Richardson: I never promised Clintons

[Forkboy]

(CNN) – New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson on Wednesday sharply disputed Bill Clinton's reported claim that Richardson promised to endorse Hillary Clinton's bid for the White House.

"I never did," Richardson said. "I never saw five times. I saw him when he watched the Super Bowl with me. We made it very clear to him that he shouldn't expect an endorsement after that meeting."

Bill Clinton's comments reportedly came during a recent meeting with some California superdelegates. The San Francisco Chronicle reported the former president got "red faced" when the subject of Richardson came up and said, "Five times to my face (Richardson) said that he would never do that."

In the interview Wednesday, Richardson acknowledged he was "very close to endorsing" Clinton, but decided not to after the campaign got "nasty."

"I held back. I waited. I felt the campaign got nasty. I heard Senator Obama; he would talk to me continuously," Richardson said.

"The Clintons should get over this," he added.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/02/richardson-i-never-promised-clintons/

[leftofcool]

1. Bill Richardson bucking for an Obama VP spot

[DemVet]

17. Obviously, if he....

...already wasn't promised it by Barry.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. He'd make a damn good one.

[DemVet]

40. Yeah, but...

...I hate to bring this up, it's kind of despicable to think about the negative side of this, but I don't know how having two "minority" candidates would play in white, Wonderbread America.

[book_worm]

62. you know all about dispicable.

You say he may have been promised the VP by "Barry" and then you play the race card again.

[tekisui]

49. Looks like the Clinton's weren't willing to repay expected Richardson loyalty

with loyalty to him.

[Lucky 13]

72. No... just defending himself from the Clinton slander machine.

[Texas Hill Country]

83. absolutely. and i think that convo totally took place

[dailykoff]

2. Methinks the Clintons are fibbers.

Gee, who knew?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

28. The Clintons are liars? I'm shocked!

[polpilot]

53. Bubba: (pointing, red-faced, trembling...'He promised me...HE PROMISED ME 5 GAZILLION TIMES...AWGGG'

[Catherina]

67. It's a vast Left-Wing conspiracy this time

:rofl:

[FlyingSquirrel]

3. Uh oh, Eagles songzzz

Get over it
Get over it

All this ... um... something, and fussing, and pitchin' a fit

Get over it!

:D

[HCE SuiGeneris]

4. I never promised you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obSeYqcdt2I&feature=related

[Eric Condon]

5. "The Clintons should get over this."

That is THE statement of this primary season. Not just about the Richardson endorsement, either.

[saracat]

6. Really this endorsement diminishes Richardson far more than it enhances Obama.

Richardson doesn't deserve the attention he is getting. His endorsement isn't worth that much.

[Bicoastal]

8. Now, now. He's well liked by NM, those who voted for him, AND...

...most HRC supporters, way back before last week.

It's sad that your opinion of him is so awfully diminished by his utter nerve to endorse a Democrat other than your favorite.

[Alexander]

10. Saracat's just mad that Obama took Edwards' place as the liberal alternative to Hillary.

Don't let her sour grapes get to you.

[cornermouse]

25. Obama's not liberal.

[stevietheman]

66. He's actually rated the most liberal in the Senate. n/t

n/t

[cornermouse]

89. No. He rated the best at posing as a liberal in the Senate.

He is the best at positioning himself as a liberal without actually committing to liberal causes. He is not a liberal.

[Cha]

114. And boy does she

have them.

[Forkboy]

11. Well, if the Clinton's didn't lie about him I'm sure he'd be a memory by now.

No endorsements are worth much...except the ones for your choice, I'm sure.

[goldcanyonaz]

19. Very true, and he really seems to like the spotlight. You'd think he would stop, but he can't.

[JVS]

27. Are you talking about Bill Clinton or Bill Richardson?

[Rene]

20. You're right....Richardson is already a loser...very few votes. Noone wants him in office.

[sellitman]

32. Nonesense.

This was a dagger blow. This guy had every reason in the world to pick Hillary. The only 2 bigger endorsements will be Edwards and Gore. You are in denial.

[JTFrog]

36. Richardson doesn't count. Small states don't count. Caucuses don't count....

waa-waa whaa-whaa


Anyone else starting to hear Charlie Brown's teacher when someone goes off about how irrelevant anyone but Clinton and her surrogates are?

[Catherina]

69. Little people don't count n/t

[MadHound]

48. Yeah, his endorsement doesn't count right?

Just like all those states that swung in Obama's favor, and all those other super delegates and endorsements don't count either.

This same sad song coming from Clinton supporters is getting tired, trite and worn out. Let me guess, when he gets the Democratic nomination, that won't count either:eyes:

[FlyingSquirrel]

7. No wait... not Eagles

I beg your pardon.....

I never promised you the Rose Garden.............


:evilgrin:

[Apollo11]

9. Richardson is a bandwagon jumper. Just like Chris Dodd.

They see themselves as potential Vice-President material, and with this goal in mind it is in their own selfish interest to publicy endorse the candidate they think is most likely to win the nomination.

I don't think anyone is going to base their vote on these so-called high-profile endorsements.

[gateley]

12. Same with Kennedy?

Do you think he's angling for the VP slot, too? :eyes:

[Apollo11]

24. Ted Kennedy over-reacted to Hillary's positive comments about LBJ

He thought the Clintons were disrespecting the legacy of JFK.

[Nedsdag]

68. No.

He was reacting to Hillary's claims regarding S-CHIP saying she helped put it together when it was Ted Kennedy who was responsible for it.

[kmsarvis]

100. OR JIMMY CARTER???

WHO HAS HINTED THAT HE IS LIKELY TO ENDORSE OBAMA.

[totodeinhere]

50. In that case why did the Clintons lobby so hard for all of them not to endorse Obama?

[Apollo11]

52. Because so-called high-profile endorsements make a difference to the media.

Just look at how much media attention was given to Ted and Caroline Kennedy's endorsement of Barack Obama.

In the end, it did not help Obama win Massachusetts or California. But it kept Obama in the news for 48 hours.

[gateley]

13. How very mature.

"The San Francisco Chronicle reported the former president got "red faced" when the subject of Richardson came up and said,"

I saw Clinton become vicious tearing into a camera crew that kept filming after he thought they'd stopped. Unbeknownst to him, another crew was STILL filming.

The difference in that man on and off camera was jaw-dropping.

I never liked him since I saw that (he was Prez at the time).

Richardson's right -- they just gotta get over this. Entitlement.

[ForeignSpectator]

14. "The clintons should get over this"... that's perfect!

Last time I heard someone should "get over" something, it involved a kicking and screaming teenager...

:rofl:

[LaurenG]

15. Bill Clinton went to Cali to threaten super delegates

and then said bad things about Bill Richardson. I have long wondered what was up with the Clinton's, it looks like they are practicing last century politics.

Threaten and cajole, the mantra of the Clinton's. :eyes:

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. Rove must be very proud of his students.

[cboy4]

16. I'm almost feeling sorry for Mr. Richardson now ....

the guilt is clearly consuming him.

Here's a man who owes everything -- and I mean everything -- to the Clintons, and he turned his back on them because he panicked.

He panicked because he believes Obama will be the nominee, and he desperately wants another job with an administration .. so he had no more use for Hillary and dumped her.

Poor guy. He's going to have a lot of trouble sleeping knowing he gave the proverbial finger to the people who helped build is resume -- when in fact, he should be on his hands and knees thanking them.

He'd be a nobody.

[cali]

21. seriously, why do you think "he owes everything" to the Clintons?

I find that such a curious way of thinking. Are you suggesting that everyone who Bill Clinton named to his cabinet or to a high post in his administration owes him fealty in perpetuity? Bill Richardson was a 7 term Representative when Clinton tapped him for UN Ambassador. Presumably, Richardson served to Clinton's satisfaction as he subsequently named him as Energy Secretary. And presumably Richardson served capably in that position. When he left that position, he owed Bill Clinton the courtesy, I believe, of not speaking ill of him, something he's never done. It's beyond bizarre to insist, as YOU are that he owes him "everything". You seem to have a sadly feudal outlook on life. But even if it were true that he owed Bill Clinton something, why on earth would you think that he owes Hillary Clinton anything??? Did she hire him? No. And how come you weren't throwing a similar fit over his daring to run against her for the nomination. Please explain why that's just fine and dandy but his endorsing Obama over Hilly is an act of treachery?

Your post is repulsive. Sick, really. "He should be on his hands and knees thanking them"???? Wow. "He'd be a nobody". Er, try again, genius. A Seven term Representative in the House, is not a nobody, and would have been a large enough springboard for him to run for Governor. Others have certainly done that successfully.

[cboy4]

33. Cali, Cali. -- Practically every last word out of Richardson's

mouth during the debates was something about diplomacy.

I've been here, I've been there, I've dealt with this person, I've dealt with that person.

What else did he talk about in between all of his rambling?

Nada.

I actually think his resume should be cut in the shape of a "C" for Clinton.

That's how much he owes them.

Now I know you're irate with me for hammering Richardson so fiercely -- but he deserves it for being a disloyal, backstabbing "oh, homosexuality is a choice" ingrate.

Repulsive? Sick?

Yes, perfect adjectives to describe Mr. Richardson who is once again depending on someone else to hook him up with a dream job.

And he should be endorsing Hillary because he owes her husband everything.

[cali]

44. Yes, he got experience as Clinton's ambassador and a cabinet member

And he owed Clinton loyalty WHILE he was in his employ. NOT beyond. And it is sick and reflective of a feudal mentality to insist that Hilly is owed his endorsement because he was in Bill's cabinet. Either Hills is running on her own or not. According to you it's not; she's running on Bill's coattails in your book. How sad.

[LaurenG]

46. You can't possibly be serious

You want him to back someone who he doesn't believe in because he "owes" them.

What about doing the right thing or standing on his own principles. What did he find out about the Clinton's and what did we learn about Bill Richardson?

Bill Richardson just said NO to being bullied into doing something that he felt was wrong. You know when top people in the cabinet start to turn there is inside info that we don't have.

:shrug:

[cboy4]

51. If I didn't believe Richardson is in this simply for a job, I'd

be more apt to accept he's backing Obama because he feels he's the better choice.

Or that something happened with the Clinton Camp.

However, I don't believe any of that.

Sorry. I just don't.

[CTLawGuy]

54. you are blinded by your irrational hate of Obama

sad...

[Debi]

99. The Clinton's got him elected to the US Congress in 1983? really?

I think he had a pretty good record BEFORE Bill Clinton came along.

[Rene]

18. Richardson's an lying opportunist. he has his own hide in mind...cushy position promise like VP

New Mexico voted for Clinton. Where's his so called loyalty to the voters of that state.

[cali]

22. New Mexico went for Clinton by less than 1%

And Richardson already has a "cushy" job. And if you're going to pull the stupid shit about SDs going with the will of the voters of the state they hail from, than Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray are clearly disloyal and treacherous- Washington went for Obama. Educate yourself, dear. SDs are free to back whoever they want. I've said that repeatedly to both Obama and Clinton supporters. Richardson has said why he endorsed Obama. I'll believe him over Bill Clinton anyday. Unlike Clinton, he's not a repeated serial liar, who lied to his wife, his friends and the country.

[indimuse]

37. yeah...

With Obama's logic about the SD's...Richardson..Kennedy and Kerry belong to Hillary.

[JAbuchan08]

56. If we followed the Obama camps logic on SD's

your point would be a moot one because he would be leading Hillary in endorsements.

the only category of delegates that Hillary leads is that of unelected party insiders, put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[juajen]

23. Yeah, I just bet Obama, if selected, and elected, would put a judas

in as his VP. Why in Hell would Bill lie about this? He has seen other original supporters change from Hill to Obama, and never claimed what he claimed from Richardson. I'm sure he will not be Obama's VP choice, if Obama gets to choose one.

[cali]

30. Bill Clinton is a proven liar. period. don't even try to dispute that

And if Obama wins the nomination, he wins it fair and square. shove your selected crap back up where you pulled it from. Hillbots are disgusting the way they throw good dems under the bus. You know what I say when Hilly gets an endorsement? Congratulations. It's pathetic that you all smear Richardson, Caroline Schlossberg, Teddy Kennedy, John Kerry, Pat Leahy and dozens more. In fact, it's despicable.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. Smearing a good man like BR is the last straw for me.

[JTFrog]

42. Did you honestly just say "Why would Bill lie"? It depends on the meaning of "is" I guess.

I'd call the Clintons pathological liars, but they do it fully conscious of their intent.

:eyes:
:eyes:
:eyes:

[dionysus]

64. you're actually running with the judas thing? do you guys realize how stupid you look?

do you even care?

[bklyncowgirl]

26. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Who has the credibility problem

Unless you were listening in on the famous Super Bowl party conversation, as Bill R. reassured Bill C. over the guacamole dip and brewskis you have no way of knowing who's telling the truth here.

It comes down to who you believe. One of the men is a noted diplomatic troubleshooter, a guy who's known for being able to go into tense situations and gain the trust of all sides. The other is a greatly talented but deeply flawed leader who's legacy has been stained by a series of statements that were not only misleading but were often outright provable lies.

[Debi]

101. I was actually thinking about the perjury charge and loss of his license to practice law

because of it. It's not just in the court of public opinion that the guy's been convicted of lying.

[my3boyz]

35. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

who should I believe....Richardson....Clinton.....Richardson....Clinton?????????? I think I will go with Richardson since Clinton is a proven red-faced, finger wagging liar!

[cboy4]

38. Hey may not have promised the Clintons -- if that's what

you want to believe.

But nobody can deny he hasn't the slightest idea what the word loyalty means.

Total backstabber extraordinaire.

[JAbuchan08]

57. loyalty is a contract written in blood apparently

[kmsarvis]

106. DID YOU USE TO HANG OUT.........

WITH THEM OR SOMETHING? DO YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP THE REST OF US DONT?

[Recursion]

111. From the looks of it, you sadly misunderstand what loyalty is (nt)

[pompano]

39. It is sorta funny...I suppose...

Hopefully when this primary is over we can all sit back and LOL?

:toast:

[davidpdx]

41. Hello, Judas

This is Jesus calling, where's my endorsement?

[crankychatter]

43. Bill misrepresenting the facts too?

no way

"misrepresentation of fact" = legalese for a LIE.

[BeyondGeography]

45. The Clintons have used Bill Richardson as their personal fire hydrant

because there are no more states with significant Mexican populations to vote. That's the way these scumbags operate.

[dsc]

47. actually Clinton never said Richardson promised TO ENDORSE Hillary

he said Richardson promised NOT TO ENDORSE Obama. Those are two different things. I notice the absence of Richardson denying that.

[pompano]

61. Doesn't that sound just

...a tad strange. If Hillary is not going to get the Richardson endorsement wouldn't a normal person not give a shit who else gets it? It's like, If Hillary can't have it from you then don't give it to him either. Isn't this just a little childish? Evidently, and I'm going by what you say, Bill found out Hillary was not going to get the endorsement so he wanted to fcuc it up for Obama?

She might do a little better if she went out and actually earned the delegates instead of using playground childish games to corner them.

Not to mention the gall it takes to ask someone NOT to endorse another candidate is staggering. Asking for an endorsement is fine, no shame in being told no. Thats where the conversation should have ended.

A strong candidate doesn't need someone to minimize and manipulate the damage by underhanded tactics. Let Hillary earn hers and Obama earn his without Bill in sabotage mode.

If this is what actually was said/happened?

[dsc]

63. actually my presumption is

that while Clinton was discussing the endorsement with Richardson at some point he volunteered he wouldn't endorse Obama. But actually, it is perfectly reasonable to try to A get an endorsement and failing that B to get the person not to endorse at all. Obama's campaign tried exactly that with Dallas' Stonewall Dems who stayed with endorsing Hillary.

[pompano]

79. I understand ,but

for the sake of argument lets forget about Obama for a minute.

Let me try it this way. If I went to my friends house and asked to borrow his fishing pole? He had his reasons and said no. Do I go back and say "well you better not loan it to so and so then". What Richardson volunteered or implied should make no difference. I didn't get the pole, why am I obsessed with who does or did? Even if he volunteered, no you can't borrow the pole but I loaned it to so and so last week and he caught alot of fish, still makes no difference. I asked, I was told no, now I need to shut up. I don't have a right to ask that man not to loan it out at all. It's his pole he can loan it to whom he chooses without checking it out with me. What he chooses to volunteer does not make my obsession legit.

Now lets bring back Obama. When you take an otherwise good point and throw out the ol' standard "He did it to" it completly dilutes your point. "Obama did it to" did what? :shrug: You just said Clinton was above board.

[dsc]

91. asked a group to not endorse Clinton after they refused to endorse him

Endorsements aren't fishing poles. And Richardson would be a virtual nobody but for Bill Clinton. Clinton's major problem with him, which I think is wholly legit, is that Richardson could have at least being honest about what he would do. He apparently wasn't.

[pompano]

93. Then tell...

Richardson to endorse "Bill' Clinton? If Bill Clinton made Richardson why does Richardson owe Hillary anything? Remember this whole thread was about Bill turning purple and screaming at other people because Hillary didn't get something that may or may not be owed to someone that isn't her to begin with? Thats another point.

Men with the talent of Bill Richardson make it whether the Clintons are involved or not.

BTW, before I get called a Clinton basher. I voted for Bill Clinton twice and I voted for Al Gore once, and voted a straight Democratic ticket the many years before them. I voted for one Republican in my life and that was a local County Commission seat and have regretted it ever since.

In the Florida panhandle there are very few Democrats, I have been spit on and had doors slammed in my face trying to drum up votes for Bill Clinton/Gore. Believe it or not, if this race was between Bill and Barak it would even now be a tough decision.

With Hillary, not so sure.

What she will allow to be sacraficed for the benefit of herself is a hard pill to swallow for me.

[dsc]

94. he owed them honesty

Apparently he was totally dishonest. And while I probably was a bit extreme in saying he would have been nothing, the fact is Richardson does owe a great deal to Bill Clinton. Endorsing Obama is one thing. Lying to Clinton's face before doing so was quite another. His personalization of the endorsement was yet another. Clinton deserved better, so did we.

[pompano]

96. fair enough/i disagree but respect you opinion n/t.

[dsc]

98. that is all I can ask.

[Nine]

115. I noticed the same thing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5356868#5361818

[mrJJ]

55. I Believe

"I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again," he said with a clenched jaw and stern expression that day. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time, never. These allegations are false."

A Clinton Family Trait

Nafta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BrPZYbCdJ4

Bosnia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It6JN7ALF7Y

Ireland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBCmKkLdCuA

October 11, 2007
Flashback: Does Michigan Matter to Clinton?

Hillary Clinton, during which she was asked about the Michigan primary:

"I personally did not think it made any difference, whether or not my name was on the ballot. You know, it's clear, in this election they're having, it is not going to count for anything."

http://www.youtube.com/user/MDRUDGE

another prediction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saBU6ux0hsQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_eBIpEuO4U

[saltpoint]

58. We may never know what this one said to that one or exactly how many

times, etc.

But we do know that in politics lately, the party that earns the respect of Hispanic voters is going to do better than the party that does not.

Richardson is a vital ally in that landscape and his endorsement matters.

Obama won the endorsement. I agree with Richardson that "The Clintons should get over this."

[madrchsod]

59. delete

[JayFredMuggs]

60. I have to Laugh at the Clintonista's reaction on this thread

Every time another person endorses Barack Obama, the Clintonista's trash him or her.

They are just following what Bill and Hill do.

[Neshanic]

65. Right. Richardson by his association with Obama now is pure.

Richardson is a liar. That what politicians do. They lie. They all lie. In this case, the lie is coming from Richardson, not Bill.

[NDambi]

70. The "death" of the Clintons entitlemen to the WH can't come soon enough..

[Neshanic]

71. The selective memory of a presidency of peace and prosperity ignored by classless

Obamaists that have their own agenda and "entitlement" will soon come to an end with a suprise President McCain.

[NDambi]

73. Say what you will..but thank God Bill and Hillary aren't going back to the WH...Hallelujah!!!

You vote for McCain, knock yourself out...

Just Hallelujah Bill and Hilda aren't going back..

HALLELUJAH!!!

[Moochy]

75. Amen!

Good riddance to Neolibs.

[Neshanic]

78. Well Obama is not going to grace the doorway of the WH either. Unless he's invited to lunch by

McCain.

[NDambi]

90. We only know a few things for sure at this point.

Hilda won't get the nod.
Hilda can't out raise Obama.
Hilda can't out gain him in pledged delegates.
Hilda can't out gain him in states won.
Hilda won't catch him in the popular vote.
Hilda is in debt.
Hilda hasn't been paying her bills.
Hilda has a net negative in SD since Super Tuesday.
Hilda seems to be losing her giant lead in PA.
Hilda can't stop the defection of SDs like Corzine.
Hilda can't stop the endorsement of SDs like Richardson.
Hilda blew 140 mil on donuts, helicopter rides and hotel rooms
Hilda lied about being under sniper fire.
Hilda won't go on the College tour or Larry King live.
Hilda is sucking up to Murdoch, Sciafe and Faux News.
Hilda won't get what she wants in Florida and Michigan.
Hilda actually lost Texas.
Hilda won't be saved by the Big Dog..he's been chained.

Okay..bottom line..

Hilda is done. Finished. Caput. Over.

She can stay in until June but she's FINITO!

HALLELUJAH! Praises to the Sun God, Moon Beam and any other entity.. Hilda and Billy Boy won't be going back to the White House...unless it is for lunch and a bowling game (oops I meant BBall game)...lol

[NDambi]

80. Hallelujah!!!

[BornBlue]

105. BILL IS NOT RUNNING AGAIN!!!

His wife Hillary is. Talk about selective.

[zulchzulu]

74. Who do I trust: Bill Richardson or Bill Clinton?

Like there is a choice....

:rofl:

[sfam]

81. Clinton wouldn't lie to us, would he?

He's never done it before, has he?


I mean he hasn't lied to us about something else today yet, has he?


...well, OK, maybe he has already lied today about something else but we haven't found out about it yet, so its the same thing as not lying, right?

[SeaLyons]

92. Spoken like a true democrat...

:sarcasm:

[sfam]

104. Are you implying that Richardson is not a democrat????

Really I don't get your point here.

[Beacool]

76. READ THIS:

From Mike Allen @ Politico.com:

"THE ARGUMENT — George Stephanopoulos on "World News": "Sources with direct knowledge of the conversation between Sen. Clinton and Gov. Bill Richardson … prior to the governor's endorsement of Obama, say she told him flatly, 'He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win.' "

It gets a Drudge banner and is the cover of the N.Y. Post: " 'Obama can't win' - Hill made brazen claim to sway Barack backer."

***PLAYBOOK EXCLUSIVE - PAUL HARVEY'S THE REST OF THE STORY: It turns out it was Governor Richardson who told the Clintons that he did not think Obama could win when he promised them he would not endorse Obama. According to a source with knowledge of the conversation, the governor said then that Obama was too inexperienced."

[sfam]

84. That source would have had to have heard this from Bill Clinton...as we know...

he NEVER lies...

But this is really a side thought. In a campaign where we have Hillary folks suggesting that even Obama's pledged delegates could switch their votes, how dare she get outraged when one of "her" Supes switches. That Richardson never even publicly stated his support makes it clear that he was never "hers" but still - how dare they get mouth-frothing upset by this!

[Debi]

102. If the Clintons said it - it must be true!

:rofl:

[SeaLyons]

77. Bill Richardson..

the political whore.

[sfam]

82. Does the phrase, "Pot calling the kettle black" mean anything to you? nt

[SeaLyons]

85. No, not in this context...

not at all.

[sfam]

87. What - it only applies to gas stoves, not electric stoves?

Give me a break. The context fits perfectly.

[cooolandrew]

86. You've got nothing to defend Richardson you are a free American nothing more to say than that.

[wiggs]

95. Exactly right. He's getting sucked in to low political discourse by responding

in this way. Both are getting muddied...a goal of the underdog. Pull your opponent down into the muck, confuse voters, make clear statements gray, point fingers...

....After the last 8 years, I just detest this strategy of diminishing those who disagree without regard to truth, respect, quality of discourse. It didn't used to be this way. In the end, all of us spectators in the US and the world just have a lower opinion of the system and the players...all of them. They are ruining the institution for selfish gain.

More light, less dark. More elevation, less sinking. More respect, less false disgust. More discourse, less name calling. More gains by inspiration, less gains by disappointment. More high road, less low road. Doesn't everyone win this way?

[cooolandrew]

88. If Richardson gave this promise why did he have to go 5 times fess up Clinton camp.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

97. Bill: "I was promised an endorsement by that man... Judas Iscariot."

Gee whiz, who am I supposed to believe? Bill Richardson or Bill Clinton?

:eyes:

[Debi]

103. Which one was convicted of perjury?

When you know the answer.....believe the other one ;)

[Debi]

109. It's too late to edit my post - but I want to clarify that Bill Clinton was not convicted of Perjury

He was only disbarred, paid a $25,000 find and admitted to knowingly giving misleading testimony - all in order to avoid criminal prosectution. (Oh, and he was barred from recovering any of his legal fees from the 'ordeal') :crazy:

My apologies for wrongly stating that he had been convicted of perjury - obviously I must've been sleep deprived. :P

[kwenu]

107. Richardson is not a slave. He has free will and the right to express his conscience.

[Scurrilous]

108. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Zachstar]

110. Good words.

The Clinton's need to grow up.

[apocalypsehow]

112. His recounting of events is much more plausible than that of the Clinton's, IMHO.

n/t.

[Cha]

113. Who knew Guv Richardson had decided not to

endorse hilary by Superbowl time?! Some were concerned he would be doing just that 'cause they'd watched together.