Does Hillary Clinton support gay MARRIAGE? Simple question. It seems like there are those who

[GarbagemanLB]

take issue with Obama's stance that marriage rights and civil union rights should be equal (which is totally respectable and understandable given the current political climate). What issue is there, then, with his position? Any link that proves Hillary is any different than Obama?

[slinkerwink]

1. she has the same position as obama

[Justitia]

2. No, she doesn't. She also doesn't support a full repeal of DOMA, unlike Obama, who does. -eom

[davidinalameda]

3. thank you!

I'm glad that I'm not the only one on this board that knows this

but try telling that to the Hillbots and they'll only bring up McClurkin while ignoring the fact that HER husband signed not only DOMA but DADT during her time of "experience"

[libnnc]

4. !

:thumbsup:

[GarbagemanLB]

6. Clearly you don't understand. Hillary only takes credit for the GOOD things, and can't take blame fo

r the bad under Bill's administration.

[davidinalameda]

8. thank you

I think you are exactly right!

[dsc]

5. What we have a problem with

is people claiming he does when he doesn't. Most of us who actually care about this issue know full well what each candidate's position is. Frankly, we also know that there is no way gay marriage or federal civil unions are going to pass in 4 or 8 years. I know you all don't want to hear this, but our problems with Obama are to do with his actions, not some delusion about Hillary.

On edit, do you have any idea how insulting posts like these are? We do do our homework.

[davidinalameda]

9. who is this WE

and if you find these posts so insulting, don't read them

and you and yours choose to ignore what Obama has done to support the GLBT community while Hill has marched in parades!

wow!

do you have any idea how insulting you hill sycophants are?

[dsc]

10. I don't ignore what Obama did

which is what your problem is. I know in your delusional world we are all Hillary worshiping racists who burn crosses in our yards out of our hatred for Obama. But the fact is Obama chose to use McClurkin, Obama chose to lie about having done it, Obama chose to associate with yet another homophobic minister who petitions against us. He did those things. Not Hillary, not the bogey man, he did it. If Hillary dropped out tomorrow, he still would have done it. That is the problem he has. Coupled with a public record as short as his is, it is a very disturbing pattern.

On edit we = gay and lesbian supporters of Hillary.

[davidinalameda]

17. ignore?

oh my goodness

maybe I just believe Obama when he has said TIME AND TIME AGAIN that he doesn't share McClurkin's views

and Hill doesn't have her own homophobic supporters?

google is your friend

"WE" might want take a look at exactly where your candidate stands on issues

I just pray that she's not the nominee because it's been shown that the Clintons will sell anyone down the river for a few votes

[dsc]

20. and then we find out about yet another pastor

and I presume another and another and another. Incidently when has Obama discussed if he agrees with Meeks? I hope you are right about Obama but you have zero evidence to back you up. He has run an overtly religious campaign and with one singular exception (pastor Wright) all of his religious advisors have turned out to be homophobes. That is worrisome to me. I have seen this pattern before and it isn't pretty.

[rAVES]

21. 'Royal' we I assume, yea?

[rodeodance]

7. Do some reseach on your own--like her website.

[Alexander]

12. Maybe her website doesn't say anything about the issue.

Ever think of that?

No, of course not.

[rodeodance]

15. you are wearing me out.

[IndianaJones]

11. Obama: religious traditions behind my objection to gay marriage. nt.

[BklynChick]

13. both of them are against gay marriage, which pisses me off

[ZombieHorde]

14. They both suck on this issue.

Kucinich was the candidate for such matters, we got rid of him.

[crankychatter]

16. I know at least once she opposed the full repeal of DOMA

but tha'z all I know

[davidinalameda]

18. she still does

no matter what Bill says on the campaign trail

her campaign spokesperson had to correct him

[readmoreoften]

19. Because both suck, I guess we don't have the right to say who we think sucks worse.

What the fuck do you care about gay rights anyway? You've been positively obnoxious about it other threads.