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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:19 PM
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So will Hillary Clinton's claim that Obama can't be elected help or hurt her in upcoming primaries?
And here's an article detailing what she said. This is the most blatant use of the race card by her campaign yet, but that's all I'll say for now. The question is: Will this scurry worried primary voters into her camp so that they can feel safe? Or will it turn them off of her and create a bounce for Obama?

ABC News' George Stephanopoulos Reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and former President Bill Clinton are making very direct arguments to Democratic superdelegates, starkly insisting Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., cannot win a general election against presumptive Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

Sources with direct knowledge of the conversation between Sen. Clinton and Gov. Bill Richardson, D-N.M., prior to the Governor's endorsement of Obama say she told him flatly, "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win."

Richardson, who served in President Clinton's cabinet, disagreed.

At a rally in Oregon, standing next to Obama, Richardson insisted, "My great affection and admiration for Hillary Clinton and President Bill Clinton will never waver." But he added, "It is time, however, for Democrats to stop fighting among ourselves and to prepare for the tough fight we will face against John McCain in the fall."

WATCH GEORGE'S FULL WORLD NEWS REPORT BY CLICKING HERE.

A report in the San Francisco Chronicle detailed another explosive exchange in which the former president angrily objected to Richardson's endorsement.

"Five times to my face said that he would never do that," Clinton said, according to the Chronicle -- before, the newspaper reports, he "went on a tirade that ran from the media's unfair treatment of Hillary to questions about the fairness of the votes in state caucuses that voted for Obama. It ended with him asking delegates to imagine what the reaction would be if Obama was trailing by just 1 percent and people were telling him to drop out."

Another, neutral superdelegate who was in the room for that meeting called the Chronicle's take "a bit exaggerated." But there is no question the Clintons are passionately arguing their case against Obama in what is fast becoming an intense race not just for the votes of the public but of the Democratic elite known as superdelegates.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:21 PM
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1. If only Hill & Bill can convince the SDs ...
... that bowling counts, she might still have a prayer.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:27 PM
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5. Let's all hope for our sake and the sake of the country that
she wins. This is not the time for another pres. in training.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:00 PM
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9. Yeah, she's got all that "Bosnia" experience ...
... to bring to the table. At least she knows how to duck sniper-fire - even when it's not there.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:23 PM
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2. This is not about the nomination. It is about the GE.
I do not believe Obama can win the GE.
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:25 PM
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4. He can win
By holding all of the democratic 2000 and 2004 states and winning Iowa, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Ohio and/or Virginia.

Florida is not needed due to Obama's strength in the west.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:38 PM
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7. Then we are screwn....Hillary can't either! Her negatives are way too high
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:25 PM
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3. it makes her look like a crybaby
pretty soon I expect her numbers to fall (even more)
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:31 PM
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6. It makes her look bad
? for Hillary

So why can't you beat a sure loser than?
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:44 PM
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8. Maybe you *think* Clinton used the race card
but without anything to substantiate your claim, what is it really?

I would say it's projection, and provide tangible proof:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html#postComment
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:02 PM
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10. They did. And Obama played the "race card card"
Again these are two very different things.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:03 PM
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11. Well, since it just further exposes her for the liar she is, I'd say it will hurt her.
People are getting very sick of her b.s.
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