mccain (despite having more money and support) and thinks Mccain in certain too (I don't know if Obama can win the GE, but if mccain thinks it will be easy he's got another thing coming).

Does she genuinly think he can't win? This in itself is not racism. Since many people have voiced that concern. But it shows she can't have much faith in her country.

Or is it another excuse? If if were Edwards leading instead, would she have bowed out gracefully and endorsed him by now? Or would she still be fighting it?

Either she's really out of touch with her country or she's willing to exploit racism to get what she wants.

[BeyondGeography]

1. If it were Edwards it would be something else

Hillay is to nomination as dog is to bone.

[BOSSHOG]

4. Yes

Only Obama's motivations are truly admirable and humble. He really doesn't want to be president but he feels drawn to the post by Jesus. Obama is not a politician, oh no he is far above that. And he would never lie to you.

[Cha]

10. But he has bosshog to jump on and

bring him to size so he doesn't need to worry.

[BOSSHOG]

17. He's gonna jump on me???

Help with your sentence construction. Who is going to bring who to size and who doesn't need to worry? Surely you are not writing speechs for the Senator.

[cliffordu]

41. Yes. Rabid dog.

[elocs]

2. He's black! Damn! I always thought he was a caramel colored white guy.

Or that he had a great tan.

[Justitia]

3. She thinks he can't win because he's not HER. She's wrong. -eom

[polichick]

5. She just can't get her mind around NOT winning herself...

Best laid plans don't always work out ~ but she hasn't accepted that yet.

[depakid]

6. It's lack of experience rather than race

Despite some people's attempts to frame it that way....

[shadowknows69]

20. Despite the fact she has less experience?

[depakid]

25. The Clintons were in the Whitehouse for 8 years

That I (or anyone else) doesn't like a LOT of the policies that came out of the experience, it's still plenty valid.

On the other hand, a month or two ago on some program that aired in Australia, we saw an interview with Obama where he talked about his qualifications. My girlfriend and I just looked at each other and said- he's going to get hammered on this.

[emilyg]

36. That's my concern with him.

[NanceGreggs]

7. I think she KNOWS he can win ...

... she's just hoping she can convince others that he can't. It's extraordinarily sad that she's come to this.

[galaxy21]

9. It's not lack of expeirence...it's been reported her reason for his unelectabilty is 'sensitive'

[TheWraith]

13. Nonsense and horseshit. If they had anything, they'd have used it by now. nt

[depakid]

14. Reported where?

[galaxy21]

24. An interview on fox news recently with Mark Happarin a journalist close to the campaign

He strongly implied Clinton thought he couldn't win because he was black and would use victories in Indiana and Pennsylvania to show this.

[NanceGreggs]

16. It's also been "reported" ...

... that she was pinned down by sniper-fire in Bosnia.

[sandnsea]

8. The country won't elect a woman or black man

How many times have we seen that posted right here, by a variety of candidate supporters.

[depakid]

21. I think Colin Powell (prior to his involvement with Jr.) would have won handily

as either a Dem or a Republican.

He probably would have even carried some (and maybe most) of the Southern States...

[sandnsea]

28. I'm just saying

this started with somebody else's campaign anyway, and I alerted many times because I thought the posts were exploiting racist and sexist fears.

[TheWraith]

11. No. It's because she's obsessed with winning.

It really has nothing to do with Obama. I suspect we'd see the same attitude no matter who else was in the race. She simply wants to win. She sees it as being her right.

[anigbrowl]

12. Too skinny - you need a 36" waist to wear those Presidential pants

Or something.

[IsItJustMe]

15. She doesn't think that at all. But it's a talking point for her, and we all know she will do

anything to win.

[Cha]

19. That's right..au contraire.

She thinks he will win and there goes 8 years when she's not president..she was suppose to be the winner!

hilary is a busted liar so what has she said that's been the truth or facts?

[RememberWellstone]

18. Inexperience

In a tough war time for our country. He will get eaten alive by the bed made from the rethugs. It's gonna take more than a good speech to revamp this nation.

[Tennessee Gal]

22. Obama will not win the GE.

[anigbrowl]

31. Well, that's a convincing argument. You sure changed my mind.

[DJ13]

32. I know losing to Obama sucks, so maybe this stress relief kit will help

[Catherina]

38. How did you fit so much bitterness and delusion in 6 little words? n/t

[2rth2pwr]

23. Always with the racism.

[Raine]

26. Hillary THINKS she's the only one

who can win. x(

[meow mix]

27. "He cannot win." due to not being the correct color.

they dont even have to come out and say it, because its so obvious that is the meaning.

[bettyellen]

29. obviously every single person who doesn;t adore him has the same reason, cause life is like that

maybe on your planet.

[BlooInBloo]

30. She's trying to ENSURE he doesn't win by using FUD tactics so that she'll get her...

.... I-told-ya-so chance in 4 years.

Nobody wants McCain to beat Obama more than Clinton. If Obama wins, that's the end of Clinton in the executive branch.

[rocktivity]

33. Depends on what her definition of "can't" is.

"Can't" as in "Obama isn't able to beat McCain"? Or "can't" as in "Hillary can't stand the prospect of losing to Obama"?

Besides, if Hillary's belief that Obama can't beat McCain is truly sincere, then she must also believe that her chances of beating him aren't that much better.

:headbang:
rocknation

[jackson_dem]

34. Does Obama think Clinton is less electable because of sexism?

:eyes:

[mjjacobs]

35. OK, I'll bite. How would she view the situation, as it is today, if

he was white? You obviously have an opinion in this regard.

[aldeeman]

37. The GE is a different game

Republicans will REALLY use the race card. Not like Hillary's statements that are taken by Obama supporters and converted in manufactured race attacks. I'm talking about REAL hate.

[smalll]

39. Not because he's black. Because he's a satellite of the Wright/Obamarosa axis.

When your 20-year mentor/pastor and your own wife are racial separatists, you don't have much wiggle room.

[kevinmc]

40. "Hillary Clinton is winning and Obama has been soundly defeated"

"Oh..... and Death to the Infidels"

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[BzaDem]

42. Demographics and math, not race.

Both may very well do equally well against McCain in the popular vote in the GE. The problem is the Electoral College. His votes in the GE will come from states that he either wins big or loses big. Clinton doesn't win as many states big, but she makes up for it by narrowly winning PA, OH, and maybe FL. Unfortunately, with the EC, the demographics favor Clinton to win narrowly in the states we need to win, and disfavor Obama in those states.