Obama failing to mend ties with rest of world

[2rth2pwr]

Colombia's President Criticizes Obama

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g0QWd0hI_BMCPs0zeVkg0oenx6RAD8VQ2HJO0

BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) — Colombia's president sharply criticized U.S. presidential contender Barack Obama on Wednesday for opposing a trade deal with his country, calling the Democrat out of touch with the realities of the South American nation.

The White House is urging Congress to approve the agreement, which would remove most tariffs on American exports and cement Colombia's preferential trade status with the United States.

But Illinois Sen. Obama said Wednesday he would oppose the deal.

"I deplore the fact that Senator Obama, aspiring to be president of the United States, should be unaware of Colombia's efforts," President Alvaro Uribe said in a statement. "I think it is for political calculations that he is making a statement that does not correspond to Colombia's reality."


Obama continues to piss off the world as he touts his Unity skills.

[cliffordu]

1. Obama blamed for Lenin still being dead....

[Tellurian]

107. Oh, No! The evil dictators don't want a sit down with Obama?

Must be his gutter balls:

[DarienComp]

2. So you're on Bush's side, huh.

The White House is urging Congress to approve the agreement ...

[kwenu]

22. Double post.

[Warren Stupidity]

3. Obama promised me a pony! Where is it?

[Symarip]

18. Tell me about it.

If he gets the nomination, we need to start a 527:

Promised Pony Voters

[quakerboy]

23. Hold your horses, damit.

[anonymous171]

4. Whoah, a foreign country protecting its economic interests.

AMERICA first.

[readmoreoften]

5. Okay I don't like Obama, but this is positive, not negative. Uribe is a fascist asshole.

Uribe is a conservative scumbag.

[2rth2pwr]

13. I thought he would be able to reach out and make warm and fuzzies.

[anonymous171]

20. We're already hand-in-hand with that guy.

[readmoreoften]

46. Yeah no shit. I don't want our government touching Uribe's hands.

Unfortunately, we're probably guiding Uribe's hands.

[FrenchieCat]

6. Well Geeze......

Why didn't you say so before?

When President Bush was in Colombia, he showed confidence in President Alvaro Uribe, who is mired in the most serious political crisis of his six years in office. So far, eight congressmen, all tied to the president, have been jailed for working with right-wing death squads.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8959516

[JVS]

7. Did he call any world leaders soulless yet?

[SemiCharmedQuark]

8. So Clinton supports the trade deal?

[2rth2pwr]

12. Who knows. Obama said he would reach out to our friends and the "enemies"

He causes riots in Pakistan then Uribe is spun.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

16. reaching out does not equate to carte blanche for rightwing assholes

Do you understand that statement?

[2rth2pwr]

24. So, he wants to reach out to Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong-il, but he won't

start a respectful dialogue with our neighbors?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

30. um, No.

He won't support a bad trade deal.

I get it now. This is going to be one of those "conversations" where you either keep acting dense, or show that it's not an act after all and remove all doubt.

Either way, I think we're done here. And remember, a death squad a day keeps the liberals away.

[Forkboy]

37. Definitely not an act. This is the real deal.

:)

[2rth2pwr]

38. He doesn't have to support the deal, that's the point. He promised us ponies and

world unity, where is the evidence he can unite anything?

[kmsarvis]

77. ARE YOU FORGETTING..........

HE IS'NT OUR PRESIDENT YET. HE IS CURRENTLY CAMPAIGNING FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY. DO EXPECT HIM TO DROP WHAT HE IS DOING AND FLY TO COLOMBIA?

[karynnj]

102. No spin - he said he was against a trade deal that is NOT good

When HRC voted (as did Obama) for the Peru deal, she at that time said she was against the Columbia deal - though I don't know if the deal itself has changed since then - but a large part of the reason was Uribe.

[walldude]

110. He said he would reach out, not lick their ass

Gee a Democrat is against a neo-con policy and you use it against him. I'll ask you again, why are you on a Democratic board? You espouse republican policies to flame a democratic candidate? Do you think you are going to turn people onto Hillary by supporting Bush foreign policies. I feel bad for Hillary, she needs better than this.

[Hugabear]

What's wrong with that?

First of all, I would hope that Obama would oppose even more of these "trade deals" that have been killing our economy.

Secondly, Colombia? Are you talking about the same right-wing government that Bush loves, the one that's been causing trouble with its neighbors Ecuador and Venezuela?

[2rth2pwr]

41. He shouldn't support the deal.

I thought he had the ability to raise the dialogue, to enact a new kind of politics.

All this after we get our ponies.


Edited to remove personal insult, sorry.

[Elidor]

81. You're straining at gnats

And pretending this is somehow important to you. But you're not very convincing.

[EnviroBat]

106. Exactly! Thank you...

This is more of the Rev. Wright BS, but now it's wrapped in trade deals clothing. Anything to attempt to make Barack look like the "bad guy". It's pathetic.

[bhikkhu]

9. Uribe belongs in prison.

And our ties with Columbia could stand to be looser, rather than tighter.

[JeffR]

10. OMG. Obama opposed by president of Colombia!!11

Sounds like this Obama feller's bad news. Thanks for the heads-up.

[Blondiegrrl]

19. Apparently "one country" constitutes "the entire world." n/t

[JeffR]

27. Yes.

But only because I think they have a little oil. Oh, and because the person who started this thread is a total horse's ass...

[2rth2pwr]

40. see: Pakistan

[anonymous171]

49. I'll see your Pakistan and raise you a "Soulless" Putin.

Talk about gaffes.

[2rth2pwr]

56. What the hell does Putin have to do with anything?

We're talking Obama here. The One.

He promised us change. Change we can believe in. The we of the we are the ones we have been waiting for.

Because tomorrow is the future, and the future is hope. Without hope we can do nothing, but if we rise together, rise in unity we can change the world.

(and everyone gets a pony)

[anonymous171]

57. leave you copied replies at home or gb2hillaryis44

[2rth2pwr]

63. Stay on point and stop with the personal attacks, you are an Obama supporter.

Can't you act like he would want you to?

[anonymous171]

66. Can't you stop copy pasting replies and spamming the board?

That's why you're sore. You thought that Obama would be a pushover. :rofl: Boy were you wrong.

[JoFerret]

95. How dare someone post

something critical or questioning about Obama. that is NOT allowed. I'm with YOU. How dare THEY.

[2rth2pwr]

65. see: Canada

[DisgustipatedinCA]

11. Do you really want to go there?

Yeah, I guess you do.

Uribe is a filthy Bush-connected piece of shit trying to do Bush's will with another NAFTA-style screw-the-poor while diverting money to the already-wealthy. Truth to power? Is it opposite day or something?

[Webster Green]

14. Fuck the president of Columbia!

He's a fascist asshole.

How 'bout you? what's your fucking trip?:eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

21. Perhaps one of those uneducated Clinton voters?

or one of those Repugs only faking Dem registration till after the primary to vote for Hillary? :shrug:

[2rth2pwr]

28. So, he wants to reach out to Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong-il, but he won't

attempt a respectful dialogue with our neighbors?

[anonymous171]

33. This isn't about dialogue. It's about a senator and a trade deal.

Nice attempt and deflection.

[FrenchieCat]

34. Is Obama President yet?

He'll talk, not kiss ass.

It is Uribe talking shit about Obama as a favor to Bush, McCain and Clinton.

[2rth2pwr]

43. Wait a minute, I thought you had me on ignore.

[FrenchieCat]

48. You think like.....

[2rth2pwr]

52. You said I was on ignore and you kept reading my posts? Creepy.

[cliffordu]

39. Ah, more specious bullshit

by my favorite marginally cognizent....
:hurts:

duMP'r


:hi:

[2rth2pwr]

42. Care to address the point?

[cliffordu]

58. You don't have a point here, really....

Just more circular thinking, race baiting, flamebait, waiting for that pizza with xtra cheeze to be delivered......

[2rth2pwr]

70. You've been here since Feb and you say I should get the boot?

[cliffordu]

78. Nope, just the half-truths dressed up as insight, the circular arguments,

the partisan footstomping...that's the "here" I was referring to.

You can crap anyplace you want to as far as I'm concerned....


:hurts:

How fucking shallow do you have to be to think because you've been hanging around here longer that your insight, wisdom, wit, handsomeness or whatever is above anyone?

Your post is specious bullshit. Period. Go read the entire transcript of that statement you are basing your bogus posit on and read it.

[Mooney]

15. Obama would have, like, totally been a dick to Ceausescu.

And he would have been totally uncool to Baby Doc Duvalier.

[Forkboy]

29. LOL...the OP is fucking hilarious without even knowing it.

:)

[Mooney]

45. I think the OP is just precious.

[BlueIdaho]

17. Boy!

Its a good thing Alvaro Uribe isn't superdelegate huh?!?

[FrenchieCat]

31. He's a Bush Delegate. Doncha know?

‘No Trade Deal With a Corrupt Regime’

Colombia is the most dangerous country in the world for trade unionists. Nearly 2,300 union leaders and members have been murdered there since 1991 and the government routinely ignores or violates internationally recognized workers’ rights.

Last year alone, 72 trade unionists were murdered in Colombia. Yet the Bush administration continues to push for a trade deal with that country.

Colombian President Alvaro Uribe found out today that U.S. working families will not tolerate their country making deals with a corrupt regime. Uribe was met with strong opposition to the Colombia Free Trade Agreement (FTA) from protesters, activists and union leaders as he traveled across Washington, D.C., trying to sell the deal.

The Bush administration submitted the deal to Congress in time to be considered under its Fast Track trade-promotion authority, which expires June 30. But workers in both countries say the deal with Colombia should be renegotiated because it will hurt workers and push back efforts to bring an end to the violence against union leaders and ordinary citizens.

Outside the Center for American Progress near the White House, where Uribe held a press conference today, nearly 100 demonstrators marched, carrying signs saying “Just Say No to FTA” and “Colombia: Frightening Terrorist Agreement.”

Nine demonstrators laid on the sidewalk in body bags to dramatize the violence against innocent people in Colombia.

Bob Baugh, director of the AFL-CIO Industrial Union Council, told the crowd, “This is a rotten deal.”
http://blog.aflcio.org/2007/05/02/no-trade-deal-with-a-corrupt-regime

[kwenu]

25. Uribe is a Bush lackey.

[Forkboy]

26. LMFAO...so you're a big Uribe fan like Bush are you?

You and Bush...like peas in a pod.







:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[2rth2pwr]

32. Obama promised us ponies, and world unity.

He wants to reach out to Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong-il, but he won't start a respectful dialogue with our neighbors south of the border?

[Forkboy]

35. LMFAO.....you're awesome.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[SeattleGirl]

36. Uh, Bush should be trying to do that right now. Oh wait.

My bad! :rofl:

Seriously, though, he's still running for the nom, just as Clinton is. What would you have him do? Head to Columbia and start acting like he already has the white house? Sorry, but as much as I think that's a good idea, it's not his role right now. Nor is it Clinton's or McCain's.

[2rth2pwr]

47. This is the foot you want Obama to start off with? With one of our neighbors?

He promised us change. Change we can believe in. The we of the we are the ones we have been waiting for.

Because tomorrow is the future, and the future is hope. Without hope we can do nothing, but if we rise together, rise in unity we can change the world.

(and everyone gets a pony)

[anonymous171]

51. Hillary: Don't get you're hopes up.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

54. There comes a point in life where you have to ask yourself:

Was huffing all of the gasoline really worth it? I'm sure the high is good...well, compared to fermented raisin wine in prison or something similar, but was it worth it in the final analysis?

Please do tell: what should Obama's stance have been on this one? Should he have pledged to support this trade bill? Should he have secured himself a place next to the lectern in the Rose Room so he could applaud while Bush signed this into law? You tell me, discombobulation2power, how should Obama have handled this?

[Name removed]

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[2rth2pwr]

61. He doesn't have to support it, in fact he shouldn't support it.

But he promised a new kind of politics, a new way of reaching out.

Of reaching out to even those that we may disagree with, like Kim Jong-il and Ahmadinejad.

The politics of Hope and Unity of new starts and new beginnings.

(and sweet little ponies)

[anonymous171]

62. It's the unity of AMERICA, not the world.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

64. Yes, Pony Boy, you've mentioned that a few times now

But the question is, what would YOU have recommended Obama do on this narrow issue that has come up?

[2rth2pwr]

67. You didn't read my post.

[SeattleGirl]

59. I wasn't knocking Obama.

I'm just saying that he is not currently in a position to actually DO something about this like an actual President would (I do not include pResident MonkeyBoy in that).

That's all.

[ima_sinnic]

103. NOT doing business with Uribe would be change--DUH!!

why do you keep copying and pasting your own bullshit? how many times have you spammed your own thread with this same post?

BUT THANKS FOR GIVING THE OBAMITES ANOTHER CHANCE TO REMIND EVERYONE:
under President Obama, "trade deals" with fascist right-wing death-squad sponsors will be a thing of the past. Unlike repuke administrations, which have funded and armed them by selling cocaine in secret drug deals, or a hillary administration that--who knows?

[Danger Mouse]

44. Anything to smear Obama, huh? Even holding up a right wing asshole?

How sickening. A new low from you.

[2rth2pwr]

50. He shouldn't support the deal, but can't he get along with our neighbors?

To somehow raise the dialog?



He promised us change. Change we can believe in. The we of the we are the ones we have been waiting for.

Because tomorrow is the future, and the future is hope. Without hope we can do nothing, but if we rise together, rise in unity we can change the world.

(and everyone gets a pony)

Edited to remove personal insult.

[Danger Mouse]

55. Your posts consistently have a nasty and insulting tone...

and when given valid answers you don't accept them because you are already predisposed to hating Obama. Nothing any Obama supporter says will change that.
Therefore, why should I bother? Anything I say will just be met with a snarky tone, a dismissal, and the like.
You're not interested in dialogue, you're interested in smearing.

[2rth2pwr]

68. Whoa, back up and read what you wrote in your original response.

Does that sound like a pleasant way to greet somebody?

[Forkboy]

69. "Stay on point and stop with the personal attacks, you are an Hillary supporter."

"Can't you act like she would want you to?"

:rofl:

[2rth2pwr]

71. That wasn't your best.

Too derivative.

[Forkboy]

73. And yet it's better than anything you've offered up.

I know it hurts when someone points out your hypocrisy. :hi:

[2rth2pwr]

75. Hillary never promised unity, or a new kind of politics.

What hypocrisy?

[Forkboy]

79. Your's...not her's.

You know, you complaining about personal insults and then telling someone, "Don't be an idiot."

I'm sure even you can get that. It's basic enough for first graders, and I giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're at least a second grader.

[2rth2pwr]

82. I was responding in kind.

The complaint I have is personal insults without addressing a topic or an issue.

[johnnydrama]

85. you equate

You equate unity with backing a bad trade policy, how stupid.

[2rth2pwr]

89. Where?

[Forkboy]

86. LOL

[meow mix]

53. Bosnia

:blush:

[Oilwellian]

72. Your post makes no sense

opposing a trade deal with Columbia is "the world?" Such drama.

I'm actually glad to see Obama skeptical of any trade deals with Columbia. Thanks for letting us know!

:rofl:

[maspethboy]

74. Why Uribe is mad

Obama wants to meet unconditionally with leaders such as Hugo Chavez, who is Colombia's nemesis. That's the reason.

[billyoc]

76. There goes the right wing death squad endorsement. nt

[Forkboy]

80. LOL

:applause:

[myrna minx]

83. LOL!

:spray:

[FrenchieCat]

84. Awe man!

[SemiCharmedQuark]

87. LOL!

:thumbsup:

[JVS]

92. Laugh now, but that demographic has proven itself critical in so many elections and other...

leadership disputes that alienating them is a BIG mistake ;-)

[billyoc]

93. haha! "You're missing the point, we ARE the right wing death squads".

with apologies to Marlon Brando. :rofl:

[SemiCharmedQuark]

104. I can't wait until those endorsements come out!

[Symarip]

88. Maybe I'm crazy

But aren't trade deals what wiped out what was left of our manufacturing industry? One that starts with a 'N' seems to come to mind...

[TML]

90. LOL!

What satire. The only things we trade with Colombia are the two C's: coffee and cocaine.

[Tatiana]

91. Study some world history (South American in particular) and get back to us.

Seriously? As others have indicated, Uribe is a Bush-backed, right-wing fascist asshole. And that's the kindest thing that can be said of him. His days are numbered because the other left-leaning presidents in the region are getting quite sick of him as well as his own people.

Ever face death squads and unidentified state-sponsored militias? Do we REALLY want to be liked by the sponsors of such things?

I, for one, can't wait until Obama takes office and puts an end to Uribe's American welfare also known as Plan Colombia.

[MrSlayer]

94. The President of fucking Columbia criticizes Obama.

Makes perfect sense.

[InsultComicDog]

96. "Obama failing to mend ties with rest of world"

Great headline...

How about

"Obama failing to stop world hunger"
"Obama failing to cure cancer"
"Obama failing to win 'Dancing With The Stars'"

[HughBeaumont]

97. Well, this was productive.

[eridani]

98. Uribe is a fascist thug

His dislike of Obama is a good thing.

[Vinca]

99. Wow - Obama can't catch a break. Either oppose a trade agreement

to try and preserve an American job or two or piss off the Columbian president. I'm voting for American jobs.

[LaurenG]

100. Obama did not help me pay my bills this month!

WTH :nuke:

[karynnj]

101. Do you know who Uribe is?

Do you know why all Democrats that I have heard of have problems with this? Please research Colmubia and the drug trade.

[Danger Mouse]

105. Yes, she does, and she doesn't care.

[Forkboy]

108. PRO URIBE KICK!!!!!

:kick:

[atal]

109. Obama is NOT yet the President of the United States

to have the ability to mend ties with the rest of the world.

[snooper2]

111. you just made yourself...

look a little more ignorant with this post :rofl:

If that is even possible...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: